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Old Posted Mar 1, 2022, 11:32 PM
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I might have missed it but did Russia close its airspace for Canada or does Air Canada just choose not to fly through there?
Yesterday Russia closed airspace for 36 countries including Canada.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospa...t-bans-airlines-36-countries-2022-02-28/



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So now that India requires a stop on AC due to Russian airspace being off limits will that cause some of the European route start to become more popular Again?
AC is still running it as a direct flight, I doubt there will be many people opting to book connecting flights, so far the reroute and stop in Dublin is only adding 6 hours.
The return flight from DEL is still non-stop.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 2, 2022, 3:54 AM
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I might have missed it but did Russia close its airspace for Canada or does Air Canada just choose not to fly through there? Eastern Siberia is nowhere near the warzone, so should still be safe. Back home Finnair is starting to feel the impact of being closed out of Russian airspace very soon as their entire strategy has relied on flying through there. Not looking good for them depending on how long the crisis will continue.
Air Canada changed the route the day before the announcement by Canada, however it was expected Russia would respond in kind.

I don't think there is a good alternative. The US and Canada has issued warning to their citizens to leave Russia while commercial routes are still available.

Last think you want is to make an emergency landing in Russia where your passengers may not be able to easily rebooked. You don't have a way of doing a wire to pay for fuel or any services you need.

Russia is now on par with North Korea and Antarctica. Ok, maybe I am exaggerating, with some work you can people and equipment into Antarctica.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2022, 3:58 PM
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WS seems to be adding daily YVR-YKA on the DH8.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2022, 8:54 PM
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I don't think there is a good alternative.
Well, there is one. Air India, which is still overflying Russia. The reason being, India is trying to remain neutral in the whole Ukraine/Russia conflict, for various political/economical reasons. Russia supplies a lot of military hardware to India. But I digress.

More on point, here are tomorrow's block times from YVR to DEL (non stop or 1 stop connections/fuel stops):

AI non stop: 15h15

AC 1 stop for fuel via DUB: 19h25

AC 1 stop via YYZ: 21h00 (found an option for 20h00 as well, but later in the week)

LH 1 stop via FRA: 22h20

So the only real alternative for a faster flight to DEL is Air India. It's only a 3x weekly service though.

Since I'm here, noticed no one posted YVR's 2021 full year numbers. Here you go....

Total: 7,086,602 -3.0%

Domestic: 5,160,742 +21.7%
International: 994,627 -42%
Transborder: 931,233 -31.2%

Intl+transboder: 1,925,860 -37.1%

https://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/facts-sheets/2021/december/december-traffic-update.pdf
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2022, 11:42 PM
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It looks like Singapore Airlines will split the SIN-YVR-SEA into two separate routes this June.

SIN-YVR will become SQ48/47 and operate 3x weekly on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday.

The arrival and departure times will also change from what it currently is.

SQ48 will depart SIN at 07:00 and will arrive at YVR at 06:45.
SQ47 will depart YVR at 08:35 and arrive at SIN at 15:45 the following day.

Flights to SEA will continue to use SQ28/27 and will also operate at 3x weekly on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

https://mainlymiles.com/2022/03/11/singapore-airlines-reinstating-non-stop-seattle-flights/
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2022, 3:21 PM
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Glad to see SQ still sticking around, even though it's obviuously kind of trial and error with the schedule and routing, but that is to be expected. I really hope it sticks around once the dust has fully settled around COVID and related restrictions.

From what I see, WS to YKA will be WS Link using Saab aircraft, the DH8 are on Encore. Funny to think WS now has 4 airlines under the parent company, even more than AC, who it went out of it's way to be different than lol..

UA also updated their summer sched, let's hope we're near the end of schedule changes.. Back to a very healthy schedule. They will running a fully mainline operation, which is quite the vote of confidence. SFO 5x daily, LAX 1x daily, DEN 3x daily, IAH 2x daily, ORD 2x daily, EWR 1x daily. Schedule appears to be the same every day (sometimes in the past with cruise ship traffic, Sundays would get more flights than other days, but that doesn't appear to be the case anymore). IAD didn't come back but that is to be expected, it was the most iffy of all their routes. Still, having mainline service to 6/7 of their domestic hubs is more than decent. If IAD comes back, that will be a clean-sweep of their hubs with non-stop mainline service. I believe YVR is the 3rd or 4th busiest internatiinal mainline destination for UA (after LHR and CUN) this summer, measured by flights per day. I think it waffles with Mexico City for 3rd/4th. Obviously LHR has widebody metal so it is way out ahead in terms of seats and daily frequency, and CUN is a major leisure destination especially from their hub at IAH. But YVR and MEX are neck and neck, definitely in top 5.

Also appears DL has upgauged the 1x daily SLC service to mainline. Still DL has a long way to go to recovery, since they used to have multiple dailies to SLC and MSP (both now daily only) and service to ATL at least once per week (not anymore). However compared to the pre-2015 period, DL is still up bwcause we have so much service to SEA, which didn't exist before DL turned it into a hub. So it's understandable to a degree that they have cut back on other destinations non-stop, since it's clear they are making SEA the onward connection hub.

Not sure if this was mentioned before, but AA upgauaged their daily LAX service to mainline as well. So LAX is 100% mainline flights (Air Canada, American, United, and Westjet). And with the 2x daily DFW service and 1x daily ORD service, AA is 4x daily all mainline ex-YVR. It's interesting how quickly AA dropped PHX, considering that route was a fixture for years first as America West, then US Airways, then American. AC wasn't even on the route until a couple years ago, and it always seemed like a bit of an afterthought to them, so it's interesting that they are now the only year-round carrier on the route. I always thought it was a key route for AA from Canada to PHX. They also dropped YYC, again, another route with a long history. I am guessing PHX was more an O&D desintation rather than connections, so AA was ready to hand it to AC and WS (in winter), and keep flights to LAX, ORD, and DFW. Probably the right strategy.

Sorry for the long post, but wanted to summarize the updates I saw. Althought by no means where it was in 2019, there are positive signs and route resumptions/new routes that suggest airlines are confident in the market here (esp transborder without the cruise ship traffic they normally have, I was unsure if they would retun with a hefty schedule, but it appears at least UA has)
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2022, 5:34 PM
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Glad to see SQ still sticking around, even though it's obviuously kind of trial and error with the schedule and routing, but that is to be expected. I really hope it sticks around once the dust has fully settled around COVID and related restrictions.

From what I see, WS to YKA will be WS Link using Saab aircraft, the DH8 are on Encore. Funny to think WS now has 4 airlines under the parent company, even more than AC, who it went out of it's way to be different than lol..

UA also updated their summer sched, let's hope we're near the end of schedule changes.. Back to a very healthy schedule. They will running a fully mainline operation, which is quite the vote of confidence. SFO 5x daily, LAX 1x daily, DEN 3x daily, IAH 2x daily, ORD 2x daily, EWR 1x daily. Schedule appears to be the same every day (sometimes in the past with cruise ship traffic, Sundays would get more flights than other days, but that doesn't appear to be the case anymore). IAD didn't come back but that is to be expected, it was the most iffy of all their routes. Still, having mainline service to 6/7 of their domestic hubs is more than decent. If IAD comes back, that will be a clean-sweep of their hubs with non-stop mainline service. I believe YVR is the 3rd or 4th busiest internatiinal mainline destination for UA (after LHR and CUN) this summer, measured by flights per day. I think it waffles with Mexico City for 3rd/4th. Obviously LHR has widebody metal so it is way out ahead in terms of seats and daily frequency, and CUN is a major leisure destination especially from their hub at IAH. But YVR and MEX are neck and neck, definitely in top 5.

Also appears DL has upgauged the 1x daily SLC service to mainline. Still DL has a long way to go to recovery, since they used to have multiple dailies to SLC and MSP (both now daily only) and service to ATL at least once per week (not anymore). However compared to the pre-2015 period, DL is still up bwcause we have so much service to SEA, which didn't exist before DL turned it into a hub. So it's understandable to a degree that they have cut back on other destinations non-stop, since it's clear they are making SEA the onward connection hub.

Not sure if this was mentioned before, but AA upgauaged their daily LAX service to mainline as well. So LAX is 100% mainline flights (Air Canada, American, United, and Westjet). And with the 2x daily DFW service and 1x daily ORD service, AA is 4x daily all mainline ex-YVR. It's interesting how quickly AA dropped PHX, considering that route was a fixture for years first as America West, then US Airways, then American. AC wasn't even on the route until a couple years ago, and it always seemed like a bit of an afterthought to them, so it's interesting that they are now the only year-round carrier on the route. I always thought it was a key route for AA from Canada to PHX. They also dropped YYC, again, another route with a long history. I am guessing PHX was more an O&D desintation rather than connections, so AA was ready to hand it to AC and WS (in winter), and keep flights to LAX, ORD, and DFW. Probably the right strategy.

Sorry for the long post, but wanted to summarize the updates I saw. Althought by no means where it was in 2019, there are positive signs and route resumptions/new routes that suggest airlines are confident in the market here (esp transborder without the cruise ship traffic they normally have, I was unsure if they would retun with a hefty schedule, but it appears at least UA has)
Interesting stuff. Looks like WS is building Link out of YVR before moving east. I wonder if YYC/YVR-GEG ends up happening.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2022, 6:09 PM
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My wish is that Castlegar's airport YCG builds a customs hall and adds flights to GEG. Fed by the already existing daily AC flights from Vancouver and Calgary.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2022, 7:41 PM
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My wish is that Castlegar's airport YCG builds a customs hall and adds flights to GEG. Fed by the already existing daily AC flights from Vancouver and Calgary.
If they take out a mountain or two at the same times as building the customs hall that will help with the approach.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2022, 7:53 PM
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Luckily we have a valley to the south and the pilots can follow the Columbia River to Spokane. And in less than half an hour you're there.
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My wish is that Castlegar's airport YCG builds a customs hall and adds flights to GEG. Fed by the already existing daily AC flights from Vancouver and Calgary.
Maybe YCG will become a mini-hub for flights to Montana and the Pacific Northwest one day, lol.

Side note I'm a little surprised WS hasn't yet started flights to YCG (from either YYC or YVR).
     
     
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Haha ya! Now with service to Whitefish Sandpoint and Bend.

Westjet Link to Kelowna at least. Lots of vehicle traffic between us and them.
Then we could connect into Westjet's flights from Ktown as well.
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Seems like Flair update summer schedule once again again and again.

From YVR,
YEG 17x 22x weekly
YYC 18x weekly
YYZ 10x 12x weekly
YUL 7x 11x weekly
YKF 10x 9x weekly

For less frequent flights:
5x weekly YOW
4x weekly LAS
3x weekly SFO, BUR, YLW, YWG
2x weekly ANC, YXE, YXS, YQU

No longer in schedule: YMM, YQR, YXS

3 4 planes based in YVR, with one of them pretty much only doing YYC and YEG work. One plane will have pretty much no flight scheduled on Saturday.

YEG base will operate some flights from the following routes:
YVR-YEG (11x 4 of 22x weekly)
YVR-YYC (4 of 18x weekly)

YYZ base will operate some flights from the following routes:
YVR-YYZ (11 of 12x weekly)

YKF base will operate some flights from the following routes:
YVR-YKF (6 of 9x weekly)


The following routes are not operating out of YVR base:
YVR-YYZ
YVR-YKF

YVR-YOW

Everything else run out of YVR base.

YVR base will also operate the following routes:
YYC-YQQ
YYC-YYJ
YLW-YYJ

Note: YVR-YYC is currently scheduled for 20x weekly, but 2 of the weekly flight can't fit in the plane schedule - the 3 YVR planes are either enroute to YUL, or departing for YEG and YXS, and no other base's plane is in YVR at the moment. So I'll leave it out for now (maybe the YXS route is being cancelled...)
So both the YXS and YYC flights are not running. The plane is now assigned to handle some of the YKF flights.
Updated. I can barely keep up...

The 4 YVR planes will depart in the morning for:
1. YEG (daily)
2. YYC (daily)
3. YLW (135), LAS (2467)
4. YKF (135), SFO (247), YYZ (6)

The extra plane are basically used for the extra YUL/YYZ flights, as well as taking over some YEG and YKF flights from other base. Also, many slacks are added to the schedule. There are now numerous 2-3 hr turnaround time at YVR, as opposed to the 45-50min turnaround F8 usually use for the schedule. Maybe this will help on their OTP a bit...

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Updated. I can barely keep up...

The 4 YVR planes will depart in the morning for:
1. YEG (daily)
2. YYC (daily)
3. YLW (135), LAS (2467)
4. YKF (135), SFO (247), YYZ (6)

The extra plane are basically used for the extra YUL/YYZ flights, as well as taking over some YEG and YKF flights from other base. Also, many slacks are added to the schedule. There are now numerous 2-3 hr turnaround time at YVR, as opposed to the 45-50min turnaround F8 usually use for the schedule. Maybe this will help on their OTP a bit...
Flair can make as much changes to it they want, but their OTP is still quite bad like Swoop Airlines in Canada.

My family & I won’t use Flair or Swoop when travelling, as we need to be On Time for our connecting flights ✈️from Domestic to Internationally or the US destinations.

We will continue to fly with WestJet or Air Canada as they’re OTP is better✅!!
     
     
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Got notice of a seat change on a flight NRT in June. Looks like Air Canada down-gauged AC3/4 from 787-9 to their smaller 787-8 on the YVR-NRT run.

Makes sense as we really don't know when Japan will open back up.
     
     
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Got notice of a seat change on a flight NRT in June. Looks like Air Canada down-gauged AC3/4 from 787-9 to their smaller 787-8 on the YVR-NRT run.

Makes sense as we really don't know when Japan will open back up.
5x weekly 789, 2x weekly 788. Probably need to rotate with YYZ and YUL flights, which are both planned to use 788.

The other 5 days the 788 will be used for ZRH route (replacing 789)

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Old Posted Mar 16, 2022, 10:16 PM
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Air Canada announced flight resumptions to Brisbane and Auckland today.

Brisbane
First flight departs YVR on July 1st and the return flight is on July 3rd

AC35 departs YVR at 22:55 and arrives at BNE at 06:35 (+2 days)
Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun
AC36 departs BNE at 10:15 and arrives at 06:50
Tue/Wed/Fri/Sun

Operates 4x weekly with the Boeing 787-9

Auckland
First flight departs YVR on Nov 10th and the return flight is on Nov 12th

AC39 departs YVR at 22:45 and arrives at AKL 10:05 (+2 days)
Tue/Thu/Sat
AC40 departs AKL at 14:30 and arrives at YVR 06:30
Mon/Thu/Sat

Operates 3x weekly with the Boeing 787-9

Sydney
Will start flying daily with the 77L from May 1st

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/air-canada-flights-sydney-brisbane-auckland-to-vancouver
     
     
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^ excellent news.

YVR long haul international recovery continues.

Hopefully a MEL link will happen again in the not too distant future.
     
     
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Seattle Non-Stop: Singapore Airlines Ditches Its Vancouver Stop

Singapore Airlines is reintroducing non-stop flights to/from Seattle, delinking it from Vancouver and saving two+ hours each way.

BY JAMES PEARSON
PUBLISHED 2 DAYS AGO


Singapore Airlines' Seattle non-stops take off in June. It'll be the first time in 27 months that the carrier has served the Washington State airport non-stop

It comes after Singapore Airlines added Singapore-Vancouver-Seattle-Vancouver-Singapore in December 2021, which will end on May 31st. Vancouver will continue to be served non-stop, which means the two non-stop routes will have 6x weekly flights in total, up from the current 4x weekly.

While overall demand to Singapore remains below capacity, the recovery of Singapore Airlines is notable. Helped by a government keen to reopen its borders, it is leading the way in the Far East, including resuming a large chunk of its international network. It is in stark contrast to other Far East carriers, especially Cathay Pacific.

...

https://simpleflying.com/singapore-airlines-seattle-non-stop-drops-vancouver-stop/
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^ that was already reported a few posts ago
     
     
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