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Old Posted Mar 15, 2022, 2:13 AM
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Saw on the Construct.LA instagram that a crane is now coming to the Arts District's first proper tower

Massive step forward for that part of Downtown and cannot wait to see it rise.

https://urbanize.city/la/post/life-signs-stalled-arts-district-tower

Fantastic news. Big time for the arts district
     
     
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Was in the area. Can confirm that the base of the crane has already been installed. I have a feeling this one is going to rise pretty quick.

Hopefully Onni starts their DTLA projects soon, including the one in the arts district. Their tower in Long Beach topped out last month and the exterior seems to be 95% complete.
That’s awesome. I love how DT is spreading out.
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Condo nimbys appealed the small hotel at 11th & hope filling the mini empty lot.

https://urbanize.city/la/post/homeowners-appeal-neighboring-dtla-hotel-development



Literally just mad that they bought a condo next to an empty lot and somebody actually decided to build something that blocks their view. It's a shame it's so easy for people to waste tax money on frivolous appeals like this.
This is a shot I took of where the ugly hotel will sit.
     
     
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100%. Just in downtown there's a solid list, then a bunch scattered amongst mid-city/Hollywood area

Cara Cara, 11th & Broadway (Proper Hotel)
Cabra, 11th & Broadway (Hoxton Hotel)
Upstairs at the Ace Hotel, Olympic & Broadway
Broken Shaker, 8th & Olive (Freehand Hotel)
The Rooftop at The Wayfarer Hotel, 8th & Flower
Spire 73, Wilshire & Fig (Wilshire Grand Center)
Perch, 5th & Hill
LA Cha Cha Cha, 3rd & Traction (in arts district)

If we're lucky we'll someday get someone to open up something at where The Standard hotel was. Nomad Hotel on 7th is also technically still on their website so there's a chance...
The rooftop bar at The Standard (550 S Flower Street) is probably the most famous and well known one. More and more are popping up though.

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Wait it is gone? Just saw it. That one was probably my favorite one especially during day time.
Who will take over? André Balazs should have never sold the brand. I thought they would finish the renovation. Let’s hope that new new owner gets it done.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2022, 9:36 PM
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The rooftop bar at The Standard (550 S Flower Street) is probably the most famous and well known one. More and more are popping up though.

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Wait it is gone? Just saw it. That one was probably my favorite one especially during day time.
Who will take over? André Balazs should have never sold the brand. I thought they would finish the renovation. Let’s hope that new new owner gets it done.
There is movement on a new ownership taking over the West Hollywood lease of the Standard there. Let's hope we hear the same soon for Downtown.

While I really love what the Downtown Rooftop bar scene has become and love all the new additions, I'll always have a soft spot for the Standard.

The pool parties, water beds and dj nights can't be beat.
     
     
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Both Standard hotels closed because of COVID and never reopened, so it wasn't necessarily that the two properties have bad fundamentals and cannot make money going forward. Occupancy rates are pretty high in LA relative to other cities, and once the hotel market gets back to (whatever will approximate) normal, I suspect both of those properties will reopen as different brands.
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There is movement on a new ownership taking over the West Hollywood lease of the Standard there. Let's hope we hear the same soon for Downtown.

While I really love what the Downtown Rooftop bar scene has become and love all the new additions, I'll always have a soft spot for the Standard.

The pool parties, water beds and dj nights can't be beat.
I agree.

Let’s look at the Spire 73 for example.. You have to have a reservation and there is a 60 Dollar Minimum per person plus an automatic 18 Dollar gratitude added. That wasn’t the case when they opened.

.. but like you mentioned.. I will miss the water beds, the pool, the vibe. I hope the new owner keeps all that and doesn’t change it into another Spire 73.
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A new downtown L.A. hotel’s is going all in on amenities. Guess where they put the pool



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March 15, 2022

Hotels with indoor pools have been around for decades. But at the plush new Downtown L.A. Proper Hotel, there’s a 2,777-square-foot suite with its own indoor swimming pool, and it’s much bigger than the one on the roof shared by all guests.

Another suite has a enough room and height to play basketball — because it used to be a basketball court, back when the Renaissance Revival-style tower on Broadway was a private club for the city’s business elite that included athletic facilities, fine dining and rooms for overnight stays.


The Proper Hotel, seen from Broadway in downtown Los Angeles, recently opened in the face of hotel industry struggles.(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)

The building, completed in 1926 as the Commercial Club, has regained those elements after changing a lot over the years, usually not for the better. Now it’s owned by a Santa Monica company that specializes in large-scale makeovers of historic properties to create uncommon inns for travelers weary or wary of upmarket chain hotels.

“We call it a looser kind of luxury,” said Brian De Lowe, president of Proper Hospitality. “It’s our unique take” on deluxe urban hotels.

The company is calculating that the reviving South Broadway neighborhood where the Downtown L.A. Proper Hotel stands will keep improving. The location at Broadway and 11th Street is six blocks east of Crypto.com Arena and L.A. Live, on the edge of the Fashion District, South Park and the Historic Core.

Neighbors include the upscale Ace and Hoxton hotels, both created from brick-clad 1920s office towers. Across Broadway is the recently renovated Herald-Examiner building, completed in 1914 by newspaper titan William Randolph Hearst and now a branch of Arizona State University.

Proper Hospitality also is counting on a rebound of business and leisure travel from a pandemic plunge that decimated the ranks of hotels and restaurants.

Founded in 2015, the hospitality management company operates Proper hotels in Austin, Texas; San Francisco; and Santa Monica, where the 271-room inn includes a renovated 1920s office building linked by a bridge to a new seven-story addition. Proper Hospitality also manages six other hotels in Southern California, including Hotel June in Malibu, Venice V Hotel in Venice and Avalon Hotel & Bungalows Palm Springs.

It took about a decade to plan and build the Santa Monica hostelry, and the 148-room Downtown L.A. Proper Hotel was also several years in the making before opening in the fall amid a suffering hotel market.

The Commercial Club folded in the Great Depression. In 1941 the building was converted to a hotel, and that use continued until the YWCA Job Training Corps set up operations there in 1965. The YWCA moved to a new property several blocks away in early 2012, and the building stood vacant until the Proper arrived.

Remaking the 13-story building with a design by architect Omgivning cost more than $50 million as the owners labored to bring panache back to the once-glamorous structure.


A view of the lobby at the Downtown L.A. Proper Hotel on Feb. 22.(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)

“Considering its massive scale, the Proper was a creative, space programming challenge that utilized every last square inch of the building,” said Morgan Sykes Jaybush, Omgivning’s director of hospitality projects.

The arbiter of Proper style is celebrity interior designer Kelly Wearstler, who was part of the rise of one-of-a-kind “design” hotels in the early 2000s such as the Viceroy Santa Monica. There, she joined her husband, developer Brad Korzen, and De Lowe as they turned a dog-eared 1960s inn near the beach into an upscale destination. Korzen and De Lowe went on to found Proper Hospitality, the hotel management company for their real estate firm Kor Group.

At the Proper, Wearstler didn’t hold back on the variety of textures, patterns and materials she is known for, layering in elements of Spanish, Portuguese, Mexican and Moroccan design. She brought in vintage furniture and rugs, which help make each room different. There are more than 100 kinds of hand-painted and custom tiles affixed throughout the property.

In the 1,300-square-foot Basketball Suite, which retains its original wooden flooring, Wearstler opted to keep the double-height ceiling and painted color blocks on the wall to provide a more intimate sense of scale. A night there tips off at $5,000.

(Sorry, b-ball fans: No hoop. It’s one thing to evoke basketball; it’s another thing altogether to enable a board-pounding game that might disturb other guests.)

The seventh-floor Pool Suite provided the biggest challenge. The indoor “plunge,” as it was called in the 1920s, was 35 feet long and 12 feet deep, a proper companion to the club’s gymnasium and Turkish baths.

“It might have been easier to get rid of the pool entirely,” Wearstler said, “but I was really keen to see how we could make it work within the context of a guest suite.”

The pool level was reduced to nearly 4 feet to conform with modern safety standards. In addition to creating a suite with as many as two bedrooms and two-and-a-half bathrooms (the suite is expandable to the full 2,777 square feet, bigger than the average new single-family home), she brought in L.A. ceramicist Ben Medansky to create a monumental mural to anchor it.

“Now it’s this beautiful, sprawling suite,” she said “the jewel of Downtown L.A. Proper, in my opinion.”

The suite is big and unusual enough to use for hosting meetings such as fashion events, hotel General Manager Stephane Lacroix said. But it won’t come cheap to rent at $10,000 a night. More typical hotel rooms start at about $300.

The Proper has two restaurants. Caldo Verde, with Portuguese and Spanish influences, is operated on the ground floor by James Beard Foundation Award winners Caroline Styne and chef Suzanne Goin. The larger restaurant is Cara Cara, serving food and cocktails on the 5,000-square-foot rooftop space where Wearstler created “several little vignettes” to create intimacy among potted plants, trees and succulents.

She tried to keep the furnishings low-profile, she said, to let city views command the most attention.

Rooftop restaurants and bars that look out on city lights can be reliable revenue generators for hotels because they attract locals, reducing dependency on travel patterns, Newport Beach hotel investment banker Donald W. Wise of Turnbull Capital Group said.

Rooms won’t always have guests, he said. “It’s important to embrace the local community so you have a continuing source of patrons.”

Wise, who is not involved with the hotel, described the downtown Proper as “a long-term play” for the owners because they have a substantial investment to recoup and may need to be patient.

“It’s going to take time for the word to get out, to get a base of customers that returns on a regular basis,” he said.

The high end of the hospitality market “fared pretty well during the black swan event” of the pandemic and is on the mend, especially among coastal and destination resort hotels, he said. City center hotels that counted on business and convention travelers have had a harder go of it.

The NoMad Los Angeles, a high-end boutique hotel in the heart of downtown, closed during the pandemic and remains shuttered even as other businesses, including popular large restaurant Bottega Louie, have reopened.

Paradigm shifts that aren’t fully clear yet have occurred during the pandemic, Wise said, including the way companies will view the necessity for business travel after growing comfortable with meetings on teleconferencing services such as Zoom. Business travel may not return to more than 70% to 80% of pre-pandemic levels when that threat tapers off.


A view of the rooftop at the Downtown L.A. Proper Hotel.(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)

“The new normal may not be the old normal,” he said, but it will take a few years to find out.

Hotel developers are nevertheless forging ahead with several projects downtown, said Nick Griffin, executive director of the Downtown Center Business Improvement District.

Set to open this year are the Conrad hotel at the $1-billion Grand complex on Bunker Hill, the Cambria Hotel in a renovated 1920s building on Spring Street near City Hall and the 37-story, double-branded Moxie and AC hotel complex with more than 700 rooms by the Convention Center.

An additional 16 hotels are in planning states downtown, including an expansion of the JW Marriott at L.A. Live and a 1,000-room skyscraper across Figueroa Street from the Convention Center, according the Downtown Center Business Improvement District.

The Proper is the latest arrival in the South Broadway area, which was relatively forgotten 15 years ago when downtown was experiencing a renaissance that brought in thousands of new residents, along with restaurants, bars, hotels and offices converted from old industrial buildings.


A view of the rooftop at the Downtown L.A. Proper Hotel.(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)

Economic growth swept into the Proper’s neighborhood in recent years, including the hotels, Herald Examiner Building revival and new stores such as a high-profile Apple store in a renovated movie palace. The nearby California Market Center, a city block-sized office complex that recently underwent a $250-million makeover, has signed large office leases with apparel companies Adidas and Forever 21.

“All of those factors combine to create a dynamic ecosystem,” Griffin said. “We’re seeing that really take hold on South Broadway.”

Downtown has the most dense collection of office buildings in the region, most of which are still sparsely occupied because of the pandemic. Full economic recovery there may depend on what percentage of workers returns to their offices on a regular basis as COVID fears subside.

The average office population in the Los Angeles metro area was 37% at the beginning of March, up from 26.5% as the year began when the Omicron variant was surging, according to Kastle Systems, which provides key-card entry systems used by many companies and tracks patterns of workers’ card swipes.

Business at hotels that Proper manages has also fluctuated with the pandemic, De Lowe said, with dips in revenue in late December and January followed by a more than 30% jump in February.

Average occupancy in Los Angeles area hotels was 67% in the week that ended March 5, up substantially from early last year when occupancy was 40%, according to STR, a global hospitality data and analytics company. Average daily room rates rose from $116 to $184 in the same period.

“We’re feeling super bullish about the spring and the summer,” De Lowe said. “People have been cooped up for so long. Now they want to explore and experience new things, and I think downtown L.A. really offers that.”
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Colburn Expansion Update

Big news on the Colburn expansion! Much further along than I was expecting. I don't know how to post the full LA Times article, but I'll link it here for whoever does.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-ar...rys-new-colburn-concert-hall-los-angeles

A massive $270 million of the $350 million goal has already been raised. Impressive stuff from the Los Angeles philanthropic community.

New renders / design by Gehry that don't have quite the "wow" as the previous ones, but still show this to be a very classy design that will be quite the asset for the Downtown community.





     
     
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Wow, brutal. From dazzling to disaster....

     
     
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^What was the original proposal then? First I've seen this and it looks handsome to me.
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Ah yes that is a considerable downgrade. Rip. I still think it looks nice, but that is quite the drop off.
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This is a joke right? The new building looks like a suburban office park.
     
     
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Bottom block of the LA Times article has some nice DTLA dreams from Gehry
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He may be in his 90s and have already revolutionized Grand Avenue, but Gehry acts as though he’s just begun. As we walk to Disney, Gehry demonstrates how the new Colburn complex will become the connecting hub to Grand Avenue. Inside his already iconic concert hall, he describes his ideas for turning BP Hall, where pre-concert talks are given, into a small chamber music hall, with a suspended balcony. He wants to make the little-used amphitheater in the garden into an enclosed jazz club, but he wonders where to put a bar. Gehry spends a moment walking around and finds a space. He has ideas for the lobby and the dark café at Disney, which he didn’t design but wanted to.

Grand Park is next. The city buildings have to go, he says. They have asbestos and are in bad shape. His vision? Tear them down, build a tower on what will be the last empty lot on 1st Street for the city courts and administration so you can widen the park and put in affordable housing around it.

Years ago, he proposed lowering the Music Center to street level, but no one listened. Do it now, he says, and everything connects. What you get is a full-fledged arts district, with museums and theaters of all sizes (having altogether some 12,000 seats), housing and, thanks to the Grand, stores, restaurants, a hotel and three nearby Metro stops. He is advocating for the Grand to include a market. Between the 1st Street Metro stop and the Colburn, he suggests a strip with donut shops, coffee bars and falafel stands that could be a hangout for music and dance students. He wants life everywhere.

In the end, Gehry sees the Colburn project as impetus for a utopian vision of DTLA. The fact is, arts have no right to thrive at the expense of society, and I ask Gehry whether L.A. can be the kind of city that can invest in a uniquely inclusive arts district — not instead of but along with investing whatever it takes to overcome homelessness and other critical issues. He doesn’t have an answer, just a vision. The challenge and fundamental promise of the new Colburn complex are for us to make it the stepping stone in creating that vision. Think of what that might look like in summer 2028, when the world turns its attention on the L.A. Olympics.
     
     
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^ The proj has been value engineered...but even before covid hit, I think funding for the bldg was still shaky. So I'll take it...not as good as before, but since I thought it had been cancelled, beggars can't be choosers.

filling in the sw corner of 1st & Hill is symbolically important....it's the last part of the bunker hill proj, stated over 50 yrs ago, that will be finally underway!


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…but since I thought it had been cancelled, beggars can't be choosers.
… sorry, in that case I would rather stop begging and wait for something less… I don’t even know how to describe it.

“From dazzling to disaster” summed it up perfectly. I saw many downgrades over the years but that one is pure comedy.
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According to the Los Angeles Times article, Colburn had major financing problems and basically cancelled the project, but a couple of big donor couples were able to resurrect the project with its current iteration (also by Frank Gehry). This is better than nothing and better than what is currently there, and the interior is still pretty nice.
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^ yep, I want to say the glass is half full instead of half empty....although I'm more disappointed now that I realize the proj will cover only the southern half of the block at the sw corner of 1st & Hill....I notice in the images the parking lot along 1st st is still there. Who owns it? The city, county, maybe even the state?

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