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Old Posted Mar 8, 2022, 8:16 PM
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1.3 million sq ft? That building has got to be pretty big then. One Vanderbilt in NYC is like 1.7 million sq ft if I recall correctly so hopefully that means a pretty tall skyscraper.
There is already a thread for it and it's 22 floors and 380 feet.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2022, 8:55 PM
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There is already a thread for it and it's 22 floors and 380 feet.
That was an estimated height based off of a conceptual rendering.

When the final design comes out though, I expect it to fall somewhere between 375 FT and 425 FT tall.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2022, 3:51 PM
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It would be really nice it this tower went to 425' and if it had a crown that made it stand out at night it could bring out the design. If this tower were to stand 425' that would be just short of the Cira Center by a mere dozen feet I guess.

This part of downtown (On maps they include it going up to about 40th street) all the towers are the same height and rarely stand out; the exterior walls may be different but they are almost all the same in height.

This project is intriguing.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 1:47 PM
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Well it looks like that tower is all but a done deal at 38th and chestnut. I guess we should expect demo and construction permits soon. They are moving really quickly on this one. If they can get this started by the end of the summer that will be around 5-6 labs under construction in UCity.
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https://www.inquirer.com/business/sterli...lab-building-life-sciences-20220201.html
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 4:48 PM
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Well it looks like that tower is all but a done deal at 38th and chestnut. I guess we should expect demo and construction permits soon. They are moving really quickly on this one. If they can get this started by the end of the summer that will be around 5-6 labs under construction in UCity.
https://i.redd.it/nbh951kojhm81.jpg
https://www.inquirer.com/business/sterli...lab-building-life-sciences-20220201.html
Love it! Glad this building seems to be moving forward. What's currently there is a severely under-utilized parcel for modern day University City.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 5:52 PM
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Penn Medicine CEO Kevin Mahoney on expansion plans in Montgomery County and Philadelphia

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We set aside $50 million and [spun off] 10 cell and gene therapy companies. In the last three years, they have brought $1.2 billion worth of venture capital money into Philadelphia, and they've created several hundred jobs. We want the city, the commonwealth and others to continue to invest in the infrastructure we need. We're doing our part as a private entity. But if this city really continues to get behind cell and gene therapy, the sky's the limit. And a decade from now, people will be talking about us just like they talk about Kendall Square and Silicon Valley. We are going to continue to build our research campus. I won't steal the new Penn president's thunder, but we have plans to continue to expand with new research buildings both on Market Street and on our main campus.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 7:40 PM
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13-acre Stadium District site eyed for 'grand scale development' put up for sale

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Philadelphia Suburban Development Corp. has put up for sale 700 Packer Ave., a 13-acre parcel in South Philadelphia it had floated as an alternative location for the 76ers when the team was in search of a new arena.

While the basketball team didn’t go to the property, referred to as Stadium Square, it has remained a potential opportunity for a developer to do a bigger project in Philadelphia’s evolving stadium district.

“We see a grand scale development on the site,” said Doug Rodio, a broker with CBRE Inc., who is marketing it for PSDC. “We know it’s going to take time for people get their arms around what can be built there but we think it’s an opportune time to take advantage of the market dynamics in the Stadium District.”

The Stadium District includes Citizens Bank Park, Wells Fargo Center, Lincoln Financial Field, Xfinity Live! and Live! Casino & Hotel. As with other such districts across the country, there’s long been a desire to create more of a mixed-use community around the stadiums that includes residential, hospitality, entertainment and retail.

If rezoned, the property could accommodate upwards of 6.3 million square feet in a mix of uses — office, multifamily, educational, hospitality, retail and a 90,000-square-foot entertainment and conference complex. That said, it’s more likely that development in the range would be 2 million to 2.5 million square feet, according to a marketing brochure from 2019 for the project.

The brochure sought to make a case for Stadium Square, provided detailed renderings of what it would look like, the breakdown of uses and the synergies that would be created by the mixed-use development.

Last spring, PSDC met informally with Cordish Cos., which built the Live! Casino, team owners, local politicians and the planning commission to present the idea of a large mixed-use project, said Mark Nicoletti, co-CEO of PSDC.

“They all agreed it was the long overdue missing piece to achieve the potential of Philadelphia’s sports and entertainment district,” he said.

Investor interest in the property has been “excellent,” Nicoletti said. “I can now say with confidence that one of the top five largest international developers will likely be involved with this project. This is going to be a very big win for the city.”
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 9:33 PM
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Wow this would be great. It looks like they show some buildings Between the Phillies stadium and broad. I wonder if that’s future phases.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2022, 11:12 PM
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I love having all of the sports arenas/stadiums together but hate how lifeless it can feel. If we can make that into a destination area ion general, it would be fantastic
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I would prefer we develop the land at Lot U and Lot T. Close to the BSL and FDR park.
700 packer ave would be best for the Port of Philadelphia if they need more warehousing.
Regardless build something. Would love to take away the massive parking lots. We can build a bunch of garages if there isn't enough parking for the stadiums.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2022, 2:53 PM
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I would prefer we develop the land at Lot U and Lot T. Close to the BSL and FDR park.
700 packer ave would be best for the Port of Philadelphia if they need more warehousing.
Regardless build something. Would love to take away the massive parking lots. We can build a bunch of garages if there isn't enough parking for the stadiums.
As much as I hate surface parking lots, I would guess that they are more efficient traffic-wise in moving large numbers of vehicles in and then out over a very short time span. Multi-story parking garages would introduce more of a bottleneck.
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It is...since there's multiple entries/exits to get on the surrounding roads in a surface lot. Parking structures don't work when everyone wants to leave at the same time after the game.
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Big news, thoughts?... I have some feelings on this one, but will let others chime in first.

City Council voted to restrict redevelopment of West Philly subsidized townhouses

https://www.inquirer.com/real-estate/hou...iladelphia-university-city-20220311.html

"City Council on Thursday passed a bill that would suspend demolition of a subsidized housing complex in University City and drive future development there away from commercial use and toward residential. It’s a case that highlights the fragile position of subsidized housing as property values in the city climb, and federal housing contracts continuously come up for renewal."

"The legislation, sponsored by Councilmember Jamie Gauthier, would restrict to the ground floor future nonresidential uses at the site and a neighboring housing complex with the goal of keeping and adding affordable housing there. The townhouses are within an area where City Council will require certain percentages of below market-rate housing units in new residential developments of 10 or more units. That ordinance takes effect in July."

"Gauthier envisions her legislation as a framework for zoning mixed-use developments in high-density and amenity-rich places “to encourage sustainable residential development” in areas throughout the city, according to the text of the bill."

"If Mayor Jim Kenney signs it, Gauthier’s bill would prevent demolition of any building within the boundaries of Market Street, 39th Street, Ludlow Street, and 40th Street — the block that contains the University City Townhomes — for 12 months, barring any dangerous conditions. Gauthier said the pause is meant to ensure thoughtful planning for the future of the site. A Kenney spokesperson said Thursday that the administration is reviewing the legislation."

"City Council passed the bill, 15-1. Councilmember Allan Domb was the lone dissenting vote, a rare defiance of the tradition known as councilmanic prerogative, in which land-use decisions are led by the member whose district includes the area in question and all other members fall in line."

"Domb said he opposed the bill because it violated the owners’ “property rights” by targeting one plot. This type of legislation could discourage future affordable housing development, he said, because other property owners may be reluctant to enter into 30- or 40-year affordability agreements if they come to believe that Council could punish them for transitioning to market-rate uses when the agreement expires."
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Blatant spot zoning. Gauthier knew the contract was expiring with the land owners. She had plenty of time to either come to an agreement with him, or instead arrange for some new public housing to be constructed elsewhere.

I know it was symbolic, but thank God for Allen Domb. One of the few voices of reason on the Council anymore.
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Think we should keep this discussion contained in the Lowrise thread.
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Think we should keep this discussion contained in the Lowrise thread.
Which one? The University City townhomes? Completely disagree. Redevelopment of this site has major development implications that will likely result in one, if not two highrises built here. That's why I moved it here.
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Cool drawings but come on, this is a pipe dream. Literally. If it's such an amazing opportunity, then why is the current owner selling? Also, these drawings assume upzoning the property and I find it odd that the seller isn't going through the trouble themselves of upzoning the property in order to fetch a higher asking price. Flippers do this all the time in Center City and that the current owner hasn't attempted to upzone this property tells me that they don't have much faith in this concept. On the other hand, it's not super expensive to create these conceptual drawings if it can inflate the price by even a little bit.

I will happily eat 🞵🞵🞵🞵 if I'm wrong because it would be pretty cool to have this level of development around the stadiums.
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