PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread - Page 929

PHLtoNYC · #**18561** Posted **Mar 9, 2022, 4:23 PM**

Thoughts?... I tend to think it will move forward either way.

Court to Decide Fate of Controversial Chestnut Hill Project

https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/e...e-of-controversial-chestnut-hill-project

summersm343 · #**18562** Posted **Mar 9, 2022, 4:23 PM**

Court to Decide Fate of Controversial Chestnut Hill Project

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The property at 10 Bethlehem Pike, just north of Germantown Ave., is currently in the midst of a prolonged disagreement about what the future holds for this trapezoidal lot.

You’re not going to believe this, but things in the area changed once cars joined the fray. In fact, a Sunoco station sat behind this church on this controversial site for at least 60 years, forming a rather unusual pairing. A demolition permit was issued last year, and as you can see below, the existing buildings were cleared away.

Per plans presented to the Chestnut Hill Community Association, Frankel Enterprises is proposing a 33 unit, mixed-use building, with 3,000 sqft of ground floor commercial, 8 car spaces, 12 bike spaces and a green roof. CosciaMoos is taking on design duties, offering a facade of brick and black metal bays on the unusually shaped lot. This project was to proceed by-right and received zoning and building permits in late 2021.

Welp, the neighborhood didn’t exactly respond well to the project, and concerns arose nearly every step of the way. After plans were presented to the neighbors for feedback, a controversy around the zoning categorization popped up. After the zoning permit was issued, the CHCA and others appealed the permit, which was denied by the city late last year. Seemingly undeterred, the group filed a lawsuit in the Court of Common Pleas shortly thereafter, further delaying the by-right project.

Read/view more here:
https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/e...e-of-controversial-chestnut-hill-project

summersm343 · #**18563** Posted **Mar 9, 2022, 4:26 PM**

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Thoughts?...

Court to Decide Fate of Controversial Chestnut Hill Project

https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/e...e-of-controversial-chestnut-hill-project

LOL, just posted this the same time as you. Honestly f**king ridiculous. This is a well thought out plan and a nice looking building. This is on Bethlehem Pike literally right off of a large commercial corridor (Germantown Ave) and in between TWO regional rail stations. What used to be on this site was also god awful next to that beautiful historic church.

I love walking around Chestnut Hill - it's stunningly beautiful - but the neighbors need to chill out. The developer isn't proposing this in the middle of the estates of Seminole Street.... it's an appropriate project for the location.

3rd&Brown · #**18564** Posted **Mar 9, 2022, 7:09 PM**

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LOL, just posted this the same time as you. Honestly f**king ridiculous. This is a well thought out plan and a nice looking building. This is on Bethlehem Pike literally right off of a large commercial corridor (Germantown Ave) and in between TWO regional rail stations. What used to be on this site was also god awful next to that beautiful historic church.

I love walking around Chestnut Hill - it's stunningly beautiful - but the neighbors need to chill out. The developer isn't proposing this in the middle of the estates of Seminole Street.... it's an appropriate project for the location.

Chestnut Hill: Our commercial strip is struggling!

Also Chestnut Hill: No more people!

skyhigh07 · #**18565** Posted **Mar 9, 2022, 7:23 PM**

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Chestnut Hill: Our commercial strip is struggling!

Also Chestnut Hill: No more people!

It’s a beautiful area. Although, the parking lot and defunct gas station/auto shop is an eyesore next to the church. The proposed building is attractive and by no means out of scale. I don’t get what they’re trying to preserve here. Keep people out of their community?

Londonee · #**18566** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 1:56 AM**

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Chestnut Hill: Our commercial strip is struggling!

Also Chestnut Hill: No more people!

So much Nimbyism stems from school catchments. I think all of the greater CC schools - including even Bache - are now at (or on the verge of) waiting lists for Kindergarten classes. I think this now includes Henry way up in CH. It serves no parent who lives in the ‘hood who has a kid vying for a spot to support adding additional residents. Sad but true.

Hopefully, it’s getting better - as Stanton improves, the crush on Greenfield lessens; and as Arthur improves the crush on Stanton lessens; and as Nebinger improves, the crush on Meredith lessens, and so on….

chimpskibot · #**18567** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 3:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by Londonee

So much Nimbyism stems from school catchments. I think all of the greater CC schools - including even Bache - are now at (or on the verge of) waiting lists for Kindergarten classes. I think this now includes Henry way up in CH. It serves no parent who lives in the ‘hood who has a kid vying for a spot to support adding additional residents. Sad but true.

Hopefully, it’s getting better - as Stanton improves, the crush on Greenfield lessens; and as Arthur improves the crush on Stanton lessens; and as Nebinger improves, the crush on Meredith lessens, and so on….

I doubt this is about schools. This development only has 7 2bd and most of them will probably go to roommate types or empty-nesters. the rest are 1bd. The CH/mt.Airy/Germantown Nimbys are no different than Mainline NIMBYs. They oppose housing on the basis of keeping their neighborhoods exclusive.

3rd&Brown · #**18568** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 1:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Londonee

So much Nimbyism stems from school catchments. I think all of the greater CC schools - including even Bache - are now at (or on the verge of) waiting lists for Kindergarten classes. I think this now includes Henry way up in CH. It serves no parent who lives in the ‘hood who has a kid vying for a spot to support adding additional residents. Sad but true.

Hopefully, it’s getting better - as Stanton improves, the crush on Greenfield lessens; and as Arthur improves the crush on Stanton lessens; and as Nebinger improves, the crush on Meredith lessens, and so on….

I mean. I don't know if I believe this. About Center City, for sure.

But people on this board and others have been saying (for years) that Stanton and Arthur were getting better...and they're still terrible by all objective measures.

That being said, other schools which weren't even on the radar like Andrew Jackson, Hackett, have leapt pass other schools which would have logically improved first (like Arthur, Stanton, Kearny, etc).

Anyways...I digress. (Not to mention some of the highest performing elementary schools in the city are in NE Philly).

My guess is that 90% of the residents of CH send their kids to private schools. It's about keeping people out. Henry is a pretty good school no doubt but I was always under the impression that it was mostly educated middle and upper middle class black professionals in other parts of NW Philly (E Mt Airy, W Mt Airy, Cedarbrook, etc) sending their kids there.

chimpskibot · #**18569** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 1:47 PM**

Well it looks like that tower is all but a done deal at 38th and chestnut. I guess we should expect demo and construction permits soon. They are moving really quickly on this one. If they can get this started by the end of the summer that will be around 5-6 labs under construction in UCity.
https://i.redd.it/nbh951kojhm81.jpg
https://www.inquirer.com/business/sterli...lab-building-life-sciences-20220201.html

PHLtoNYC · #**18570** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 3:55 PM**

Need more of this...

Six Philadelphia-area companies named to Forbes list of top startup employers

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...phia-area-companies-named-to-forbes.html

"Philadelphia-based Piano is one of the few startups located outside of California, New York or Boston to crack the top 50, coming in at No. 41. Founded in 2015, Piano has been growing rapidly. It was named one of Deloitte's fastest-growing tech companies, recently acquired social media startup SocialFlow and brought LinkedIn on as an investor as part of an $88 million fundraising round last May."

PHLtoNYC · #**18571** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 3:56 PM**

^ And does anyone know the date a court determines the fate of the Chestnut Hill project?

PHLJD13 · #**18572** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 4:39 PM**

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^ And does anyone know the date a court determines the fate of the Chestnut Hill project?

Oral argument is tentatively scheduled for July 5th (which can always be delayed). The Court may also not immediately issue a ruling. So likely late 2022.

summersm343 · #**18573** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by chimpskibot

Well it looks like that tower is all but a done deal at 38th and chestnut. I guess we should expect demo and construction permits soon. They are moving really quickly on this one. If they can get this started by the end of the summer that will be around 5-6 labs under construction in UCity.
https://i.redd.it/nbh951kojhm81.jpg
https://www.inquirer.com/business/sterli...lab-building-life-sciences-20220201.html

I copied your post into the "Highrise development thread" since we know this will be 13 floors tall.

This thread is for "Lowrise/General Developments".... therefore, anything 11 floors and under.

summersm343 · #**18574** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 4:52 PM**

Permits Issued For Nine-Story Penn Presbyterian Medical Center Parking Garage In University City

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Permits have been issued for the construction of a nine-story parking garage for the Penn Presbyterian Medical Center at 3800 Powelton Avenue in University City, West Philadelphia. Designed and engineered by Pennoni and THA Consulting, the massive structure will span 481,702 square feet and offer parking for 1,483 cars and 129 bicycles, as well as ground-level commercial space. Permits list HSC Builders & Construction as the contractor and a construction cost of $46.4 million.

Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2022/03/penn-pre...t-university-city-west-philadelphia.html

summersm343 · #**18575** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 4:53 PM**

^^While the garage isn't exciting, it does open up this garage at 38th & Filbert for redevelopment:

https://phillyyimby.com/2022/03/penn-pre...t-university-city-west-philadelphia.html

summersm343 · #**18576** Posted **Mar 10, 2022, 4:58 PM**

Permits Issued For The Wagon House At 1935 North 2nd Street In Norris Square

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Permits have been issued for The Wagon House, a four-story mixed-use building at 1935 North 2nd Street in Olde Kensington. The structure will replace a garage and an adjacent lot on the east side of the block between West Berks Street and West Norris Street. Designed by Ambit Architecture, the structure will rise from a combined lot at 1935-39 North 2nd Street and span 10,640 square feet, which will include 1,000 square feet of ground-level commercial space and 13 residential units. The building will feature a basement, full sprinkling, and parking for four bicycles. Permits list Baltimore Select Properties as the contractor and a construction cost of $1.8 million.

Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2022/03/permits-...north-2nd-street-in-olde-kensington.html