Vancouver Civic Election 2022

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I read this thread, and I can't recall anybody praising her. But hey, neither can you.

Your memory just ain’t what it used to be gramps.

Please see page one of this very thread (refuse to spoon feed you all the way, so you’ll have to ask someone to read it for you).

I’ll be waiting for that apology after you remove your foot from your mouth when you’re done . Talk about throwing random (and now 100% proven FALSE) statements and seeing what sticks…. Oh the delicious irony….

[EastVanMark]

Double post

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

Your memory just ain’t what it used to be gramps.

Please see page one of this very thread (refuse to spoon feed you all the way, so you’ll have to ask someone to read it for you).

I’ll be waiting for that apology after you remove your foot from your mouth when you’re done . Talk about throwing random (and now 100% proven FALSE) statements and seeing what sticks…. Oh the delicious irony….

Wow, one person said they are voting for Swanson, while everybody else was complaining about her record on council. Do you want a cookie?

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Changing City

One City have announced their candidates for the October election. Four for City Council, five for School Board and three for the Park Board.

Does anybody else see a conflict in having a Squamish Nation Councillor on Vancouver council? I have no problem with a councillor who is part of the Squamish nation but a councilor is essentially serving another government.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Does anybody else see a conflict in having a Squamish Nation Councillor on Vancouver council? I have no problem with a councillor who is part of the Squamish nation but a councilor is essentially serving another government.

The Squamish Nation Councillor is running for Park Board, so maybe no big deal (and why she's running for that position). Ideally Park Board get abolished.

[s211]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Does anybody else see a conflict in having a Squamish Nation Councillor on Vancouver council?

Yup.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

The Squamish Nation Councillor is running for Park Board, so maybe no big deal (and why she's running for that position). Ideally Park Board get abolished.

Ah, I see. But isn't it the Green/COPE Parks majority that pitched co-management of our Parks with First Nations without any form of consultation or mandate from Vancouver voters? That sounds like a conflict to me.

However, I agree the Parks Board should be dissolved. Zero reason for another level of bureaucracy.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Wow, one person said they are voting for Swanson, while everybody else was complaining about her record on council. Do you want a cookie?

Nope. Just a simple acknowledgment from you stating your statement was 100% incorrect, but feel free to keep moving goalposts if you wish.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Ah, I see. But isn't it the Green/COPE Parks majority that pitched co-management of our Parks with First Nations without any form of consultation or mandate from Vancouver voters? That sounds like a conflict to me.

However, I agree the Parks Board should be dissolved. Zero reason for another level of bureaucracy.

Yes, could be an issue. But it's not like her connection is unknown. It's a weird one.

Like, what if a Mayor was also an MLA and spent all their time in the provincial legislature advocating for their city? It's not like it's unexpected.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

Nope. Just a simple acknowledgment from you stating your statement was 100% incorrect, but feel free to keep moving goalposts if you wish.

Yeah, you throw enough shit and something will stick. I see you've failed to respond to any other points by myself or others that called you out.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Yeah, you throw enough shit and something will stick. I see you've failed to respond to any other points by myself or others that called you out.

Stay tuned. And careful with all that backpedaling. You might hurt yourself

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

Stay tuned. And careful with all that backpedaling. You might hurt yourself

You've added nothing to the conversation, just making up random things. Remind me where all of the councilors live?

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

How many areas of Vancouver do you think there are? Those are huge bases of population for Vancouver, and certainly some members of council live outside of these areas anyway (Hardwick lives in Kits as a quick google will show you).

You're going to have to show your work. You're just throwing shit against the wall and hoping it sticks.

I KNOW there are over 20 district areas in Vancouver. I stated that most live/are based within 4 or 5. Don’t really see what’s hard to comprehend there. The areas mentioned account for approximately 30% of the total population of Vancouver proper, yet have a disproportionate amount of positions within the city council. And that’s been the case for a while now. In fact, it was even worse before.

So for those scoring at home, for the current mayor and council, just under 60% of those occupying those positions live in those identified areas. When you add in the Non-Profit component, that number jumps to just under 70%.

So much for “throwing stuff at the wall…”

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

You've added nothing to the conversation, just making up random things. Remind me where all of the councilors live?

I have made my statement on that. See above post. If you doubt, feel free to ask about each individually and we can go through where they live until we arrive at our answer. Then we can see what or perhaps who is making the random statements around here.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

I KNOW there are over 20 district areas in Vancouver. I stated that most live/are based within 4 or 5. Don’t really see what’s hard to comprehend there. The areas mentioned account for approximately 30% of the total population of Vancouver proper, yet have a disproportionate amount of positions within the city council. And that’s been the case for a while now. In fact, it was even worse before.

So for those scoring at home, for the current mayor and council, just under 60% of those occupying those positions live in those identified areas. When you add in the Non-Profit component, that number jumps to just under 70%.

So much for “throwing stuff at the wall…”

Which ones qualify in your list of 20? What are the populations of each? Which one does each councilor live in?

There are only 10 councilors and 1 mayor. By your math the absolute maximum that can be represented is 50%, and we're at 40%.. pretty close. Not sure how "non profit component" means anything in the context of where somebody lives.

And finally, who cares where they live, unless they are outside of Vancouver.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

I have made my statement on that. See above post. If you doubt, feel free to ask about each individually and we can go through where they live until we arrive at our answer. Then we can see what or perhaps who is making the random statements around here.

You brought it up, post the list of councilors, where they live, what the population is of that region, and we can look at the group as a whole.

[cov]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Does anybody else see a conflict in having a Squamish Nation Councillor on Vancouver council? I have no problem with a councillor who is part of the Squamish nation but a councilor is essentially serving another government.

She's running for park board. Dishonest as always. The only way for your case to have legs to stand on is for you to lie. This isn't just your brand, but also the people you support, and the people you agree with. We are witnessing people with absolutely 0 integrity vouching for each other, both online and in real life; both in leadership and membership.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Which ones qualify in your list of 20? What are the populations of each? Which one does each councilor live in?

There are only 10 councilors and 1 mayor. By your math the absolute maximum that can be represented is 50%, and we're at 40%.. pretty close. Not sure how "non profit component" means anything in the context of where somebody lives.

And finally, who cares where they live, unless they are outside of Vancouver.

Qualify?? It’s not about qualifying. It’s what it is. It’s the city that came up with them. And it’s not 20. I said More than 20. So actually “my Math” is just fine actually, and is exactly as mentioned. So wrong again.

Finally, work in the non-profit doesn’t mean anything with population. But then again, nobody made that connection, except you apparently.

Why does it matter? Because it’s the same homogenous group that always ends up in city hall. Outsiders of that cabal rarely break through. So when people say “people don’t like a particular policy,” they actually mean only a small group and by no means the majority of Vancouver or it’s citizens. It also clearly demonstrates what one needs to be involved in to get ahead politically in this city so when people made ridiculous statements like “why don’t you run for office” they need to realize it’s not that simple

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

Qualify?? It’s not about qualifying. It’s what it is. It’s the city that came up with them. And it’s not 20. I said More than 20. So actually “my Math” is just fine actually, and is exactly as mentioned. So wrong again.

Finally, work in the non-profit doesn’t mean anything with population. But then again, nobody made that connection, except you apparently.

Why does it matter? Because it’s the same homogenous group that always ends up in city hall. Outsiders of that cabal rarely break through. So when people say “people don’t like a particular policy,” they actually mean only a small group and by no means the majority of Vancouver or it’s citizens.

It's on you to show us that this is a homogenous group, and how. There's some pretty big diversity of viewpoints on this council, between people like Hardwick, Swanson, Boyle, Carr, etc.

It's a weird subjective judgement you're making. You didn't answer any of my questions. I get that you are angry, but what is the point you are trying to make?

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

It's on you to show us that this is a homogenous group, and how. There's some pretty big diversity of viewpoints on this council, between people like Hardwick, Swanson, Boyle, Carr, etc.

It's a weird subjective judgement you're making. You didn't answer any of my questions. I get that you are angry, but what is the point you are trying to make?

Not angry at all. Perhaps a little frustrated over the lack of comprehension of my posts, but definitely not mad.

Again, see the last paragraph of my last post to see my “point”. But to restate it in simple terms, this city is is now and has been for a while been run by buffoons who all come from the same general background and live in a very particular area of the city. If you go back through the last few elections, you definitely see a pattern emerge. To get ahead in the political scene in Vancouver you must attach yourself to a party and/or beholden to the special interest group you belong to.

Entire segments of the population are shut out of this system, and that ain’t so good.