Vancouver Civic Election 2022

[whatnext]

So Council spent 5 hours yesterday debating on whether to repeal the 25 cent single use coffee cup fee only to have Kennedy Stewart, the Greens and Swanson vote to retain this "tax" that goes straight to from the peoples' wallets to the bottom line of companies like McDonalds.

[s211]

Originally Posted by whatnext

So Council spent 5 hours yesterday debating on whether to repeal the 25 cent single use coffee cup fee only to have Kennedy Stewart, the Greens and Swanson vote to retain this "tax" that goes straight to from the peoples' wallets to the bottom line of companies like McDonalds.

Some people are so tone deaf that they no longer hear their virtue signal continuously operating.

[Feathered Friend]

Some updates:

One City is selecting their nominations this weekend.

Progress Vancouver will select their's on April 30th.

Also, Lesli Boldt has announced she's seeking to become one of Vision Vancouver's candidates for council, and has secured an endorsement from Joy Macphail.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by whatnext

So Council spent 5 hours yesterday debating on whether to repeal the 25 cent single use coffee cup fee only to have Kennedy Stewart, the Greens and Swanson vote to retain this "tax" that goes straight to from the peoples' wallets to the bottom line of companies like McDonalds.

And yet some on here we’re saying how “great” Councillor Swanson was. Weird world.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by rofina

If getting personally involved back in 2018 taught me one thing is that there is a silent majority that is extremely unhappy with status quo. But they tow the line, and generally have in the past, and I expect will into the future.

I will readily admit I am surprised at the current residents threshold for bull*hit acceptance from City Hall and I fear that too many people have chosen the eject button versus the stick around and invest in change button.

Why the surprise? People literally have very little to no options out there. Every recent election it seems you vote for the people who will do the least damage or will have the lowest whacko quotient, and then hold on tight to see what damage will be done. It’s a steady stream of D student candidates who lost touch with reality and logic long ago. People literally have to choose which virtue signalling whack jobs they will hand the keys to the city to. Until that situation changes, more and more people will disengage from the process

[s211]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

Why the surprise? People literally have very little to no options out there. Every recent election it seems you vote for the people who will do the least damage or will have the lowest whacko quotient, and then hold on tight to see what damage will be done. It’s a steady stream of D student candidates who lost touch with reality and logic long ago. People literally have to choose which virtue signalling whack jobs they will hand the keys to the city to. Until that situation changes, more and more people will disengage from the process

This will probably be the first time in 30 years that I've not voted.

[cov]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

Why the surprise? People literally have very little to no options out there. Every recent election it seems you vote for the people who will do the least damage or will have the lowest whacko quotient, and then hold on tight to see what damage will be done. It’s a steady stream of D student candidates who lost touch with reality and logic long ago. People literally have to choose which virtue signalling whack jobs they will hand the keys to the city to. Until that situation changes, more and more people will disengage from the process

you should make a run and see how popular your ideas really are. If sitting councilors are D students then beating them must be super easy right?

or

Your personal frustration doesn't amount to real solutions to any problems. Your ideas are unpopular. People each have their own opinions on how to improve the city and just because you are all unhappy doesn't mean you are on the same team. Making unrealistic demands, and pushing for counter productive policies is part of the reason why the city is the way it is.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by cov

you should make a run and see how popular your ideas really are. If sitting councilors are D students then beating them must be super easy right?

or

Your personal frustration doesn't amount to real solutions to any problems. Your ideas are unpopular. People each have their own opinions on how to improve the city and just because you are all unhappy doesn't mean you are on the same team. Making unrealistic demands, and pushing for counter productive policies is part of the reason why the city is the way it is.

The current system is does not allow much for variance of ideals. If you'll notice most of the council and mayor including other candidates either live in/around the same general area and have awfully similar backgrounds. That doesn't exactly bode well for coming up with new ideas. Until that system changes, the prospects for real change remains grim.

My ideas are unpopular? What are you basing that statement on? Election results? The ones that only a fraction of citizens actually take part in? See a couple posts above. A poster states that he will not be voting for the first time in 30 years? You think he's an anomaly? Think he's alone? Guess again.

And what exactly are the "unrealistic" demands or "counter productive" policies that anyone is pushing that doesn't meet your lofty standards? Viewcone relaxation? outrageous signage rules? $0.25 for a disposable cup? The fact that I would like the city to relax overly regulated bar and restaurant industries?, be more business friendly by reducing the unfair tax burden they currently carry?, get serious with crime and actually protect the public rather than make lame, made up excuses for why you don't?, return Vancouver to a destination for the entire region rather than the current regime that caters everything to a select few who can use only certain modes of transportation, leaving everybody else (who happen to be the vast majority BTW), endless property tax increases to fund the endless pie-in-the-sky, unicorn initiatives that do absolutely nothing except keep special interests groups and those that dwell within them employed,? And that just scratches the surface.....

By all means professor, enlighten the group which so called "realistic" and "productive" policies have improved the standard of living, affordability, and prosperity of the city.

[djh]

Originally Posted by cov

you should make a run and see how popular your ideas really are. If sitting councilors are D students then beating them must be super easy right?

There are several people on this forum who I wish would run for City Council, so that all their armchair expert urban planning solutions, whining, negativity, and unconstructive criticism can be burnished in the fire of reality.

A taste of the way the real world works will hopefully humble them.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by s211

This will probably be the first time in 30 years that I've not voted.

There is going to be such a huge field that there should be at least a couple candidates you can support. If you don’t, then the attitude from some of the posters here that “nobody supports your ideas” just gets more ammunition.

[cov]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

The current system is does not allow much for variance of ideals. If you'll notice most of the council and mayor including other candidates either live in/around the same general area and have awfully similar backgrounds. That doesn't exactly bode well for coming up with new ideas. Until that system changes, the prospects for real change remains grim.

My ideas are unpopular? What are you basing that statement on? Election results? The ones that only a fraction of citizens actually take part in? See a couple posts above. A poster states that he will not be voting for the first time in 30 years? You think he's an anomaly? Think he's alone? Guess again.

And what exactly are the "unrealistic" demands or "counter productive" policies that anyone is pushing that doesn't meet your lofty standards? Viewcone relaxation? outrageous signage rules? $0.25 for a disposable cup? The fact that I would like the city to relax overly regulated bar and restaurant industries?, be more business friendly by reducing the unfair tax burden they currently carry?, get serious with crime and actually protect the public rather than make lame, made up excuses for why you don't?, return Vancouver to a destination for the entire region rather than the current regime that caters everything to a select few who can use only certain modes of transportation, leaving everybody else (who happen to be the vast majority BTW), endless property tax increases to fund the endless pie-in-the-sky, unicorn initiatives that do absolutely nothing except keep special interests groups and those that dwell within them employed,? And that just scratches the surface.....

By all means professor, enlighten the group which so called "realistic" and "productive" policies have improved the standard of living, affordability, and prosperity of the city.

look at this sad text wall. If you think your ideas are popular just run for office already. The fact you wrote this sad text wall either demonstrates that you are too cowardly to validate your claims, or you already know that nobody supports you.

I'm just tired of people talking up a huge stinking pile of 🞵🞵🞵🞵 with nothing to back up. Aren't you?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

And yet some on here we’re saying how “great” Councillor Swanson was. Weird world.

Who on here has praised Swanson?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

The current system is does not allow much for variance of ideals. If you'll notice most of the council and mayor including other candidates either live in/around the same general area and have awfully similar backgrounds. That doesn't exactly bode well for coming up with new ideas. Until that system changes, the prospects for real change remains grim.

What? You can't just throw out random statements like this. They have no basis in reality.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by cov

I'm just tired of people talking up a huge stinking pile of 🞵🞵🞵🞵 with nothing to back up. Aren't you?

Bingo!

I wonder how many people in here know that 2 councilors are married to VPD officers.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Who on here has praised Swanson?

Go back through some of the recent threads. They did just that. Even going as far as to single her out personally for her “outstanding” work within the council.

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by cov

look at this sad text wall. If you think your ideas are popular just run for office already. The fact you wrote this sad text wall either demonstrates that you are too cowardly to validate your claims, or you already know that nobody supports you.

I'm just tired of people talking up a huge stinking pile of 🞵🞵🞵🞵 with nothing to back up. Aren't you?

Ya. Facts do have a way to make those people who can’t compose a fact based response and/or live in denial. It’s hard to find an appropriately sized umbrella once the facts start raining down.

Run for office? Do you really think the civic political scene is works like a high school student council election? If you bothered to actually read the post, you would have seen that in order to have any hope of being elected, you have to attach yourself to a political party, or have LOTS and LOTS of your own money to throw around. And even then, if you managed to pull off that particular miracle, you would still be a lone voice with a singular vote. Not exactly a recipe for success.

I’m just tired of people following anything that their local councillor spews like blind sheep without actually looking at the fact based result of their performance and letting the city continually get away with taking steaming hot, tightly coiled, on the local population and try to pass it off as Christmas pudding. How bout you?

[EastVanMark]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

What? You can't just throw out random statements like this. They have no basis in reality.

They don’t? Pardon my random statements. How many councillors live outside of Yaletown, downtown West End, or in and around Strathcona/Grandview Woodland area? How many have occupations that don’t involve being an “executive director” /founder for some form of a non-profit group? (Almost exclusively in the poverty sector I might add) . Now go through the last 4 election cycles, and get back to me just how random those statements are.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

Go back through some of the recent threads. They did just that. Even going as far as to single her out personally for her “outstanding” work within the council.

I read this thread, and I can't recall anybody praising her. But hey, neither can you.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by EastVanMark

They don’t? Pardon my random statements. How many councillors live outside of Yaletown, downtown West End, or in and around Strathcona/Grandview Woodland area? How many have occupations that don’t involve being an “executive director” /founder for some form of a non-profit group? (Almost exclusively in the poverty sector I might add) . Now go through the last 4 election cycles, and get back to me just how random those statements are.

How many areas of Vancouver do you think there are? Those are huge bases of population for Vancouver, and certainly some members of council live outside of these areas anyway (Hardwick lives in Kits as a quick google will show you).

You're going to have to show your work. You're just throwing 🞵🞵🞵🞵 against the wall and hoping it sticks.

[Changing City]

One City have announced their candidates for the October election. Four for City Council, five for School Board and three for the Park Board.