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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 5:58 PM
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Love it - Reminds me of building in Montreal (on Greene Avenue and de Maisonneuve)
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 7:19 PM
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I don't see any reason you can't grow a vertical forest in Toronto. Nature takes over very quickly when neglected like anywhere else. You just need the right species.
Soil volumes required make it very difficult.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 7:26 PM
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Soil volumes required make it very difficult.
It's also a lot of weight, and ultimate loading will increase as the tree grows.

Also, I would think that potential water damage could be a concern. Root systems grow, and can crack concrete, which could eventually cause water seepage into the superstructure of the building.

Trees on balconies may look neat right now, but there could be unintended consequences 40-50 years down the road.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 8:14 PM
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^ Yeah I'd have to agree. Plants are awesome but tress are giant sumo plants that should probably stay on the ground.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 8:17 PM
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I would love that ...for Red Deer. Not downtown Edmonton dwarfed by the Ice development. that's just me.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2022, 9:41 PM
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Really ?
Sorry but that is a bit underwhelming - was hoping for residential on that lot (preferably on the taller side).
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 12:57 AM
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Soil volumes required make it very difficult.

I will go out on limb and say make it expensive rather than difficult. I purchased a house with a 3 foot tall Manitoba Maple sapling growing out of an eaves trough.

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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 1:03 AM
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It's also a lot of weight, and ultimate loading will increase as the tree grows.

Also, I would think that potential water damage could be a concern. Root systems grow, and can crack concrete, which could eventually cause water seepage into the superstructure of the building.

Trees on balconies may look neat right now, but there could be unintended consequences 40-50 years down the road.
Roots follow water sources. They will tear apart deteriorated clay sewer lines. They won't touch a spanking new pvc replacement. I don't see cracking the buildings concrete a real concern as it doesn't have their interest.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 1:11 AM
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Really ?
Sorry but that is a bit underwhelming - was hoping for residential on that lot (preferably on the taller side).
Definitely underwhelming. It fits perfectly. Maybe I was there at the wrong time. Maybe it still needs time to mature. The square didn't look anything like those renderings. It was stark and cold. It's unfortunate as the podiums save the hotel are big box quality. The render people playing chess is a good distraction from that.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 2:12 AM
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I will go out on limb and say make it expensive rather than difficult. I purchased a house with a 3 foot tall Manitoba Maple sapling growing out of an eaves trough.
Sure. You can put out a potted plant, but an actual tree is logistically difficult, high maintenance, and very expensive. There’s a reason architects have been drawing buildings covered with trees for 20 years but almost none of them have ever been built.
     
     
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Sure. You can put out a potted plant, but an actual tree is logistically difficult, high maintenance, and very expensive. There’s a reason architects have been drawing buildings covered with trees for 20 years but almost none of them have ever been built.
Exactly.. A well known example from Vancouver, to replace one tree (yes a large tree, but just one tree)



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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 2:00 PM
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There are plenty of small trees (sumac for instance) that would do just fine as a balcony tree. The biggest impediment to balcony trees are humans who are far to busy doing 'important' stuff like keeping up with the latest pop culture 'event' or selecting their next tattoo that will...etc... rather than taking a few minutes to give a tree a drink of water. Nobody wants to see their condo facade dotted with dead sticks so condo rules stating that no plants higher than the balcony rail are permitted come into play. There are many that would love to have a balcony tree but can't because of the few.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 3:35 PM
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Sure. You can put out a potted plant, but an actual tree is logistically difficult, high maintenance, and very expensive. There’s a reason architects have been drawing buildings covered with trees for 20 years but almost none of them have ever been built.
I'm not talking about a potted plant. It's not difficult to engineer a building to support trees. It happens on top of subterranean parking/ podium roofs all the time. As you say, it's growth maintenance and access to the trees on the terraces.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 3:40 PM
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Exactly.. A well known example from Vancouver, to replace one tree (yes a large tree, but just one tree)



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Yeah, it was a very large tree subject to zoning approval. Doubtful there is another case where a strata is contractually bound to pay $50,000 to replace one tree with another mature tree on a tower covered with them. Irrelevant to the subject at hand.

Unlikely, the trees on these tree covered towers would ever be given the soil to grow that big and you would simply replace a dead one with a sapling that fits in the service elevator. The trees in these renderings are about ten feet tall and that's about as big as they will get.
     
     
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That CWB proposal looks like 🞵🞵🞵🞵. Like something you would expect in a suburban office park. In the 3rd last render it highlights how dull the architecture is in Edmonton, except for the stadium. I'm always blown away by the stark contrast between Calgary's and Edmonton's skylines.
     
     
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Source: https://edmonton.skyrisecities.com/forum...42s-one-properties-dialog.24170/page-109

It is assumed that the empty lot (owned by those that built Ice District) will eventually have a residential building. What is the minimum number of residential units needed to make adding a pedway feasible?
     
     
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I suspect that we will see a project in that lot/paired with H&P building on the corner to be connected.





Hoping The Clancey across the street goes as well to help complete the area/district.


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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 6:08 PM
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If those towers get built then having the CWB building at 16 stories will look alright.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2022, 8:09 PM
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That CWB proposal looks like 🞵🞵🞵🞵. Like something you would expect in a suburban office park.
It just looks like a wider version of CWB's current Edmonton HQ to me. Edmonton's architecture is very plain.
     
     
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thanks for the link. looks like a Commercial addition.





more pics from the site https://vancouver.thebaybuilding.ca/
     
     
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