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Old Posted Jan 19, 2022, 12:39 PM
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FWIW my impression is this comes down to planning nuts and bolts and overcoming bureaucratic/political inertia plus implementing the right construction market incentives (which could include payment for construction of public/subsidized housing or other thing; I just mean "actually getting real construction workers to build things"). There doesn't seem to be much in the news coverage so far that sheds light on those details. A while back I think I read that NS was looking at some incentives for trades. I wonder how much Canada's labour force is lacking in this area. It feels like there is a lot of emphasis on university education, both for citizens and immigrants.
It is interesting to look back over the decades at some of these large sites and how they turned out. It seems that more often than not, the result given some perspective of time is "not good". You go from middling ones like Convoy Place in the north end, which is at best just OK but now is rather cramped inside and out, and is quite dated, to Bedbug Towers on the Barrington Bubble which is awful; to Quinpool Centre which has a bad tower, townhouse units that are somewhat better, but a total disaster of a shopping mall that has been continually rebuilt to varying degrees of success. All of these involved significant Planning Dept work at the time which seemed to do little good in the end.

The St. Pat's site was held up by Jennifer Watts and her cronies on Council to develop a planning vision for the site which took years and acted mostly as a significant roadblock. The Bloomfield site is a textbook example of a govt debacle which should never been allowed to happen. One could argue that in neither case were the benefits, if any, of the delays outweighed by the result in the end (especially since the results still have not been realized years later). Then you have St. Pat's/Alexandra which was another example of Council caving to squeaky-wheel loudmouths over doing what was best for the area and the city. I think all of those projects were seen by the Houston govt as examples which led to their decision to involve themselves in HRM planning. And who knows how the Cogswell project will actually turn out despite the long and winding road it has taken through the planning process. Past experience would place the odds on it being not good in the end as very likely.

The issue of building trades capacity is one that is not new. For some time now there has been a distinct push in the education system to push public school graduates towards university, in many cases leaving them with degrees that do not prepare them for jobs down the road and saddled with significant long-term debt. Trades were seen as lesser outcomes somehow and looked down upon. We would be far better off with more plumbers, electricians and carpenters and fewer library science and women's studies grads.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2022, 1:31 AM
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The St. Pat's site was held up by Jennifer Watts and her cronies on Council to develop a planning vision for the site which took years and acted mostly as a significant roadblock.
I think the visioning exercises can be good but they should be time-bounded and a lot of the delays that happen are presented as "planning" when they are really just arbitrary political manipulation that is the opposite of planning (planners and engineers gave it the OK but Friends of the ____ don't like it so send it back to the drawing board). With those delays out of the picture it does not take 15 years for the basic engineering assessments which are mostly perfunctory and repetitive. There is nothing special about most 100 unit apartment building proposals. If there are multi-year delays due to a lack of throughput on the basic planning then that sounds like one reason why the province's intervention makes sense.

I was reminded of the silly political interference today when I read a CBC article about HRM funding for the new art gallery and they quoted a councillor who said she didn't think the building should be built there because of flood risk. There is already an engineering firm engaged to consider that issue. Meanwhile council was penny-pinching on this while some of them not long ago were proposing they spend money on totally crazy stuff like the hijab issue in Quebec which whatever you think of it is clearly not within the jurisdiction of HRM.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2022, 12:16 PM
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I was reminded of the silly political interference today when I read a CBC article about HRM funding for the new art gallery and they quoted a councillor who said she didn't think the building should be built there because of flood risk. There is already an engineering firm engaged to consider that issue. Meanwhile council was penny-pinching on this while some of them not long ago were proposing they spend money on totally crazy stuff like the hijab issue in Quebec which whatever you think of it is clearly not within the jurisdiction of HRM.
That was Coun. Kathleen Morse, former NDP staffer and failed political candidate, who is now in her element with her like-minded friends on Council. It is exactly the kind of thinking I would expect from her. While I think the Art Gallery is a waste of money for the province, her reasons for opposing it are vacuous.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2022, 9:29 PM
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Now that that eyesore of a building (Cheque processing centre or something like it, I believe), is demolished, I hope the new building will wrap around this ugly red siding and provide an extension of retail/commercial/bar street frontage on Grafton St.
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That's so conspicuous as to actually be kind of funny. I think they should have a big mural of Waldo (of "Where's Waldo" fame) painted on the side of it...
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2022, 11:11 PM
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We can only hope that the new development reaches the height of the Dillon.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2022, 4:48 AM
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I'm lost. Is there a new proposal for the lot on Grafton?
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2022, 2:15 PM
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I'm lost. Is there a new proposal for the lot on Grafton?
Don't know of one. One justification for allowing blank walls is that 'some' adjacent development will likely cover the blank wall 'someday'.
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I'm lost. Is there a new proposal for the lot on Grafton?
Dexel owns that lot, as well as the building on Pizza Corner that houses Pizza Girls. I wouldn't be surprised if they have something big in store for the block, but they probably just have their hands full with their existing projects...
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2022, 7:47 PM
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Dexel owns that lot, as well as the building on Pizza Corner that houses Pizza Girls. I wouldn't be surprised if they have something big in store for the block, but they probably just have their hands full with their existing projects...
Interested to see what happens with this. I hope it's not a bland box that fills in as much of the block as they can assemble. If they do something kind of like Vic Suites (but ideally better) that has a mix of high-quality small-ish facades that fit in with the small commercial buildings around there it could turn out nicely.

I'd like to see some local historical character preserved or enhanced. Maxwell Plum is not perfect but it has the classic 3 storey wood facade with colourful storefront. Dexel could build a row of those along the Grafton side with residential above.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2022, 10:42 PM
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I don’t particularly care at all about the Pizza Girls building, and would be just as happy to see it replaced, but the Maxwell’s Plum building is actually one of the oldest buildings downtown, nearly 200 years. It’s an example of a pretty classic style there aren’t too many of anymore, and I’m a little concerned that just because it’s an old wooden building rather than masonry, it will be seen as disposable during any redevelopment.

It should have been designated heritage in 2020, when council considered that whole slate of potential heritage buildings, but of course they chickened out on designating any structures without explicit owner approval.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2022, 5:36 PM
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Province opens bids for housing development in downtown Dartmouth

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The Nova Scotia government has picked a piece of prime real estate in downtown Dartmouth as a possible site for a mixed-use development that would have to include affordable housing.

The parcel is currently a parking lot, bordered by King and Prince streets, and Alderney Drive. It's about half a hectare in size and municipal zoning would allow for a building up to 90 metres tall, or, depending on the design, 20 to 30 storeys.

On Tuesday, Crown corporation Develop Nova Scotia, which owns the land, opened a call for proposals for a development that is to be "primarily residential, with community, cultural, commercial or small-scale production space."


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Old Posted Jan 25, 2022, 5:45 PM
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This sounds interesting. I think if the province wants to make an impact they should focus on real developments and not high-level plans. Buy a site, invite developers to bid, finance as necessary, and create aggressive time limits in exchange, short-circuiting HRM planning if necessary (while following the important stuff).

Metro Halifax has a huge number of prime sites that are underused, like this one. It is remarkable; a lot of these areas look like decayed Rust Belt sites but they're stuck in planning limbo for the most part and people would love to live in urban housing on them. The city has a big housing supply gap but even if the province can push forward 500 or 1,000 units that will help a bit (and will be a big help for the people who get the housing).
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Vacant land since March 31 1978 when Dartmouth council used federal funds to expropriate waterfront properties.
The site is ideal for replacing Eastwood Manor and Alderney Manor followed by re-development of those two sites. And limited 'visitor parking only' would reduce the cost and the volume of excavated slate. Dump the slate in the harbour to expand the waterfront park westward. Make several upper levels for market rents. Ask a developer to build the project but retain public ownership. The site is large enough for two towers.
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193 Portland Street, Dartmouth - a happy demolition.


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Old Posted Jan 27, 2022, 6:12 PM
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Good to see it gone.
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[QUOTE=OldDartmouthMark;9516281]Good to see it gone.

Two HRM plain clothes police officers went into Tim's and parked the un-marked vehicle on that property and after coffee found the barrier locked. They went in to see the owner and asked him to unlock the barrier. Why would two police officers park on private property when parking was available behind the Moffat pharmacy ?
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2022, 9:40 PM
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Two HRM plain clothes police officers went into Tim's and parked the un-marked vehicle on that property and after coffee found the barrier locked. They went in to see the owner and asked him to unlock the barrier. Why would two police officers park on private property when parking was available behind the Moffat pharmacy ?
You're talking about that old Frank Magazine coverage?

Frankly, I don't care. Cops have a tough job to do, with severe scrutiny from all sides. I always try to be as helpful and cooperative to them as I can be. His reaction to them, in retrospect, was perhaps a little foreshadowing as to what was to come.

Turns out that this guy was one of the most vile human beings to ever inhabit our province, and the sooner all traces of that piece of shit are gone from this planet the better.

That's all I'm going to say about that.
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AllNS reported on Wednesday that Rob Steele and John Ghosn have finished land-banking and are set to re-develop the Queen/Birmingham block. Over the past year, they've purchased the colourful buildings on vintage row as well as the buildings behind them on Birmingham for a combined $7.6M. I'm personally sad to be losing this block to redevelopment, the Spring Garden area has lost a lot of character properties/streetscapes over the past few years.


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