Canadian City Proposals

[TorontoDrew]

posted on urbantoronto.ca

Address: Commerce St at Hwy 7, Vaughan, Ontario
Category: Condo, Retail, Townhouse
Status: Pre-Construction
Completion: 2027
Number of Buildings: 2
Height 630 ft / 192.00 m, 545 ft / 166.00 m
Storeys: 56, 48
Number of Units: 1111
Developer: SmartCentres REIT
Architect: Hariri Pontarini Architects
Architect of Record: Hariri Pontarini Architects
Landscape Architect: MHBC Planning
Interior Designer: Hariri Pontarini Architects
Realtor/Sales: SmartCentres REIT

[905er]

That's a smart looking proposal. I like the podium and overall design.

[WhipperSnapper]

smart ... I see what you did there.

I agree. It's not bad as far as two towers on a block sized podium go. The bird proofing adds even more texture. I absolutely hate the steps between street level and the main floor.

[esquire]

That's a more urban cityscape than I would have imagined for Vaughan in that first rendering. Sharp looking development.

[vanman]

Instant urbanism done right! Vaughan is setting the bar high with that proposal.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

smart ... I see what you did there.

I absolutely hate the steps between street level and the main floor.

What's wrong with the steps? They're necessary as there is a slope in the grade from one end of the development to the other. Maybe it was hard to tell from the other images.

source: urbantoronto.ca

[WhipperSnapper]

Steps are like raised planters or fences. They divide public from private space. This is the usual anti loitering ... pretty but, don't touch design. There are other ways in dealing with the modest slope to avoid steps.

The site is also part of a huge greenfield. They could level the property fairly easily.

[TorontoDrew]

How? They would need to raise the road at one side? It looks like a 10ft slope from 1 end of the site to the other.

[Al Ski]

Oooh! More cheapo hedge fund investorboxes! Just what the city needs...

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

How? They would need to raise the road at one side? It looks like a 10ft slope from 1 end of the site to the other.

There is no road. Like I said, it's a massive greenfield. Regardless, I don't see the steepness making staggering the first floor impractical. Staggering the height of the main floor plates makes combining CRUs impractical on top of the physical and physiological barrier between public and private.

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

There is no road. Like I said, it's a massive greenfield. Regardless, I don't see the steepness making staggering the first floor impractical. Staggering the height of the main floor plates makes combining CRUs impractical on top of the physical and physiological barrier between public and private.

There very much is a road, and there very much is a grade.

You think farms are all dead flat? Just because it isn't urbanized doesn't mean there aren't grades to deal with.

You have some flexibility to flatten grades out, but you can't ignore them.

[TorontoDrew]

What Insernamehere said.

Also I think the stairs ad a bit of visual texture to front of this building. Also stairs are oerfect places to loiter. You must be old enough to remember the stairs skit on Boys in the Hall. Even the condo replacing those stairs on Church is planning on putting new stairs in just for loitering.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

What Insernamehere said.

Also I think the stairs ad a bit of visual texture to front of this building. Also stairs are oerfect places to loiter. You must be old enough to remember the stairs skit on Boys in the Hall. Even the condo replacing those stairs on Church is planning on putting new stairs in just for loitering.

I believe you mean The Steps.

[TorontoDrew]

Yes! Thx.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

There very much is a road, and there very much is a grade.

You think farms are all dead flat? Just because it isn't urbanized doesn't mean there aren't grades to deal with.

You have some flexibility to flatten grades out, but you can't ignore them.

My mistake. Guess I was looking at the wrong location. Obviously, I don't think farms are dead flat as the greenfield I was looking at isn't dead flat. Farms are regraded when developed as subdivisions. The grades aren't removed in their entirety. They are redesigned around the site plan. I wasn't implying grading the development to pancake the grade. I was implying leveling the site to eliminate the stairs (or at least most of them)

I don't have a problem with steps although I will never buy a 4.5 level townhouse again. It's what they represent here.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

I don't have a problem with steps although I will never buy a 4.5 level townhouse again. It's what they represent here.

Now I understand your distain of steps. If anybody lives in the East end of Toronto and has ever walked to Leftfield Brewery they may have passed this oddity of an apartment building. Imagine living on the 4th floor here Whipper.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.67254,-7...Jj2G9_pqpGxponASIrVKg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[TorontoDrew]

Here is one I think we can all agree on (hating). St Michael’s Choir School Proposes Expansion on Bond Street. That is unless you love Boston City Hall with a maximum security outdoor rec area on the roof.

The current building:



Source: urbantoronto.ca

[J.OT13]

Currently a Chrysler dealership, three towers proposed across the street from New Orchard station, a new open-trench O-Train station within the Byron Tramway Park tunnel.

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Fengate Asset Management is proposing a development at 1047 Richmond Road that includes three towers of 36-storeys, 38-storeys, and 40-storeys heights atop a connected six-storey podium, with frontage onto both Richmond Road and New Orchard Avenue North. A total of 1,343 residential units are proposed, ranging from studios to three-bedroom units, including 203 barrier free units. The proposed development contains a total of 762 underground parking spaces within three levels of underground parking, 672 for residential use and 90 visitor parking spaces. Vehicular access to the site will be provided from New Orchard Avenue North along the northern and eastern edges of the site. The proposed development contains an internal pick-up and drop-off area accessed via a drive aisle from the north, as well as central outdoor amenity space.

The ground floor of the podium is proposed to contain a total of 1,347 squares metres of commercial space intended to accommodate retail tenants, with active entrances along Richmond Road. A total of 672 bicycle parking spaces are provided for residential use, with 6 additional spaces for the commercial uses. Residential amenity spaces are proposed internally within the podium, as well as via private balconies and communal at-grade spaces. A 1,015 square metre public park area is proposed at the corner of Richmond Road and New Orchard Avenue North, connecting the New Orchard Light Rail Transit (LRT) Station to the subject site.

Architect: IBI Group


Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applications/D02-02-22-0012/details

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[Harley613]

I was literally making the post when yours popped up

[hipster duck]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Here is one I think we can all agree on (hating). St Michael’s Choir School Proposes Expansion on Bond Street. That is unless you love Boston City Hall with a maximum security outdoor rec area on the roof.

I’m the odd one out, but I like it.

The facadism is relatively deep and won’t be noticeable, plus by building a new, level front entrance they get rid of that ugly wheelchair ramp.

The fenced-in playground on the roof is giving me Manhattan vibes.