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biguc · #**6541** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 10:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

If we’re dreaming about an airport line why not reconnect Wellington Ave back to the existing grid?

In fact it would connect to Cumberland at HSC and there would be a possibility to run a direct transit line from Canada Life Centre to the Airport. You can get additional stops at DMCI, Central Park, Sargent Park, and Superstore at Polo. Looking to the transit master plan it would also be a perfect extension of the Donald Route. There’s even space for high density infill near Garbage Hill. So much opportunity for revitalization and development.

This has been a dream of mine for a long time, just without the reconnecting Wellington part. I'd disconnect Cumberland, make AT and tramway only. Turn Notre Dame back into a two-way street. (I'd also like a branch running up the avenue section of Notre Dame, out to RRC, to reduce the vehicular traffic coming into the city. This would probably actually be the basis for the Wellington-Airport branch.)

All the rest though, yeah. Westpoint park should be a jewel. Building a light rail overpass would be a good excuse to cap over the freight lines and spruce up the park a bit, plus upzone the dumpy areas to the south and west.

eman · #**6542** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 1:14 PM**

Why did the Mulvey land ideally suited to high density transit oriented design become a park? Parks cost money. High density development could have paid to upgrade the existing river trial park thats right there.

The demand for housing is there. The City of Winnipeg repeatedly encourages builders to avoid building near downtown. Instead dozens of buildings go up in Bridgewater and Sage Creek. How much did developers spend submitting bids?

Mulvey is zoned high density as outlined in the Osborne Village Neighbourhood Plan and now no one will ever live there.

Developers should be fighting to build massive projects all around Osborne Station and the city counsellor Sherri Rollins and the Mayor should be encouraging it. 10 years since Osborne Station was built as part of a hundred million dollar rapid transit project and all we get is a PARK and zero units built. A FUCKING FAILURE. Transit oriented design is supposed to increase the tax base to help pay for it.

Confusion Corner should have been high density on every corner by now. A complete transformation. The Burger King should be the podium of a high density building

Osborne Village Neighbourhood Plan and Osborn Station after 10 years. Grade F

cheswick · #**6543** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 1:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cactus

Neat project. https://www.amphora.ca/micro

What’s natural occurring affordable housing? Super small units that are cheap rent?

esquire · #**6544** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by cllew

I think the Lions may have problems getting people to live at 610 Portage Ave as they are now advertising that their building is no longer a 55+ building but open to anybody.

This could be why they did not proceed with the other building and are selling the land.

I was kind of wondering about that myself... I know some might disagree, but the West End has taken a rough turn over the past few years. It could make the location a tough sell relative to other places around town.

I could also see the current provincial government situation playing a role as well... they likely wouldn't be as generous with funding contributions as the other guys.

bomberjet · #**6545** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 1:43 PM**

From what I remember. The city kept the Mulvey property along the river and sold the other piece. I am fine with this approach.. tThe City should keep basically all the riverfront property they can.

thebasketballgeek · #**6546** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 1:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by eman

Why did the Mulvey land ideally suited to high density transit oriented design become a park? Parks cost money. High density development could have paid to upgrade the existing river trial park thats right there.

The demand for housing is there. The City of Winnipeg repeatedly encourages builders to avoid building near downtown. Instead dozens of buildings go up in Bridgewater and Sage Creek. How much did developers spend submitting bids?

Mulvey is zoned high density as outlined in the Osborne Village Neighbourhood Plan and now no one will ever live there.

Developers should be fighting to build massive projects all around Osborne Station and the city counsellor Sherri Rollins and the Mayor should be encouraging it. 10 years since Osborne Station was built as part of a hundred million dollar rapid transit project and all we get is a PARK and zero units built. A FUCKING FAILURE. Transit oriented design is supposed to increase the tax base to help pay for it.

Confusion Corner should have been high density on every corner by now. A complete transformation. The Burger King should be the podium of a high density building

Osborne Village Neighbourhood Plan and Osborn Station after 10 years. Grade F

I can’t help but agree. There’s development happening in 4/5 other stations that dwarf the amount of development on Osborne. How is it that 10 years after Osborne Station was built there’s still a fucking Burger King with a drive thru right next to it? Not to mention it’s surrounded by one of the biggest surface parking eyesore I’ve ever seen. No one has even touched all those damn parking lots on the east side of Donald. What the hell is happening to that building next to the station anyway? The Masonic Memorial centre can they please leave I hate seeing that stupid building every time I go down Osborne. So many questions so little answers. The only thing I don’t mind is having that additional green space on Mulvey because it will enhance the River trail quite a bit.

You can’t grade it any higher then a complete failure so far.

davequanbury · #**6547** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 1:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

I assume Wellington connected to Sherbrook. And when Cumberland was cut through the nieghbourhood, again I assume, Wellington did not connect.

I feel like it's a human type thing to want to connect these roads up to complete the grid. Like a builder thing. Beaver must stop flowing water, for example.

I don't know why this type of question gets me interested enough to spend an hour staring at old maps, but from what I can tell, Wellington originally terminated at Maryland (see 1917), then was punched through to Sherbrook (see 1963, 1970), then was re-terminated at Maryland more recently than 1970.

1917
https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/2656067342/

1963
https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/3923699802/

1970
https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/3837287556/

esquire · #**6548** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 3:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

I can’t help but agree. There’s development happening in 4/5 other stations that dwarf the amount of development on Osborne. How is it that 10 years after Osborne Station was built there’s still a fucking Burger King with a drive thru right next to it? Not to mention it’s surrounded by one of the biggest surface parking eyesore I’ve ever seen. No one has even touched all those damn parking lots on the east side of Donald. What the hell is happening to that building next to the station anyway? The Masonic Memorial centre can they please leave I hate seeing that stupid building every time I go down Osborne. So many questions so little answers. The only thing I don’t mind is having that additional green space on Mulvey because it will enhance the River trail quite a bit.

You can’t grade it any higher then a complete failure so far.

It's a little more complicated than that in my view. Remember, when Osborne Station was built, the SWBRT was basically a stub line that went to Jubilee before becoming a regular on-street route. So it was kind of a half baked product. We finally got the whole thing done (well, mostly - the last mile into downtown is still on street) just in time for the pandemic to play havoc with everything... a huge reduction in transit ridership, reduced numbers of new residents coming to Winnipeg, various issues with construction... it all adds up.

If the coronavirus had never happened, I could definitely see the SWBRT doing well with growing numbers of riders and the idea of redeveloping the Confusion Corner eyesores you mentioned would probably be gaining traction. Maybe there would have been an announcement by now. But the current situation has probably set things back by 5 years.

Only The Lonely.. · #**6549** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 6:12 PM**

Looks like fire has claimed the 'Morocco Club building' / Spades Nightclub.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/fire-west-end-langside-1.6336697

bomberjet · #**6550** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 6:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by davequanbury

I don't know why this type of question gets me interested enough to spend an hour staring at old maps, but from what I can tell, Wellington originally terminated at Maryland (see 1917), then was punched through to Sherbrook (see 1963, 1970), then was re-terminated at Maryland more recently than 1970.

1917
https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/2656067342/

1963
https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/3923699802/

1970
https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamaps/3837287556/

Thanks Dave! I love old maps. But haven't had the energy to do any looking. This 2 year old, I tells ya haha

So it did go through from St. James to Sherbrook. That one from 1970 just shows the ROW. I assume it was cut-off when Cumberland was built.

They all show the crossing at the railway being in place. SO maybe again around the time of Cumberland it could've been removed.

bomberjet · #**6551** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 6:54 PM**

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/ViewDoc...48&InitUrl=/DMIS/Documents/c/2021/a20968

This is the 409 Mulvey East lots.

esquire · #**6552** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 7:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Thanks Dave! I love old maps. But haven't had the energy to do any looking. This 2 year old, I tells ya haha

So it did go through from St. James to Sherbrook. That one from 1970 just shows the ROW. I assume it was cut-off when Cumberland was built.

They all show the crossing at the railway being in place. SO maybe again around the time of Cumberland it could've been removed.

Interesting, I wonder if Wellington actually did cross the tracks at one point as the 1963 map shows? If so, I stand by my theory that it would have been cut off when the new air terminal opened around that time to prevent Wellington from being used as an airport-downtown thoroughfare.

WinCitySparky · #**6553** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 9:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

Looks like fire has claimed the 'Morocco Club building' / Spades Nightclub.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/fire-west-end-langside-1.6336697

Bummer man. Hopefully long term something good rises from the ashes.

Authentic_City · #**6554** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 9:10 PM**

^that fire is a real shame. While the nightclub won’t be missed, there were several unique small businesses in that block, and it was part of the fabric of the neighbourhood. Could be a good spot for UW RenewalCorp to build something mixed use though. But those small businesses will be lost I’m sure.

BAKGUY · #**6555** Posted **Feb 4, 2022, 5:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Authentic_City

^that fire is a real shame. While the nightclub won’t be missed, there were several unique small businesses in that block, and it was part of the fabric of the neighbourhood. Could be a good spot for UW RenewalCorp to build something mixed use though. But those small businesses will be lost I’m sure.

Speak for yourself...The Night club (The Club Morocco) has been sadly missed for decades.
I was not a patron of late but a few years ago the space was well designed by an architectural firm inside the club.

WinCitySparky · #**6556** Posted **Feb 4, 2022, 5:46 PM**

Yeah even though clubs get crazy they’re still an important place for local culture and now there is one less place to get together yet again

Biff · #**6557** Posted **Feb 4, 2022, 7:36 PM**

I noticed yesterday that they have finally removed the south facing "SkyCity" advertising on it's proposed site as I was driving down Smith St.

Why take it down now?

Something upcoming???

bomberjet · #**6558** Posted **Feb 4, 2022, 7:43 PM**

I see it is no longer listed for sale on realtors. maybe it is listed somewhere else or maybe it sold?

thebasketballgeek · #**6559** Posted **Feb 4, 2022, 8:22 PM**

New proposal in Bridgwater Centre (Northeast Corner of Centre Street and
Park East Drive) which will be a 4 storey mixed-use building containing 6 commercial units, 43 hotel rooms in the second story, and 49 residential units.

While I'm at it let me provide an update to all the activity occurring in the area.

Southeast corner of Park E Dr and Centre St (U/C) 5 over 1 with 155 units and 6 commercial units.

Northwest corner of Centre St and Bison Dr (Approved) another 5 over with this time with 8 commercial units and 137 units

Finally we got a massive proposal by Prairie Architects which will develop Blocks 9, 14 and 19 on Centre Street and Bison Drive. When built out over 6 lots it will be 508 units with 31,397 sf of main floor commercial space.

So in total that's 849 new units with 43 hotel rooms and 20 commercial units (+ whatever 31,397 sq ft gets you). Not bad for the poster child of suburban sprawl.

WinCitySparky · #**6560** Posted **Feb 4, 2022, 8:34 PM**

Geez there is an absolute explosion of rental space being pounded up right now, contractors must be slobbering out every orifice