Winnipeg Construction X

[bomberjet]

Some Twitter videos.

https://twitter.com/KeninYHZ/status/1488290777943969799
https://twitter.com/jaredkistyou/status/1488267583619235842
https://twitter.com/Melkbud/status/1488283169552056327

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by Wigs

but it would be cool AF if Winnipeg was 1 Million people in the city proper

Definitely. This city needs this. And the growth needs to happen downtown. I hope it continues.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by esquire

Whooo nelly, reminds me of a similar construction blaze at an apartment building across from Grace Hospital maybe 15 years ago?

epic fire though has nothing on that fire in calgary 20yrs ago along 25ave se

[esquire]

Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

Oh btw the 4025 Roblin Blvd proposal got downsized from 10 storeys to 7 storeys so probably 50-60 less units then the 200 initially proposed. Of course I don’t think anyone was expecting it to be that tall considering it was 13 hours of NIMBYism, but 7 storeys is a compromise I’ll take 10/10 times when it comes to Charleswood.

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/ViewPdf.asp?SectionId=632608&isMobile=yes

If you are a developer wanting to put up a building outside of downtown Winnipeg, it would seem fairly prudent to apply for a few more storeys than you really need so that when the NIMBY backlash comes, you can negotiate a deal to forge ahead with your project but maybe just a few storeys shorter than initially planned. I would imagine this must be standard practice?

[thebasketballgeek]

I would go one step further and theorize it’s the councillors and public service that are recommending to these developers to build taller then originally planned to get their desired height after the NIMBY consultations. My rational for this is because if you start with a reasonable proposal you get a Wellington Crescent situation where the project gets initially rejected. Oh man you should’ve seen the meeting it was 13 hours of Charleswood residents losing their minds and Klein put on an Oscar-worthy performance.

It looks like the majority of local politicians have realized that infill is the way to go and are using these compromises to get what the developer initially wanted. I’m all for it tbh because it shows these builders that Winnipeg is open for business, and now precedents have been set for more infill in areas that have been dominated by single-family houses.

[soewnz]

Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

If we’re dreaming about an airport line why not reconnect Wellington Ave back to the existing grid?

In fact it would connect to Cumberland at HSC and there would be a possibility to run a direct transit line from Canada Life Centre to the Airport. You can get additional stops at DMCI, Central Park, Sargent Park, and Superstore at Polo. Looking to the transit master plan it would also be a perfect extension of the Donald Route. There’s even space for high density infill near Garbage Hill. So much opportunity for revitalization and development.

I like that idea too. Plus there's something I like about having a number of streets connecting things (e.g., Sargent, Ellice, Wellington, and St Matthews), rather than consolidating all of the traffic onto fewer larger streets.

I'd love to see those streets (Sargent, Ellice, etc.) get some higher density housing along them too. I live between Sargent and Ellice and I'd be happy to see some of the single family detached houses along those routes turned into something more dense, probably around 3 storeys. Although, I'm assuming the economics on those smaller infill developments are tough these days.

[esquire]

I'm not sure what exactly happened to Wellington but it seems very deliberately detached from the grid. I guess I could try looking it up but I'd wager that it was disconnected when the old air terminal was built in the 1960s to prevent Wellington from becoming a major E-W route connecting downtown and the airport... there might be some stiff resistance to changing its function after many decades as a quiet local collector. (On second thought maybe it never went all the way through? There is a small railyard near Garbage Hill/Westview Park that probably would have been busier years ago and may have been an obstacle to running Wellington through all the way from the airport to Maryland St.)

[bomberjet]

It seems it was disconnected for railway purposes. That's fairly typical. But who knows. Maybe it's a left over from when the dump was active.

[peg]

I have always loved the idea of wellington being reconnected to the grid.

I took a look at some old maps and it appears that wellington never connected with Cumberland or west of the tracks.



However, It would be cool as a direct route to the airport, but I can see why that may be an issue with the size of the road. I say reconnect it and promote infill.

Maybe the street could serve as an AT link to the airport?

[esquire]

Originally Posted by peg

I have always loved the idea of wellington being reconnected to the grid.

I took a look at some old maps and it appears that wellington never connected with Cumberland or west of the tracks.



However, It would be cool as a direct route to the airport, but I can see why that may be an issue with the size of the road. I say reconnect it and promote infill.

Maybe the street could serve as an AT link to the airport?

Interesting, thanks for looking it up.

Yeah, it's too small of a road to be turned into an airport access route for private vehicles. But it's conceivable that it could work as a transit route to the airport, if there was an express transit route to the airport using Wellington it's not like buses would have to be super frequent like the 11/21 on Portage, etc. So it wouldn't have to be overly disruptive to the neighbourhood it runs through.

AT is also a good idea, although it would probably have to be one or the other...not both. Maybe AT is a better fit, although Wellington west of Empress would be pretty dicey for on-street cycling... it would take a lot of work to make it safer to get all the way to the airport.

[bomberjet]

I assume Wellington connected to Sherbrook. And when Cumberland was cut through the nieghbourhood, again I assume, Wellington did not connect.

I feel like it's a human type thing to want to connect these roads up to complete the grid. Like a builder thing. Beaver must stop flowing water, for example.

[thebasketballgeek]

Alright y'all I'm going to need some answers.

320 Sherbrook Proposal (Lions Campus Expansion).







What's going on with this project?

Link: https://www.amphora.ca/lionscampusexpansion

[bomberjet]

Neat. I like it.

Save for the 90's ish rendering.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Neat. I like it.

Save for the 90's ish rendering.

I thought that land had been sold to a separate entity?

[Winnipegger]

Remove the green roof and replace with concrete, remove the trees and replace with nothing, remove the cool curvy roof top glass walkways and replace with a single 1970's-looking skywalk (a la Appleton Estates on Niakwa road), replace all exterior materials with beige stucco, and re-size windows to be one tenth of the current size, and you've got yourself a good old fashioned value-engineered Winnipeg project!

[Biff]

That is an old proposal.

This is their newer proposal - not sure how real it is.

[esquire]

The land is up for sale, though... the Lions must have given up on it?

[zalf]

And has been for a while, too. Since the spring, at minimum.

[cllew]

I think the Lions may have problems getting people to live at 610 Portage Ave as they are now advertising that their building is no longer a 55+ building but open to anybody.

This could be why they did not proceed with the other building and are selling the land.

[Cactus]

Neat project. https://www.amphora.ca/micro