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Old Posted Jan 14, 2022, 6:51 PM
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Not sure if this is the right place but what's the latest with the Parc Merced revamp? Is it in construction?
It has its own thread, but the last news was that it was supposed to begin in 2020:

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Old Posted Jan 15, 2022, 11:20 PM
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For those who have been following 1188 Howard Street @ 9th Street - view of the alley and a view in the window from Howard Street of the ground floor with A tiny space with bath/toilet, kitchen. I presume the bedroom is upstairs. This is not a place for an older person or one with a handicap. Imagine having to go downstairs to use the toilet! This apartment can be seen in the alley photo herewith.

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Old Posted Jan 18, 2022, 2:22 AM
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... It's in the best place for it too, near a rail line and freeways and amidst other industrial buildings. ....
Neighbor here, and do not agree regarding the location - this neighborhood has been gradually evolving away from this type of landuse for some time. As I also commented at sfyimby, it belongs further south, maybe around Islais Creek/Cesar Chavez, which probably actually has better freeway access, and would still be pretty near the 22nd St Caltrain station, if that is seen as an advantage to this project.
     
     
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Neighbor here, and do not agree regarding the location - this neighborhood has been gradually evolving away from this type of landuse for some time. As I also commented at sfyimby, it belongs further south, maybe around Islais Creek/Cesar Chavez, which probably actually has better freeway access, and would still be pretty near the 22nd St Caltrain station, if that is seen as an advantage to this project.
So NIMBY applies. Trade you an Amazon warehouse for yet another homeless shelter.
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Neighbor here, and do not agree regarding the location - this neighborhood has been gradually evolving away from this type of landuse for some time. As I also commented at sfyimby, it belongs further south, maybe around Islais Creek/Cesar Chavez, which probably actually has better freeway access, and would still be pretty near the 22nd St Caltrain station, if that is seen as an advantage to this project.
Funny enough, Amazon already has close to half a dozen, massive warehouses wedged in between Cesar Chavez and Bayshore. I imagine they're leased, but still. I agree, it's a much better location.
     
     
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Funny enough, Amazon already has close to half a dozen, massive warehouses wedged in between Cesar Chavez and Bayshore. I imagine they're leased, but still. I agree, it's a much better location.
Yeah, probably much better FiDi access as well as access to North of Market.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2022, 7:08 PM
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Nice little potential infill project.

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Cars-To-Casas Application Filed For 530 Turk Street, Tenderloin, San Francisco
BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:00 AM ON JANUARY 20, 2022

The preliminary project assessment application has been filed for an eleven-story residential infill at 530 Turk Street, located in San Francisco’s Tenderloin neighborhood. The application expects to benefit from the state density bonus and Cars-to-Casas ordinance, both programs to increase the amount of affordable housing. The property is currently used as a parking lot.

Plans for 530 Turk Street are expected to rise to be 105 feet tall, with a single story of commercial retail and some parking above ten floors of housing. The amount and sizes of apartments have not yet been established, as this project is in a preliminary stage.

The Cars to Casas ordinance was announced in October of 2021 by Mayor London Breed. The ordinance is focused on hastening the bureaucratic process, increasing allowed density, and reducing the number of lots in San Francisco which also for less than three units. The most substantial alteration is allowing four units in Residential Housing zoning district on lots that currently have auto-oriented use.

The ordinance is still pending approval at the Board of Supervisors.
https://sfyimby.com/2022/01/cars-to-casa...urk-street-tenderloin-san-francisco.html
     
     
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^^I will be very happy to see that lot developed and 555 Larkin next door finished.
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2022, 4:31 AM
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So NIMBY applies. Trade you an Amazon warehouse for yet another homeless shelter.
The warehouse site was originally planned to be a residential development with two high-rises and hundreds of housing units. Why are you talking about homeless shelters (which are good, by the way).
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2022, 6:40 AM
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Agreed. More homeless shelters, less homeless camps.

Nice pics. Seeing the skyline from the East Bay makes me think there should be another tall something to the right of Salesforce. Looks a little flat there.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2022, 6:53 AM
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The warehouse site was originally planned to be a residential development with two high-rises and hundreds of housing units. Why are you talking about homeless shelters (which are good, by the way).
The city puts all its shelters in one neighborhood: The Tenderloin and adjacent. Since you find them good, I wish the city would put the next one near you. They have created a "combat zone" by putting everything serving and attracting the homeless, mentally ill and addicted in the most powerless neighborhood where they can get away with it. It's wrong.

As for what the site of the Amazon project was "originally planned" to be, who cares? It would be that if the proposal had funding. It didn't. I think it's a perfectly acceptable place for the Amazon warehouse and I hope that gets built there soon.
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2022, 7:01 AM
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Agreed. More homeless shelters, less homeless camps.
If only that were true. There's not much evidence it is.

I am not opposed to building housing for the homeless or even being taxed to do so although I think the city's current spending for that should be adequate. But as I posted elsewhere, when asked nearly all the people currently camping on Tenderloin streets declined indoor shelter options, presumably fearing those came with unacceptable rules.

The city has now been creating all the shelter space and housing it could afford for over a decade and the numbers living on its streets has simply grown. Now that I'm spending part of my time elsewhere, every time I come back to San Francisco it seems like the squalor on the streets is worse than I remember.
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2022, 7:16 AM
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My last off-topic comment: I've been living in and around the Tenderloin for decades. It's most definitely not worse than ever. If anything it's much better than back in the day. There are no easy fixes. These things take time. At least someone's still trying.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2022, 7:27 AM
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My last off-topic comment: I've been living in and around the Tenderloin for decades. It's most definitely not worse than ever. If anything it's much better than back in the day. There are no easy fixes. These things take time. At least someone's still trying.
The sidewalks of the Tenderloin did NOT look like this until this past summer:



The Urban Alchemy folks have done quite a good job clearing up the scene south of Turk St (thanks to the city's agreement to keep the area around Hastings law school cleaned up), but the eastern parts of Ellis and Eddy especially are horrible, much worse than ever before.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2022, 12:45 AM
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Yes, when you clear out an area, all those people don't just disappear. They go to another area nearby. I walk around them too, but it's really much more their problem. I'm lucky enough to have a home to go to.

Again, no easy solutions, but at least someone out there is still trying something to help all of us.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2022, 7:21 PM
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Affordable Housing At 78 Haight Street, Hayes Valley, Aims For April Groundbreaking
BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON JANUARY 22, 2022

Construction is expected to begin in April on affordable housing at 78 Haight Street in Hayes Valley, San Francisco. The General Plan Referral, filed with the city this week, explains that the start date is imposed by the project’s construction financing package. The project, dubbed Parcel U, has been in the works since 2019 by the Tenderloin Neighborhood Development Corporation . . . .

The Project received a final recommendation for reservation for 9% and state low-income housing tax credits at the [2021 California Tax Credit Allocation Committee (TCAC)] meeting on October 20, 2021. The project must close construction financing and start construction by mid-April, 2022 to meet the tax credit award requirements. The ground lease transaction is part of this package of construction financing.

[It] will include 63 units, with “32 units for Transition Age Youth (TAY) who are homeless or at risk of homelessness, as well as a childcare center on the ground floor. Rents are set at or below 65% San Francisco Area Median Income.” The rest of the units will be affordable for families and adults with low incomes. Of the 63 units, there will be 52 studios and 11 one-bedrooms.

The 55-foot tall structure will yield approximately 44,000 square feet, with 24,350 square feet for residential use, 1,160 square feet for on-site offices, 3,630 square feet for an onsite-childcare facility, and 2,620 square feet for usable open space. Parking will be included for 20 bicycles, a figure limited by the cost of excavation, according to the project team.

The basement will include a residential services office, bicycle parking, and mechanical spaces. The ground level will contain the residential lobby and licensed childcare center. There will be two community rooms, one dedicated to the general residents, the other specialized for the TAY youth residents. The roof deck will offer common amenities and laundry.

Paulett Taggart Architects, a local firm, is responsible for the design. The ground level will be clad with board-formed concrete and floor-to-ceiling windows. The upper floors will be clad with fiber cement panels, metal shades, and protruding angular bay windows.

TS Studios is managing the landscape architecture, Luk & Associates is the civil engineer, and KPFF is the structural engineer. Guzman Construction Group and Suffolk have entered a joint venture as the project’s contractor. The project will be built to have 100% renewable energy through CleanPowerSF.

The property will stretch along Octavia Street from Haight to Rose, bound on the east side by Gough Street. The property is by the freeway exit and entrance, connecting Octavia to 101 and I-80. The project will rise between two other relatively new housing projects along Octavia Street. Across Haight street is the Stanley Saitowitz-designed 8 Octavia Condos, completed in 2014 with 37 homes by DDG Partners, a firm with several projects in New York City. Across from Rose Street, 188 Octavia was recently completed, by DM Development and Edmonds + Lee Architecture.

Construction is expected [to cost] $12 million, a figure not inclusive of the whole development price tag. A timeline for completion has not been published, though a range between early 2024 to early 2025 is not unlikely.





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https://sfyimby.com/2022/01/affordable-h...alley-aims-for-april-groundbreaking.html
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If only that were true. There's not much evidence it is.

I am not opposed to building housing for the homeless or even being taxed to do so although I think the city's current spending for that should be adequate. But as I posted elsewhere, when asked nearly all the people currently camping on Tenderloin streets declined indoor shelter options, presumably fearing those came with unacceptable rules.

The city has now been creating all the shelter space and housing it could afford for over a decade and the numbers living on its streets has simply grown. Now that I'm spending part of my time elsewhere, every time I come back to San Francisco it seems like the squalor on the streets is worse than I remember.
They shouldn't have an option. Additionally, the shelters should incorporate a bit of privacy for the individuals. It may be more expensive but if each bed was somewhat separate and had a little bit of privacy like a cubicle or even separate small rooms I would assume more would use them. People will take a tent on the street over a mass shelter because the tent provides privacy. Of course there are other issues of not wanting to leave possessions, wanting to do their drugs and pets too.
     
     
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They shouldn't have an option. Additionally, the shelters should incorporate a bit of privacy for the individuals. It may be more expensive but if each bed was somewhat separate and had a little bit of privacy like a cubicle or even separate small rooms I would assume more would use them. People will take a tent on the street over a mass shelter because the tent provides privacy. Of course there are other issues of not wanting to leave possessions, wanting to do their drugs and pets too.
So what do you think about the new infill at Haight & Octavia? I was thinking they'd NEVER build on that lot. Glad to be wrong.
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So what do you think about the new infill at Haight & Octavia? I was thinking they'd NEVER build on that lot. Glad to be wrong.
I will have to check it out when I am back in SF in February. Been in Tahoe with the work from home thing but we're back in the office on February 1st. Is is supportive housing of some sort?
     
     
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