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Old Posted Dec 24, 2021, 10:28 PM
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Yeah, I've always wondered about the rationale for this. Is there a tax break for having the property empty pre-Development phase? Or perhaps the developer can claim no/lower taxes on the site, since it no longer can be used for business as it is technically "under development ".

It really does seem a shame, in these examples and many others, that perfectly healthy businesses have to be evicted and then their location sits empty for years. Wouldn't it be beneficial to offer month-to-month leases for the un-demo'd locations, at reduced rates for whosoever is willing to take those terms?
No - the only tax break potentially available would be if the developer provides some sort of public space - like the community gardens that are sometimes provided, or a temporary public park. Then the property tax associated with the use is lower. (In those cases, the City can't do anything about losing tax - the use as a park is outright within the zoning, and the Assessment Authority decides what class the use falls within).

The only slight adjustment here will be having no assessed value for the buildings - just for the land, but 807 Seymour is assessed at $28m, and the buildings would probably have been under $100K, so the developer's income from the leases of the demolished buildings would have been far greater than any tax owed on that part of the assessment. It looks like they thought the project would sell easily (as strata office) and they were wrong about that. If that's the case, their bad advice, or expectations, are costing them a fair bit in tax, with no income - $228,000 this year.
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2021, 10:53 PM
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No - the only tax break potentially available would be if the developer provides some sort of public space - like the community gardens that are sometimes provided, or a temporary public park. Then the property tax associated with the use is lower. (In those cases, the City can't do anything about losing tax - the use as a park is outright within the zoning, and the Assessment Authority decides what class the use falls within).

The only slight adjustment here will be having no assessed value for the buildings - just for the land, but 807 Seymour is assessed at $28m, and the buildings would probably have been under $100K, so the developer's income from the leases of the demolished buildings would have been far greater than any tax owed on that part of the assessment. It looks like they thought the project would sell easily (as strata office) and they were wrong about that. If that's the case, their bad advice, or expectations, are costing them a fair bit in tax, with no income - $228,000 this year.
But might there be income tax breaks beyond the property tax breaks too? Having a building generating revenue incurs an income tax bill that an empty building or leveled lot doesn't.
     
     
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But might there be income tax breaks beyond the property tax breaks too? Having a building generating revenue incurs an income tax bill that an empty building or leveled lot doesn't.
Income tax cannot be greater than the income. It's not possible for the developer to end up with more money by foregoing revenue.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 25, 2021, 12:01 AM
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Yeah, I've always wondered about the rationale for this. Is there a tax break for having the property empty pre-Development phase? Or perhaps the developer can claim no/lower taxes on the site, since it no longer can be used for business as it is technically "under development ".

It really does seem a shame, in these examples and many others, that perfectly healthy businesses have to be evicted and then their location sits empty for years. Wouldn't it be beneficial to offer month-to-month leases for the un-demo'd locations, at reduced rates for whosoever is willing to take those terms?
Well some developers don't tear down buildings prior to development so I guess everyone has their own reasoning whether it's worth it or not for an interim demolition. They turned the City Centre motel into artist studios until they develop it

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807 Robson looks cool.
I agree and have loved the concept since it's inception. It will work well with the Granville project.

450 West Georgia on the other hand is so boring and doesn't compliment anything around but the opposite and takes away from Deloitte Tower. I wouldn't mind if the floorplate would be cut in half but the tower be made twice as tall.
     
     
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From UrbanYVR:

West Pender & Homer

2 storeys on top on the corner and a new 7 storey building to the north.


https://www.urbanyvr.com/finchs-cafe...redevelopment/


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There's a fantastic cluster of historic buildings in that area. Needs more residential density to bring those old spaces to life.
     
     
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There's a fantastic cluster of historic buildings in that area. Needs more residential density to bring those old spaces to life.
The project is for an office building, so that might add more life than a residential building. Hartney Chambers on the corner was once residential, but it's been a backpackers hostel for over 25 years, and the tiny building down the hill was the 1892 Daily World offices designed originally by Sharp & McClure. A bit more history, and links on the Changing City blog.
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The project is for an office building, so that might add more life than a residential building. Hartney Chambers on the corner was once residential, but it's been a backpackers hostel for over 25 years, and the tiny building down the hill was the 1892 Daily World offices designed originally by Sharp & McClure. A bit more history, and links on the Changing City blog.
Wow, I didn't expect that!
You can tell the Daily World Building was "modernized" maybe in the 40s or 50s to match the [now/still/former?] Vancouver Film School Building.


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Old Posted Jan 1, 2022, 6:11 AM
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534-550 Cambie Street

Nice to see this one approved.

Vancouver City Council approves 22-storey office tower near Victory Square
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/534-...tower-approved


Artistic rendering of 534-550 Cambie Street, Vancouver. (Musson Cattell Mackey Partnership/Quadreal Property Group/PC Urban)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/534-...tower-approved


Artistic rendering of 534-550 Cambie Street, Vancouver. (Musson Cattell Mackey Partnership/Quadreal Property Group/PC Urban)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/534-...tower-approved


Artistic rendering of 534-550 Cambie Street, Vancouver. (Musson Cattell Mackey Partnership/Quadreal Property Group/PC Urban)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/534-...tower-approved


Artistic rendering of 534-550 Cambie Street, Vancouver. (Musson Cattell Mackey Partnership/Quadreal Property Group/PC Urban)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/534-...tower-approved


Site of 534-550 Cambie Street, Vancouver. (Musson Cattell Mackey Partnership/Quadreal Property Group/PC Urban)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/534-...tower-approved

Note that View Cone E1, which allows for the taller half of the building, also governs height over Larwill Park and the VCC Campus.


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Compared to what Toronto has done to some of its heritage buildings, this is actually really nice.
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What about retaining the entire heritage portion and either adding only a single set-back storey, or nothing at all to the roof-top, and then regaining the lost density by having the tower portion go taller. It will look way better, and at the same time not bastardizing this heritage structure.
     
     
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What about retaining the entire heritage portion and either adding only a single set-back storey, or nothing at all to the roof-top, and then regaining the lost density by having the tower portion go taller. It will look way better, and at the same time not bastardizing this heritage structure.
Better floorplates this way.
     
     
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I love this new solution that developers have come up with where the facade of the heritage building is kept to please the NIMBYs while not letting it get in the way of meaningful development.

Really makes you think about the phrase heritage facade, though
     
     
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that is one gorgeous proposal for Vancouver by Bosa. 1700 Alberni, designed by Heatherwick.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYkIYiyPNWG/
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I was a big fan of the original design, but I mean, how can I complain about this?! Looks great, the materials as indicated are fantastic.
     
     
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Fronm Van Marr Constructors twitter Oct 22, 2021.

Villa Cathay

Completion of Phase 2 (lowrise), re-installing the Wall of 9 Dragons.


https://twitter.com/VanMarInc


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that is one gorgeous proposal for Vancouver by Bosa. 1700 Alberni, designed by Heatherwick.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYkIYiyPNWG/
If that get's built it's gonna look amazing.
     
     
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Vancouver awards $71 million contract for Coal Harbour waterfront school and social housing
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coal...ctor-vancouver

As a side note - the staggered panels have become very tired very quickly.
I prefer the flat side rather than the curved side. I think the curve accentuates the panels.
Based on the close-up rendering below, the windows are small, as the bottom half of each is a spandrel panel.


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coal...ctor-vancouver


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coal...ctor-vancouver


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coal...ctor-vancouver


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coal...ctor-vancouver


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/coal...ctor-vancouver
     
     
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