NEW YORK | 200 Greenwich - 2 WTC | 1,270 FT | 80 FLOORS | ON HOLD

[JACKinBeantown]

Anything besides BIG's stacked boxes, or any other glass box, would be acceptable at this point. Just put something up that isn't embarrassing or boring.

[skcr]

original: https://newyorkyimby.com/2020/01/nor...manhattan.html

[pj3000]

I think 2WTC should be built taller than 1WTC, and with a spire/antenna on the roof.

It will actually make the site look more organic and balanced than the incongruous and awkward assemblage of mediocre towers which exist there now.

The presence of the original towers is obviously long gone, and the opportunity to create a new statement of strength, resilience, etc. is also obviously long gone. It's pretty amazing how badly NY screwed this one up over the past 20 years... to the point that it seems that few people really even care anymore.

[Rhody]

That doesn't look like an American skyline. Not a fan at all. Feels too European with that option.

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by Rhody

That doesn't look like an American skyline. Not a fan at all. Feels too European with that option.

What the fuck does that even mean?

[pj3000]

Originally Posted by Rhody

That doesn't look like an American skyline. Not a fan at all. Feels too European with that option.

Yeah, I can't even tell if I'm looking at Manhattan or Brussels in that pic...

[pianowizard]

Originally Posted by Rhody

That doesn't look like an American skyline. Not a fan at all. Feels too European with that option.

Most would say that your state's largest city looks a lot more European.

[UpwithOlives]

Originally Posted by pj3000

Yeah, I can't even tell if I'm looking at Manhattan or Brussels in that pic...

Explains a lot...

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by ClarkeRyan

Good point. I wonder though if in hindsight Silverstein regrets not prioritizing financing for Tower 2 before he secured 3 and 4. From a symbolic and aesthetic standpoint I think it would've been nicer to have the two tallest buildings completed first and foremost, even if it meant 3 and 4 in turn became the ones put on hold for over a decade.

Originally, the Freedom Tower wasn’tvsupposed to be the first tower built, it was Tower 2. Silverstein trued to get Tower 2 built first - he felt it had the best connections to transit and the rest of Downtown. But for obvious other reasons, the governor shifted the order. I think it was the right call though.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CYRqCS-lrVS/

[skcr]

Three projects


Original from https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/07/its...de-center.html

[jd3189]

People can get annoyed by this until kingdom come, but I wished 2 WTC was a twin for 1WTC. The diamond design is alright, as well as all the others, but what made this area iconic were the two behemoths that once anchored the Lower Manhattan skyline. I appreciate 1 WTC/ Freedom Tower for at least recreating half of that, but the new completed WTC always looks like it's missing something, even with more taller buildings than before.

But either way, hopefully this can get built within this decade, at least as a symbolic gesture. It may not get all the tenants it needs but it will do its best to mend the wounds in the skyline.

[JMKeynes]

I can't see Larry building this on spec. 3 Hudson Blvd won't start without a tenant and that's in a much more desirable location.

[rgarri4]

I'm sure a new design will leak right as I post these lol.
From my 3d model.

[Drcastro]

Originally Posted by skcr

Three projects


Original from https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/07/its...de-center.html

To me this makes it obvious: just go back to Foster’s diamonds.

[BK1985]

Originally Posted by Drcastro

To me this makes it obvious: just go back to Foster’s diamonds.

What good would going back to the diamonds do if clients don’t want to lease the space as designed?

[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by rgarri4

I'm sure a new design will leak right as I post these lol.
From my 3d model.

Your work is amazing Rgarri. I hope that the rendering you worked off of is the latest design and not that heinous blob that Yimby posted.

[Rhody]

Originally Posted by pianowizard

Most would say that your state's largest city looks a lot more European.

Yes, mostly old world European, not modern commercial. It just reminds me of something like the Commerzbank tower of Frankfurt Germany, or some overly modernized and overly sophisticated corporate structure. The exterior voids just don't fit in with the new world trade grouping in MY opinion. To each their own. The previous designs were better.

[jayden]

Ugh...that Brooklyn view has always irked me.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by JMKeynes

I can't see Larry building this on spec. 3 Hudson Blvd won't start without a tenant and that's in a much more desirable location.

Different developers. There are things being built in the Hudson Yards that other developers think (or thought) are foolish. There is no one size fits all in New York. Will Larry build on spec? They’ll have to decide. But as the other WTC towers near the tipping point, the point could be moot.

[eXodius]

I'm just hoping we get something built that best represents and continues the legacy of the former WTC. In 2026, it will have been a quarter century since 9/11 yet the area is still a construction zone

If I had to go with a design, the diamonds were always the most interesting out of the other proposals. It was meant to shine precisely on the pools each anniversary, right? Everything else looks like stacked boxes