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Old Posted Dec 22, 2021, 2:38 PM
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^ It sure is.


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This building is INSANELY BEAUTIFUL!!!

This, Verre, 270 Park, and 1 Vandy are unparalleled additions to the Midtown skyline.

Anyone who loves NY has to be ELATED!!!

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This thing has such a presence, almost feels like a fake headquarters building for a movie, like Avengers or Wayne tower lol.
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And we are officially, officially done.



Is there an expected timetable for construction? Is the hotel empty now?
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2021, 5:12 PM
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Is there an expected timetable for construction? Is the hotel empty now?
The hotel ( like others in the city) reopened partially, because if a new city law requiring workers to be paid if it remained closed. It’s expected to remain open for the next year, but that’s a very fluid situation. Wouldn’t surprise me if it closed sooner.
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This is massive for the city and the country.

This building is going to be 200' taller than the Twin Towers. And it has bulk, unlike the 57th Street towers.

That's just mind-blowing to think about.

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Right after the approval of 41-47 West 57th Street!

The Skyscraper Santa has been very generous this year.

Anyways, tallest to the roof in NYC is a big deal!
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This is massive for the city and the country.

This building is going to be 200' taller than the Twin Towers. And it has bulk, unlike the 57th Street towers.

That's just mind-blowing to think about.

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In the rendering, look at Grand Hyatt compared to One Vandy. Bulk is an understatement on this. Will be a monolith.
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Hol’ up, where’s Tower Fifth, 343 Madison, 417 Madison and 350 Park? They haven’t been in the renderings for a while now…
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The developers unveiled plans in February for a 1,600-foot-tall office and hotel tower, which would surpass Extell Development’s 1,550-foot Central Park Tower as one of the city’s tallest buildings, second only to One World Trade Center.

The size of the development has been cut slightly, according to Bloomberg. The tower is still expected to be 1,575 feet tall, slightly down from its original proposed height of 1,646 feet.

Now that the project can move on, Bloomberg reported the developers will begin seeking construction financing necessary to redevelop the property, as well as looking for potential tenants. They hope to begin demolishing the existing site beginning in 2023.
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Hol’ up, where’s Tower Fifth, 343 Madison, 417 Madison and 350 Park? They haven’t been in the renderings for a while now…
Dude, those are proposals from other entities that the developer of 175 Park, or any media covering the development of 175 Park, has any obligation, possible legal right, and/or likely interest in showing when they have no reason to. The vast majority of the general public and even a sizable amount of people in the industry have no knowledge of or need to represent those proposals in the background of a story about 175 Park Avenue. Their absense in a graphic has absolutely nothing to do with their individual status.
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^ We’re actually lucky when we get an actual rendering with other unbuilt projects in it. In this case, 270 Park is already under construction. And even then, its just a representation of that tower. Buildings that haven’t even gone through approvals shouldn’t be thrown in official renderings anyway. Don’t jinx it.
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That Bloomberg rendering is a very interesting new look for this building. IMO the reduced density of both the number of columns and the number of setbacks gives the illusion of a much smaller, less imposing building.

I am guessing (hoping!) that this is an early iteration, as the changed number of columns would also mean a significant change to the fanning lobby design, which has just been through such a strenuous approval process.
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That Bloomberg rendering is a very interesting new look for this building. IMO the reduced density of both the number of columns and the number of setbacks gives the illusion of a much smaller, less imposing building.

I am guessing (hoping!) that this is an early iteration, as the changed number of columns would also mean a significant change to the fanning lobby design, which has just been through such a strenuous approval process.

What do you mean reduced setbacks? The entire building isn’t visible.


They’re just renderings (and that isn’t a final one), but the top setback is still equal to about the height of Vanderbilt’s deck…







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I meant the reduced density of setbacks, in the visible protion. If you judge by comparing to One Vanderbilt and Chrysler, the space between the last two setbacks on Commodore is clearly a much larger proportion of the overall height.
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I love the new cross-bracing between the setbacks.

Also, I wonder if this will now be bronze in color.

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Also, I wonder if this will now be bronze in color.
Pretty confidant that's just the sun. No base renderings have hinted at anything other than a silver/putty color.
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I love the new cross-bracing between the setbacks.

Also, I wonder if this will now be bronze in color.

This is actually quite a marked change as I'm just now noticing that the vertical fins have been reduced, going from 10 to 6 in the top segment, as well as the introduction of the cross-bracing between each segment, which as I speculated months ago will in fact be 4 segments as some of the massing diagrams hinted, not 5. The reduced vertical fins also are by definition simplifying the crown. I'm a bit torn which version I liked better.
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What do you mean reduced setbacks? The entire building isn’t visible.
As far as this new (old?) goldy rendering is concerned Xing and I are correct. It may not show the whole building but this clearly shows a tower with 4 segments not 5.
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