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^^I just read this. Dude sounds fucking clueless honestly. Hasn't lived in the area since 1973 and bought a house in Quakertown? About as far out in the Philadelphia Region as you can go.

Dude has no clue what he's talking about and probably hasn't been in Philadelphia in any meaningful capacity since the 70s. Comparing Philly to NYC again? It's absurdity. Of course Metlife has more corporate presence than Lincoln Financial you jackass... NYC is 8 times bigger.

You're part of the problem that Philadelphia has Jim Cramer. You're part of the problem because you compare Philly to NYC and not it's true peers: Boston, DC, San Francisco, Miami, Houston, Dallas and Atlanta. You talk all of this shit on the city of Philadelphia like you know it but you actually know nothing about it because you haven't spent any meaningful time in Philadelphia in the past 20 years.

Large parts of the city ARE being redeveloped. Large swaths of warehouses ARE being redeveloped. I think I lost some brain cells reading that.
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2021, 6:23 PM
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^^I just read this. Dude sounds fucking clueless honestly. Hasn't lived in the area since 1973 and bought a house in Quakertown? About as far out in the Philadelphia Region as you can go.

Dude has no clue what he's talking about and probably hasn't been in Philadelphia in any meaningful capacity since the 70s. Comparing Philly to NYC again? It's absurdity. Of course Metlife has more corporate presence than Lincoln Financial you jackass... NYC is 8 times bigger.

You're part of the problem that Philadelphia has Jim Cramer. You're part of the problem because you compare Philly to NYC and not it's true peers: Boston, DC, San Francisco, Miami, Houston, Dallas and Atlanta. You talk all of this shit on the city of Philadelphia like you know it but you actually know nothing about it because you haven't spent any meaningful time in Philadelphia in the past 20 years.

Large parts of the city ARE being redeveloped. Large swaths of warehouses ARE being redeveloped. I think I lost some brain cells reading that.
At least it wasn't just me, lol. I tried not showing frustration in my post, but I feel the same.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2021, 8:19 PM
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While he made a good point or 2, most I largely disagree with. Is Philadelphia really viewed a city & region in destitute? The economy is strong (on par with other large cities/regions), its a wealthier region than Dallas, Atlanta, etc.,
Yes, the city has a lot of problem, but it's not as if other major cities aren't dealing with the same problems (just less severe). Also tired of the constant comparisons to New York, maybe that has something to do with the skewed views...
I feel like if Philadelphia were located anywhere else, people would not make the same comments. See Q&A below.

JIM CRAMER COMES HOME
And he’s not happy about some of the issues holding Philadelphia back


https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...comes-home-the-cnbc-host-sounds-off.html

On what is holding Philadelphia back economically
JC: I think that the infrastructure, it seems like it’s seen better days. I think that people think that taxes are just too high. I think that there are a lot of people who still don’t seem to get it. One of the things that was just really horrible is when Amazon didn’t choose Philadelphia. That would have been just such a great thing. The city doesn’t seem to be good at making a case that you should put your headquarters there, despite the fact that the colleges are great, the suburban schools are great, the inner city schools … Listen, I live in Brooklyn and we all decided our schools were going to be good, our public schools, and we do fundraisers for them. But we’re lucky because we’ve got this nice mixture of people who have really good jobs and people who deserve really good jobs but haven’t been able to find them.
I just think that there isn’t enough money around in Philadelphia.

Obviously, the colleges are fantastic. But the main businesses are service. There’s no manufacturing, and that went away a long time ago. But they never cleaned up the aging factories. The city needs to get its act together, clear big stretches of land, clean it up and then offer it to Prologis. Even if it’s just warehouse. It’s just got to be less dangerous.
The city deserves better and doesn’t get it. I can’t believe the city can’t woo some of these great companies to come to Philadelphia. But you know, the tax base isn’t there. It’s really just sad. When you go to Lincoln Financial Field and you walk around the luxury box area and you look at the different nameplates, there’s just no big companies. When you go to Giants Stadium, it’s all corporate.
I just don’t understand. You’ve got the Comcast building in that area and you go west. Think about all the great hospitals you have and all the great services. I have to blame the government and the infrastructure. Because I just can’t think of a better place to have to build a company. It is such a remarkable town. It’s just so painful to see that. And all these things cut in favor of the executive class not knowing how fantastic Philadelphia is.

On why people are hesitant to come to Philadelphia
JC: I think people are intimidated by it. I was looking to buy some land near Temple University – not far from where my mom was from. My mom was from Broad and Lindley. So, then I went to look at her house. My wife does real estate and she said, look, the house just doesn’t have the infrastructure. It’s just too hard to rebuild. And I said, God, it was such a great area. I always think that if you could put like 50 people together, you could go rebuild parts of Philadelphia like the La Salle area. My mom was from Olney, she went to Germantown High, and I would love to have the capital to help rebuild those fabulous areas. And, you know, keep everybody who lives there and then bring in new people. But it’s just not happening. Temple University has done a great job, and I’m sure there are people in town who think that Temple University is an interloper that’s taking people’s homes. And that’s a shame and that’s got to be helped, too. You can’t kick people out of their homes, but you do want to make their homes better for them.

When I went to see my mom’s place, I took my wife there and I said, look, could we do it? Do you think we could do it? And then she reminded me of when I wanted to do over my dad’s place when he died. He had this beautiful place at 3rd and Arch, and it was too expensive. I was afraid of the unions and how much it would cost me. I felt like I had to be down there all the time. And the next-door neighbor bought it and really made it into a great place. I wanted to develop it, but I was over my head, over my head in Philadelphia. I find a lot of people feel they’re over their heads. You’re worried. Did I do the right thing with the unions? Did I not do the right thing? And look, I’m not anti-union. I’m a member of two different unions. I’m just baffled by how to do things in Philadelphia. And I’ve got to say I’ve done enough projects in my life that for me to say I’m baffled means that it is baffling, and it’s nobody’s fault. It’s kind of like the supply chain problem out in California – it’s really hard to figure out who’s at fault. But I know when I wanted to redo this property in Philadelphia, I said there’s just too many question marks versus doing stuff I do in Brooklyn. Brooklyn is much easier than Philadelphia.
This is just one big "OK Boomer" to me. Maybe people his age--especially those who haven't been to the city, or outside of Center City, in a long time--are intimidated by the city, but I don't know many people my age (26) who are. My fiancee and I are approaching the point in our lives where we're ready to buy a house. When talking about neighborhoods with people my age, the number of them who are considering buying in Germantown, West Oak Lane, Cobbs Creek, and Kingsessing, among others, would blow the minds of those who haven't had a chance to take in the energy encapsulating this city.

Also, I believe that the issue with schools is valid but overblown. The Philadelphia School District was much worse in the 2000s, while I was growing up in the city; however, many schools across the city have made consistent progress. In fact, we're focusing in on the Northwest due to the strength of the schools up there. The fact is that, nowadays, a child in Philadelphia can attend a school that performs just as well as schools in the neighboring townships, but at a discount via lower taxes.

This is a gloom-and-doom take on a city and region that have been demonstrably outperforming other cities and regions within its tier. Sure, Philly has its problems, but it is not a city in decline any longer.
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2021, 9:58 PM
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New 5-story 33-unit apartment building coming to Chestnut Hill at Bethlehem Pike and Summit Street



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That was so incoherent and rife with tired stereotypes, I think he's been completely sucked into the black hole of New York elitism and Wall Street excess.

Plenty of NY investors have managed to see the value of Philadelphia, as we all know, but yet a Philly-area native still has to be "convinced" that the city is "worthy" of his investment.

Very asinine and disappointing to read.
     
     
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New 5-story 33-unit apartment building coming to Chestnut Hill at Bethlehem Pike and Summit Street



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While one could argue about aesthetic revisions, the other arguments are laughable. Build the darn thing.

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That was so incoherent and rife with tired stereotypes, I think he's been completely sucked into the black hole of New York elitism and Wall Street excess.

Plenty of NY investors have managed to see the value of Philadelphia, as we all know, but yet a Philly-area native still has to be "convinced" that the city is "worthy" of his investment.

Very asinine and disappointing to read.
Agreed. I wish PBJ didn't blast that on their front page.
     
     
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Im not even familiar with the silver line proposal but as of right now top big $$ priorities are KOP and new trolleys. There is not funding for either and KOP can only happen if they win the necessary federal new start grant that will cover 50% of the cost. Actually, thats not even fully accurate because I don't believe there is a plan in place for the local match. Trolley modernization also has major price tag associated due to new rolling stock, new maintenance facility and ROW upgrade costs.
I believe it is the plan to run trains at 15 minute headways within the city and move away from commuter rail. If they did that then reopening stations like 9th and girard would make sense because it opens RR to nolibs and fishtown and the many potential riders that live there.


I am aware SEPTA doesn't have the cash for a big capital project but that makes me that much more jaded that they have been spending tens and tens of millions on contract and design work for KOP rail instead of doing something like buying the lot they wanted for trolley modernization that ended up going to Amazon
     
     
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I believe it is the plan to run trains at 15 minute headways within the city and move away from commuter rail.
That's their plan by 2050 (seriously), so might as well not be a plan at all unfortunately.
     
     
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30th and Chestnut parking lot. 500k SF. Unclear what it'll look like. Construction stat Q4 2022.
     
     
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Where? The Bulletin Building?
"…signed a 99-year ground lease on a surface parking lot at 30th and Chestnut streets. "

That's the long ago Abbotts Dairy site, which had occupied the entire block. There's still a low section of granite wall remaining, although I think partially obscured by a lower wall PennDOT built along that stretch with the bridge reconstruction project.

2017 Streetview of wall: https://goo.gl/maps/8nDUs6NQba9araFa9
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That was a planned Schuylkill Yards site originally, no?
One less place that they can build tall now, which (might) mean they have to build taller elsewhere to compensate.
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That was a planned Schuylkill Yards site originally, no?
One less place that they can build tall now, which (might) mean they have to build taller elsewhere to compensate.
Although it's not clear whether they're leasing the entire block, which could conceivably accommodate two sizable structures. I see Drexel is listed as the owner of the whole lot, from 30th to 31st. I guess it will all become clearer when they make the announcement.
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Wait.

Did Jim Cramer move from Brooklyn to Quakertown and now he's complaining the taxes are too high? His combined city state went from 10%+ to 3.08%.

Anyways. NYC has good public schools for lots of reasons. For one (among many), the state funds (all) schools at a much higher level than PA. Secondly, there are obscene numbers of rich people in NYC and they demand good schools. As our neighborhoods improve, the schools will get better. You're seeing it already, but yes we have a long long way to go. Three, we have a plethora of excellent high schools in Philadelphia already.

Anyways. He's a chode.

I doubt he even moved to Quakertown in reality. It's probably just a tax dodge or him setting up a permanent presence in PA so that he can pull a Dr Oz or something. His family is probably still ensconced in Brooklyn.
     
     
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Good news! More train stations are always good.
FWIW, it's not supposed to return as a stop. Which I think is ok given the location.

I love to see rail history preserved, especially something as old as this one.
     
     
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As our neighborhoods improve, the schools will get better. You're seeing it already, but yes we have a long long way to go. Three, we have a plethora of excellent high schools in Philadelphia already.
This is precisely why my fiancee and I are looking to buy in the Northwest: the homes are affordable, the green space is unmatched, and the schools are actually pretty good up there! We're not ready to have kids just yet, but when we get there, they'll have a good school to attend. Cook-Wissahickon, Shawmont, Dobson, Henry, and a few others are just as good as suburban schools, but come with much lower taxes than if we were to move to Montco (not that I ever want to live in the suburbs).
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