Speech pattern and typographical variations across Canada - Page 215

Loco101 · #**4281** Posted **Oct 22, 2021, 3:06 AM**

One local (possibly somewhat regional) saying that you will hear in Timmins from people who speak English, French or both is "bye bye là"

It's used in a situation when a person wants someone or a group of people to leave because of being annoying, rude or excessive. Sort of a more polite way of saying "get out of here" or "F*** Off."

Loco101 · #**4282** Posted **Oct 22, 2021, 3:27 AM**

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Eavestroughs is probably the more common word around these parts, although everyone certainly knows what someone saying 'gutters' means.

Chips for French Fries is seldom used here and only in certain contexts, i.e. Fish and Chips, chip truck, etc. It tends to be very old people (80+) who say chips that way, at least in my experience.

I haven't heard "chips" used in Timmins since the late 1980s. And I think that it was a pretty sudden change. But we do still have chip stands (or chipstands as they are sometimes one word) which is the term I hear most whether it is a truck, bus or small building. I believe the term is used throughout most of Northern Ontario. The closest chip stand to me is The Chip Hut which I go to once or twice a year.

Something else related to fries in Timmins is how you pronounce "poutine." Here you have to pronounce it the proper way like you hear in French or else you will get strange looks.

Acajack · #**4283** Posted **Oct 22, 2021, 9:16 AM**

In Ottawa it is weird.

When speaking English you get lots of anglophones or allophones who say it the proper French way "poo-tzin", but then bizarrely you also have Franco-Ontariens who will say "poooo-teen" if they are speaking English.

lio45 · #**4284** Posted **Oct 22, 2021, 10:23 AM**

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Oops, you're right.

I've never heard anyone in Canada say "on the dole," but a quick Google search suggests that my impression that it's unknown here might not be accurate.

https://www.google.com/search?q=canada+%...PCAIQ8NMDegQIARBJ&biw=1796&bih=977&dpr=1

Let’s keep in mind that Canada includes parts that were purely British until 1949. It’s normal that these parts would still be a bit distinct (vocabulary/expressions-wise), a mere couple generations later, from “mainstream” Canada (a.k.a. Southern Ontario).

VANRIDERFAN · #**4285** Posted **Oct 22, 2021, 2:46 PM**

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Someone once told me that terms for being drunk like sloshed or pissed were Britishisms.

When Americans say someone is pissed it means they're angry. It's a short form of pissed off.

I think that "pissed" probably can have both meanings in Canada these days.

Also, is "shafting" someone a Britishism? I.e. screwing someone over?

What about "bugger all"? (As in absolutely nothing.)

I've used all those sayings in my day to day interactions.

someone123 · #**4286** Posted **Oct 22, 2021, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by lio45

Let’s keep in mind that Canada includes parts that were purely British until 1949. It’s normal that these parts would still be a bit distinct (vocabulary/expressions-wise), a mere couple generations later, from “mainstream” Canada (a.k.a. Southern Ontario).

This is a bit of an odd way of looking at it and doesn't align much with the facts on the ground. There isn't necessarily a big difference linguistically between Western NL and Cape Breton (I wonder if most non-Atlantic SSPers could tell the difference) and they're definitely closer to each other than either one is to Southern Ontario. Yet Cape Breton was a part of Canada in 1867 and NL 1949.

In 1940's NL there was arguably much more influence from American military personnel than UK. It may have nominally been controlled by Britain but it was still in North America.

In the modern era with the decline of rural living (any distance between people) and the expansion of standardized audio media, variety of accents seems to have been declining all around NA. The opposite of these conditions is what allowed a variety of language to exist before.

megadude · #**4287** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:18 AM**

I think this accent is pretty much as stereotypically Canadian someone can be without being a hoser or a caricature. I like his content, and he's as likeable of a guy you'll ever see, but I find his accent cringey.

https://www.tiktok.com/@chacebarber/vide...ice=pc&sender_web_id=7007198438547719686

And this guy keeps providing more hockey comedic gold. Overhearing hockey bros talking would be even more cringey to listen to in real life.

https://www.tiktok.com/@neemanaz/video/7...47719686&is_from_webapp=v1&is_copy_url=0

Acajack · #**4288** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 4:38 AM**

Anyone else notice y'all gaining a bit of traction in Canadian English? I have been wondering about this for a while and recently got my 3rd example of repeat use. Three people from very different horizons too.

north 42 · #**4289** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 1:34 PM**

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Anyone else notice y'all gaining a bit of traction in Canadian English? I have been wondering about this for a while and recently got my 3rd example of repeat use. Three people from very different horizons too.

I’ve noticed this trend as well, and find it kind of annoying to be honest.

jonny24 · #**4290** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Anyone else notice y'all gaining a bit of traction in Canadian English? I have been wondering about this for a while and recently got my 3rd example of repeat use. Three people from very different horizons too.

I use it a lot for sure, but I feel like I always have so don't know where it came from exactly.

All my aunts and uncle say "youse" instead

north 42 · #**4291** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 1:39 PM**

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I use it a lot for sure, but I feel like I always have so don't know where it came from exactly.

All my aunts and uncle say "youse" instead

I had some friends that said youse as well, always sounded very weird to me.

MonctonRad · #**4292** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 1:50 PM**

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I had some friends that said youse as well, always sounded very weird to me.

Youse is fairly common on PEI, but I tend to consider it a signal that the speaker is from rural PEI, most commonly of Irish origin (Irish ancestry on PEI is extremely common, especially in rural areas).

Proof Sheet · #**4293** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 1:57 PM**

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I had some friends that said youse as well, always sounded very weird to me.

Youse drives me up the wall. Same with y'all. I do find scottish people of varying social and education groups use it quite a lot.

north 42 · #**4294** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:02 PM**

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Youse drives me up the wall. Same with y'all. I do find scottish people of varying social and education groups use it quite a lot.

That’s funny you say that, my friend that I had in mind when posting that was of Scottish background. Didn’t know it was a Scottish thing.

north 42 · #**4295** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:04 PM**

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Youse is fairly common on PEI, but I tend to consider it a signal that the speaker is from rural PEI, most commonly of Irish origin (Irish ancestry on PEI is extremely common, especially in rural areas).

I’ve only knew a few people that used that word, and they were all very working class, so I thought that was the reason they spoke like that.

Acajack · #**4296** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:23 PM**

I'd heard y'all from Canadians before, but until very recently it was always in a joking way, making fun of US Southerners. But these days it's not used to mock Americans. I have also noticed that it's migrated north in the US in recent years and decades. So maybe it was just a question of time before it crossed the border.

I've heard youse before as well, in various regions of Canada - it's clearly more common than y'all in Canada at present I am pretty sure.

MonctonRad · #**4297** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:29 PM**

I detest y'all..........

To me it is associated with illiterate backwoods southern Trumpians and should in no way ever infiltrate Canadian speech. What exactly are you trying to prove by saying "y'all". This is nothing to celebrate.

JHikka · #**4298** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:35 PM**

I've been using y'all more recently. I think it's just cultural seep from social media and pop culture.

kwoldtimer · #**4299** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Anyone else notice y'all gaining a bit of traction in Canadian English? I have been wondering about this for a while and recently got my 3rd example of repeat use. Three people from very different horizons too.

It seems to have caught on in social media, at least, so it's probably infiltrating spoken English as well. I haven't seen "all y'all" in Canada yet, fortunately.

MonctonRad · #**4300** Posted **Dec 8, 2021, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

I've been using y'all more recently. I think it's just cultural seep from social media and pop culture.

Seepage??? You mean like from the sewers????