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[left of center]

Originally Posted by Gedung Tinngi

Well...each other proposals is...certainly less than ideal.

Wishing they could take the 78 proposal and flip it to the west bank of the river.
It would be fantastic to build over the Amtrak rail yard - long an eye-sore.

Do to that rail yard what Millennium Park did by covering up the tracks in the park - reclaim that area into the fabric of the city.

You could even build a direct highway extension above the train lines behind Pacific Gardens and the UPS site going right into the either Canal or the casino parking lot.
Would solve some traffic flow/access issues the current 78 proposal fails to address.

The casino, park, and hotel would also have far better views of the skyline.

Yes, I know this will not happen, but it would be a nice dream.

This would absolutely be ideal, but your biggest problem here wouldn't even be the costs associated with such a project (and they would be quite onerous), but rather securing the air rights from Meta/Amtrak/BNSF. I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell that would happen without a lot of political pressure from the city and/or state, especially with the massive empty parcel of land right across the river. If the 78 was already mostly built out (as well as many of the other empty land parcels near the central area), then there would definitely be a stronger case for the need to build over the railyard.

[jpIllInoIs]

Originally Posted by Gedung Tinngi

Well...each other proposals is...certainly less than ideal.

Wishing they could take the 78 proposal and flip it to the west bank of the river.
It would be fantastic to build over the Amtrak rail yard - long an eye-sore.

Do to that rail yard what Millennium Park did by covering up the tracks in the park - reclaim that area into the fabric of the city.

You could even build a direct highway extension above the train lines behind Pacific Gardens and the UPS site going right into the either Canal or the casino parking lot.
Would solve some traffic flow/access issues the current 78 proposal fails to address.

The casino, park, and hotel would also have far better views of the skyline.

Yes, I know this will not happen, but it would be a nice dream.

Nice dream or Pipe dream??

[nomarandlee]

Originally Posted by ardecila

I think they could add ramps off the Ohio Feeder fairly easily to address traffic, the same way Brendan Kelleher added ramps off LSD for the Chicago Spire. Zooming out a bit, Lincoln Yards will also build a N-S Halsted alternative when they build the Dominick bridge.

Also, if we're gonna draw a line in the sand and say the traffic is too bad, then that also rules out any kind of mixed-use development on the Tribune site as well. The site is really very close to the Blue Line and the city has a good plan to build a transitway as well. Why are we letting traffic be the deciding factor here when there are clearly alternatives? Anybody who sits in traffic on Halsted is an idiot when CTA already provides plenty of alternatives and will provide even more in the future.

However, we need to be realistic. I think the aim is to draw a good deal of suburbanites and out-of-towners to the casino, those who are PT averse. Plus, I'll see it when I believe it regarding the city actually building out the Lincoln Yards transitway. It makes all the sense in the world, but completely new PT lines seem like a hard time coming in this town.

Perhaps the transitway could be worked by having on/off ramps onto the feeder looks like a bug of an eyesore with rather tight logistics to make it work.

I just think that the PT AND potential auto access is superior to all the sites other than the Tribune site.

[r18tdi]

There's a community meeting to discuss all five proposals scheduled on Dec. 16 from 1 p.m. to 8 p.m.(!)
https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city...%20Presentations%20Save%20the%20Date.pdf

[ithakas]

Originally Posted by r18tdi

There's a community meeting to discuss all five proposals scheduled on Dec. 16 from 1 p.m. to 8 p.m.(!)
https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city...%20Presentations%20Save%20the%20Date.pdf

Who among us working stiffs isn't available to take half a workday off the week before Christmas?

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by ithakas

Who among us working stiffs isn't available to take half a workday off the week before Christmas?

not only does it conflict with work, but it conflicts with my HOA annual meeting too!

[west-town-brad]

Ballys is running ads on TV for their proposal

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by ithakas

Who among us working stiffs isn't available to take half a workday off the week before Christmas?

I just signed up.

[rgarri4]

From my model. Animation coming soon.

[jpIllInoIs]

^ As always Im thankful for contributors like Rigarri4, Solar, HarryC and other regular posters.

[Geographer]

Why is Chicago planning only one casino?

[Steely Dan]

^ the state is only granting the city one casino license.

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

^ the state is only granting the city one casino license.

As it should. As much as I love this development (specifically the 78 on the river design) I would never want Chicago to become Las Vegas. Nor NYC, or LA, or whatever city. There's a place for things, and if you're willing to gamble thousands in a casino you can pay for a plane ticket to Vegas.

[Flaccer05]

More in the fwiw category but Bally's appears to be upping their PR game. They had a couple prime time commercials during 60 minutes slot in the Chicago market tonight. Could just be par for the course but I thought it was interesting considering public perception probably has limited impact on the selection process.

[bnk]

Originally Posted by Flaccer05

More in the fwiw category but Bally's appears to be upping their PR game. They had a couple prime time commercials during 60 minutes slot in the Chicago market tonight. Could just be par for the course but I thought it was interesting considering public perception probably has limited impact on the selection process.

Do you have a link to these PR buys. Last time it was mentioned I went to Youtube and Ballys site and I found nothing.

[Flaccer05]

Originally Posted by bnk

Do you have a link to these PR buys. Last time it was mentioned I went to Youtube and Ballys site and I found nothing.

I was prepping dinner and unfortunately didn't catch the link. DVR wouldn't let me rewind but it was NOT the generic www.ballys.com/chicago/ so could contain some new info if someone happened to catch it

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by Flaccer05

More in the fwiw category but Bally's appears to be upping their PR game. They had a couple prime time commercials during 60 minutes slot in the Chicago market tonight. Could just be par for the course but I thought it was interesting considering public perception probably has limited impact on the selection process.

I saw several Bally's ads during the college football games I was watching on Saturday... So yes, they're definitely stepping up their PR game. Perhaps it's that they know they're the underdogs right now?

Aaron (Glowrock)

[Klippenstein]

Chicago casino presentation stating now.

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/mayor/iframe/live.html

[galleyfox]

Rivers McCormick proposal

The crux of their argument is that the casino will cover the shortfalls of the MPEA

-12 month construction, no temporary casino
-Pay for McCormick Place deferred maintenance- $400-600 Million
-Annual occupancy fee - $15 Million
-Use taxpayer-subsidized MPEA hotels to ensure year-round occupancy

Rush Street Gaming
Farpoint Development
Jahn Architects

Hard Rock/One Central proposal

-Adjacent to Tourist Areas
-Transportation
-One Central will directly fund the buildout for the casino regardless of the outcome of the state funding

Rivers 78

First proposal to have rendered 3D walkthroughs of the interior and the exterior.

Interesting look for the interior. Macau meets Barcelona??

[Kngkyle]

Related is crushing it.