Canadian City Proposals

[TorontoDrew]

That Amsterdam building looks like such a mistake. Talk about blocking off the waterfront.

Some great news for the city of Toronto. The cities design review panel have given 55 Yonge the green light with only minor recommendations about the street level. Pretty much just suggesting they setback the glass and allow for a pedestrian arcade under the arches.


source: urbantoronto.ca

[MonkeyRonin]

Atrium Tower - 34 storeys / 114m




https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2021/11/kin...ni-designed-atrium-bay-residential-tower



619 Yonge St. - 57 storeys / 191m




https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2021/11/edenshaw-resubmits-plans-yonge-and-isabella-project

[hipster duck]

Atrium tower: Good. I wouldn't want to live there, though.

619 Yonge: Pastiche of clashing styles. Although, on the bright side, if Toronto keeps on building enough of these it'll be our "style".

[JHikka]

Really don't like 619 Yonge but i'm willing to be surprised.

Atrium is fine but, yeah, wouldn't want to live at Yonge & Dundas.

55 Yonge is promising but really depends on the materials to come through.

[esquire]

55 Yonge makes the ones beneath look a bit dated. Atrium is nice, but 619 Yonge is a mess.

[Biff]

619 - how many facade styles can an architect get on one building?

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Biff

619 - how many facade styles can an architect get on one building?

Did you not see the Amsterdam building on the last page? It's like a medley of cheap 60s-80s office buildings.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9459204&postcount=17033

[MonkeyRonin]

Originally Posted by hipster duck

Atrium tower: Good. I wouldn't want to live there, though.

619 Yonge: Pastiche of clashing styles. Although, on the bright side, if Toronto keeps on building enough of these it'll be our "style".

619 is a hodgepodge for sure. I like the massing though - there are a few other towers on Yonge that are making use of setbacks. Gives it a bit more articulation than the typical banded-balcony box. With some refinement into a more coherent vision it could end up half-decent.

I'm sure Atrium will be filled with Ryerson students with well-to-do parents paying for their apartments.

Originally Posted by JHikka

55 Yonge is promising but really depends on the materials to come through.

This could be said of any building. The materials at least seem to be pretty clearly defined from the renders - and I'm confident in the execution given a competent architect's ability to properly specify & detail.

I'm more worried that this is far from the final design and that it'll go through the inevitable process of being value-engineered to where we end up with a G+C spandrel box.

[TorontoDrew]

Lets hope not.


from urbantoronto.ca

[ssiguy]

I really like the Atrium proposal but the 619 Yonge one is an abomination.

[905er]

55 Yonge st. proposal is absolutely stunning!!!!

[TorontoDrew]

I feel like 519 Yonge is just a really early massing and not a final design.

[TorontoDrew]

source: urbantoronto.ca



I just noticed a mistake in the render. Can anybody else spot it? Hint, yes it's on the tower.

[drizzo_613]

is it the trees sticking out through the windows on left side?

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

source: urbantoronto.ca



I just noticed a mistake in the render. Can anybody else spot it? Hint, yes it's on the tower.

[quall]

Originally Posted by drizzo_613

is it the trees sticking out through the windows on left side?

I think that section is open-air

[O-tacular]

55 Yonge looks great until you cover up the swoopy spire. Imagine seeing it from an angle where the top looks blunt..

[WhipperSnapper]

55 Yonge is okay. I can't believe planning is forcing another colonade. If there's not enough space on the sidewalk than get the developer to reduce the girth and provide more space. I would prefer a podium with a similar sized floor plate as the rest of the tower. I think a transition between podium and tower mimicing the transition between tower and penthouse would look better than the wedding cake.

Atrium Tower. The end product is alright. How they got to it is insanity. It literally is encapsulating a media tower! Density overkill and it's a freaking media tower!

The other one is a mess. It's like a recent Kitchener proposal. The larger scale makes it even worse.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

55 Yonge is okay. I can't believe planning is forcing another colonade. If there's not enough space on the sidewalk than get the developer to reduce the girth and provide more space.

Orrrrr lengthen the pedestrian Yonge St plans from Carlton-Queen to well south of that.

[WhipperSnapper]

The developer can give some concession too. let's get them working for the city instead of the other way around. The tower would look taller and taller is better.. Yonge is a pedestrian oriented street. It is a great candidate for lane reductions. At the same time, enough with the lane reductions. I'm a pedestrian. I'm a cyclist. I'm an occasionally driver. I accept most of Toronto is auto dependent. Our transit system isn't on par with the Paris metro. Our transit system relies heavily on free flowing surface routes. It's another clusterfuck what these inner city councillors have done. Take a page from Vancouver. In some fashion, they identify streets as pedestrian, vehicular and, transit oriented. They don't do lane reductions on every street and, most importantly, heavy vehicular routes .

There are bus routes in my neighoburhood everyone now avoids with the introduction of bike lanes. It's not the bike lanes themselves. It's the design of street. They have a right turn lane instead of a left turn lane at signalled, busy intersection which would allow the single lane of traffic to move while someone is waiting to make a left turn. This isn't oversight either. It's intentional anti car sentiments. I know the councillor well. Left turn lanes are far more common than right turn lanes.

[niwell]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

There are bus routes in my neighoburhood everyone now avoids with the introduction of bike lanes. It's not the bike lanes themselves. It's the design of street. They have a right turn lane instead of a left turn lane at signalled, busy intersection which would allow the single lane of traffic to move while someone is waiting to make a left turn. This isn't oversight either. It's intentional anti car sentiments. I know the councillor well. Left turn lanes are far more common than right turn lanes.

I'm very pro separated bike lane and generally pro lane reduction but yeah, we really need to get better at street design. The omission of left turn lanes on many streets is a huge one. Also the reason that the Bloor St. redesign (bike lane safety aside) hasn't really been that bad a driving experience. Harbord and Wellesley also generally work for this reason. I live right on Parkside and have been following / semi-involved in the push to make the street safer - lane removals, permanent bike lanes with the introduction of turning lanes would do wonders. Every time I make a left turn onto the side street next to our place I feel like I'm going to get rear-ended right now.

Somewhat ironically, a slow but steady moving street is probably safer than one where someone gets stuck behind a turning vehicle, frustrated and then guns it.