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Old Posted Nov 5, 2021, 12:43 AM
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When I first clicked the apple link, it went right to the Star article. Now the Star article says only for subscribers. Fortunately I still had the tab open with the full article, so it's below, if that's allowed.
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Premier Doug Ford is signalling that the Progressive Conservatives’ road to re-election next spring will be paved through the Greater Toronto Area.

In Thursday’s mini-budget, Finance Minister Peter Bethlenfalvy earmarked $1.6 billion over six years “to support large bridge rehabilitation projects and advance key highway expansion projects, including the Bradford bypass and Highway 413.”

That is significant because Bethlenfalvy’s March 24 budget pointedly excluded any mention of or funding for the proposed 60-km Highway 413, connecting Highway 401 at Milton to Highway 400 at Vaughan, and the Bradford bypass, a 16.2-km connection between Highways 400 and 404.

“Without action, the projected population growth will overwhelm existing infrastructure and make life more expensive for families,” the fall economic statement said, projecting the Greater Golden Horseshoe will attract 1 million new people every five years.

Bethlenfalvy’s 179-page plan, entitled “Build Ontario,” sets out $189.1 billion in spending — up $3.2 billion from last spring’s budget.

The fall economic statement serves as both a template for the Tories’ June 2 re-election platform and a blueprint for the province’s economic recovery after almost 20 months of the COVID-19 pandemic.

It forecasts the four-to-six-lane Highway 413 alone would support up to 3,500 jobs a year during construction, generating $350 million in annual economic activity, and handle “300,000 commutes per day while cutting commute times by up to 30 minutes.”

A study for the previous Liberal government — which axed a highway that would raze 2,000 acres of farmland, cut through 85 waterways and pave over 400 acres of Vaughan greenbelt land — said it would only save drivers between 30 to 60 seconds on their commutes.


The Tories are also “committed to fully funding the Bradford bypass,” which will be four lanes and would cross 27 waterways and cut through environmentally sensitive Holland Marsh lands. It would support 700 jobs a year during construction generating $70 million in annual economic activity.

According to the government, construction “is expected to begin in fall 2022 and be completed by 2024” and would save commuters up to 35 minutes.

Highways were not the only transportation infrastructure touted in the economic outlook.

The Tories reiterated support for the new Ontario Line subway, connecting Ontario Place with the Ontario Science Centre, as well as the three-stop Scarborough subway, and extending the Yonge subway into York Region and the still-unfinished Eglinton Crosstown into Etobicoke.

While the treasurer’s mini-budget was optimistic about Ontario prospects after the pandemic, there were concessions the health crisis is very much front and centre.

Bethlenfalvy, who will table a full pre-election budget next March, said overall the government is spending $51 billion “to fight the COVID-19 pandemic and promote economic recovery.”

That includes money to hire more nurses and personal support workers for nursing homes — where all staff must be fully vaccinated by Nov. 15 — along with hiring more inspectors to keep a closer watch on long-term care, expanding home care for patients discharged from hospitals after surgery or with chronic health conditions, and improving infection control in nursing and retirement homes.

As first revealed by the Star on Monday, the Tories are increasing the hourly minimum wage to $15 from $14.35 on Jan. 1, which would boost pay for some 760,000 workers.

Not mentioned in the fall economic statement are any personal income tax cuts or about half the 10-cent per litre gas tax cut Ford promised in his 2018 election campaign, when a global pandemic seemed more in the realm of science fiction than science fact.

Also excluded from the statement was the focus on the she-cession previously promised by Bethlenfalvy, who created a task force last June to address how women have been disproportionately hit by the pandemic.

While the mini-budget talks about $1 billion for 30,000 new, licensed child-care spots, there is no mention of any progress in talks with the federal government on its $10-a-day child care plans.

Because of hefty spending on COVID-19, Ontario will be awash in red ink for years.

This year’s deficit is forecast to be $21.5 billion — which is $11.6 billion lower than projected in last spring’s budget — followed by annual shortfalls of $19.6 billion, $12.9 billion, $8.1 billion and $7.2 billion.

But revenues are expected to be $14.6 billion higher than projected.

There have been substantial increases in revenue forecasts as the economy has picked up since the government posted its first-quarter financial outlook, including personal income tax revenues projected to be $4.9 billion more than anticipated.

Sales tax revenues are forecast to be $3.4 billion higher, corporate taxes $2 billion higher and land transfer taxes $759 million more thanks to a bustling residential real estate market.

Borrowing to finance Ontario’s debt will cost $13 billion this year.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2021, 4:20 PM
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Why is there only one lane heading towards the bridge…
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2021, 4:24 PM
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Why is there only one lane heading towards the bridge…
This is a bit confusing. The Bedford Highway is 2 lanes headed eastbound, not 1. So maybe they're missing a dotted line? But the 2 lanes of eastbound traffic look like they'd be split up and rejoined via the intersection or roundabout.

This will need to handle in the ballpark of 50,000-100,000 cars a day (I think it's around 50,000 now, or that may have been years ago; I believe it's just backed up for much of rushhour and at max capacity). I wonder if this will in the end handle enough traffic.

There is a separate problem, unresolved for 50 years, that the 102 does not connect up properly to the 111.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2021, 4:40 PM
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This is a bit confusing. The Bedford Highway is 2 lanes headed eastbound, not 1. So maybe they're missing a dotted line? But the 2 lanes of eastbound traffic look like they'd be split up and rejoined via the intersection or roundabout.

This will need to handle in the ballpark of 50,000-100,000 cars a day (I think it's around 50,000 now, or that may have been years ago; I believe it's just backed up for much of rushhour and at max capacity). I wonder if this will in the end handle enough traffic.

There is a separate problem, unresolved for 50 years, that the 102 does not connect up properly to the 111.
That's a huge gap that probably needs to be addressed but would be very complicated to actually implement, probably involving a lot of flyovers, demolition, and a new corridor following the rail corridor through there.
     
     
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When I first clicked the apple link, it went right to the Star article. Now the Star article says only for subscribers. Fortunately I still had the tab open with the full article, so it's below, if that's allowed.
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Premier Doug Ford is signalling that the Progressive Conservatives’ road to re-election next spring will be paved through the Greater Toronto Area.

In Thursday’s mini-budget, Finance Minister Peter Bethlenfalvy earmarked $1.6 billion over six years “to support large bridge rehabilitation projects and advance key highway expansion projects, including the Bradford bypass and Highway 413.”

That is significant because Bethlenfalvy’s March 24 budget pointedly excluded any mention of or funding for the proposed 60-km Highway 413, connecting Highway 401 at Milton to Highway 400 at Vaughan, and the Bradford bypass, a 16.2-km connection between Highways 400 and 404.

“Without action, the projected population growth will overwhelm existing infrastructure and make life more expensive for families,” the fall economic statement said, projecting the Greater Golden Horseshoe will attract 1 million new people every five years.

Bethlenfalvy’s 179-page plan, entitled “Build Ontario,” sets out $189.1 billion in spending — up $3.2 billion from last spring’s budget.

The fall economic statement serves as both a template for the Tories’ June 2 re-election platform and a blueprint for the province’s economic recovery after almost 20 months of the COVID-19 pandemic.

It forecasts the four-to-six-lane Highway 413 alone would support up to 3,500 jobs a year during construction, generating $350 million in annual economic activity, and handle “300,000 commutes per day while cutting commute times by up to 30 minutes.”

A study for the previous Liberal government — which axed a highway that would raze 2,000 acres of farmland, cut through 85 waterways and pave over 400 acres of Vaughan greenbelt land — said it would only save drivers between 30 to 60 seconds on their commutes.


The Tories are also “committed to fully funding the Bradford bypass,” which will be four lanes and would cross 27 waterways and cut through environmentally sensitive Holland Marsh lands. It would support 700 jobs a year during construction generating $70 million in annual economic activity.

According to the government, construction “is expected to begin in fall 2022 and be completed by 2024” and would save commuters up to 35 minutes.

Highways were not the only transportation infrastructure touted in the economic outlook.

The Tories reiterated support for the new Ontario Line subway, connecting Ontario Place with the Ontario Science Centre, as well as the three-stop Scarborough subway, and extending the Yonge subway into York Region and the still-unfinished Eglinton Crosstown into Etobicoke.

While the treasurer’s mini-budget was optimistic about Ontario prospects after the pandemic, there were concessions the health crisis is very much front and centre.

Bethlenfalvy, who will table a full pre-election budget next March, said overall the government is spending $51 billion “to fight the COVID-19 pandemic and promote economic recovery.”

That includes money to hire more nurses and personal support workers for nursing homes — where all staff must be fully vaccinated by Nov. 15 — along with hiring more inspectors to keep a closer watch on long-term care, expanding home care for patients discharged from hospitals after surgery or with chronic health conditions, and improving infection control in nursing and retirement homes.

As first revealed by the Star on Monday, the Tories are increasing the hourly minimum wage to $15 from $14.35 on Jan. 1, which would boost pay for some 760,000 workers.

Not mentioned in the fall economic statement are any personal income tax cuts or about half the 10-cent per litre gas tax cut Ford promised in his 2018 election campaign, when a global pandemic seemed more in the realm of science fiction than science fact.

Also excluded from the statement was the focus on the she-cession previously promised by Bethlenfalvy, who created a task force last June to address how women have been disproportionately hit by the pandemic.

While the mini-budget talks about $1 billion for 30,000 new, licensed child-care spots, there is no mention of any progress in talks with the federal government on its $10-a-day child care plans.

Because of hefty spending on COVID-19, Ontario will be awash in red ink for years.

This year’s deficit is forecast to be $21.5 billion — which is $11.6 billion lower than projected in last spring’s budget — followed by annual shortfalls of $19.6 billion, $12.9 billion, $8.1 billion and $7.2 billion.

But revenues are expected to be $14.6 billion higher than projected.

There have been substantial increases in revenue forecasts as the economy has picked up since the government posted its first-quarter financial outlook, including personal income tax revenues projected to be $4.9 billion more than anticipated.

Sales tax revenues are forecast to be $3.4 billion higher, corporate taxes $2 billion higher and land transfer taxes $759 million more thanks to a bustling residential real estate market.

Borrowing to finance Ontario’s debt will cost $13 billion this year.
I really dislike how all the news agencies are quoting the fact GTA West will only save drivers 30-60 seconds. That figure is for the entire network within the golden horseshoe (so, it for example includes trips from Hamilton to St. Catharines, which obviously would not benefit at all from the new highway corridor, so shouldn't expect to save any time).

Whether or not people support GTA West, the fact that reputable news agencies keep repeating that the new highway will only save 30-60 seconds is at best a very disingenuous argument.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2021, 11:02 PM
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I really dislike how all the news agencies are quoting the fact GTA West will only save drivers 30-60 seconds. That figure is for the entire network within the golden horseshoe (so, it for example includes trips from Hamilton to St. Catharines, which obviously would not benefit at all from the new highway corridor, so shouldn't expect to save any time).

Whether or not people support GTA West, the fact that reputable news agencies keep repeating that the new highway will only save 30-60 seconds is at best a very disingenuous argument.
Reputable...you clearly don't understand the leanings of the Toronto Star
     
     
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It's also not 1/2 hours savings - that's for an end-end trip, and that will be quickly filled by induced demand and the new development the highway will bring.
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Why is there only one lane heading towards the bridge…
Because it is the Halifax way of doing things.

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This is a bit confusing. The Bedford Highway is 2 lanes headed eastbound, not 1. So maybe they're missing a dotted line? But the 2 lanes of eastbound traffic look like they'd be split up and rejoined via the intersection or roundabout.

This will need to handle in the ballpark of 50,000-100,000 cars a day (I think it's around 50,000 now, or that may have been years ago; I believe it's just backed up for much of rushhour and at max capacity). I wonder if this will in the end handle enough traffic.

There is a separate problem, unresolved for 50 years, that the 102 does not connect up properly to the 111.
I am guessing it was a oops, however, with how Halifax does things, it would not surprise me. That problem will never et resolved so long as the city residents still want to think they live in a small town.
     
     
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It's also not 1/2 hours savings - that's for an end-end trip, and that will be quickly filled by induced demand and the new development the highway will bring.
Not necessarily. the 407 is a toll road and it still functions at, or above the limit, so the time savings along that corridor are real.

Not to mention, that for all of the attention Toronto's shiny new LRTs are getting, the fastest way to cross the city will still be to sit in traffic on the 401. How come no newspapers ever report that story?
     
     
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Not necessarily. the 407 is a toll road and it still functions at, or above the limit, so the time savings along that corridor are real.
A 4-lane highway without congestion isn't moving very many cars - rural highways have economic utility, but I haven't seen the benefit of economic activity from after construction.

My larger issue is the sprawl related to highway construction. Let's keep it out of the highways thread.

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Not to mention, that for all of the attention Toronto's shiny new LRTs are getting, the fastest way to cross the city will still be to sit in traffic on the 401. How come no newspapers ever report that story?
Define "cross the city." A trip from highway off-ramp to highway off-ramp will always be faster by car. Similarly, a trip from station entrance to station entrance (especially by subway) will have a natural advantage over cars.

The 401 serves a suburb-suburb market, where cars have a natural advantage.

Besides, how can you explain the demand for transit, if cars are so amazing and are all we need?
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^ Toronto has pretty restrictive land use policies which ensure density. If you don't have those same policies, the demand for transit plummets. The cities in Texas have a very laissez-faire attitude towards urban growth, and they are much more sprawling cities than Toronto is, and they have almost zero demand for transit.

York Region spent hundreds of millions of dollars to widen Davis Drive in Newmarket with bus lanes. Almost nobody uses them.
     
     
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^ Toronto has pretty restrictive land use policies which ensure density. If you don't have those same policies, the demand for transit plummets. The cities in Texas have a very laissez-faire attitude towards urban growth, and they are much more sprawling cities than Toronto is, and they have almost zero demand for transit.

York Region spent hundreds of millions of dollars to widen Davis Drive in Newmarket with bus lanes. Almost nobody uses them.
The City of Toronto has no more land to build new sprawl, so they have to build denser to increase population.

Just like induced demand exists for roads, induced demand exists for transit. York Region runs s*itty service, so their ridership is similarly s*itty.

Brampton runs better service, and Queen St has 30,000+ daily ridership on Zum and local routes (half of Houston's LRT ridership).
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After spending ages driving through Brampton a few weeks ago in the rain - Mayfield Road seemed like a good idea driving from Woodbridge to KW for some reason (I was thinking of Mayfield Road c.1997) - it suddenly made sense why the 413 should be built asap.
     
     
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I have had some time to mull over the 2 highway suggestions for the GTA.


I'll start with the 413

https://www.blogto.com/city/2020/08/toronto-new-highway-located/

Scroll down and it shows a great map of where it is slated to go.

Is there a demand for it to ease congestion to get out there? Yes. The 401, 410, 427 and 400 all are congested out to the areas this highway goes. However, to the south is a lesser used highway, the 407. It is not nearly as congested because it is tolled. What the government should do is remove the tolls from it. That means ending the 99 year lease. That means if PC, admitting the PCs did a bad thing. Then, make it a truck route that from where it crosses, inward on the QEW, 401, 403, 404, 410, 427, 412, and 418 are for local trucks only. All through trucks must take the 407. With it being built out of concrete, it is better suited for heavy trucks. If anything, those highways mentioned should have a congestion charge inward of the 407.

The 413 will be a waste of money while the 407 is not congested.



The Bradford Bypass

https://www.bradfordbypass.ca/

This is needed. There has always bee a need between Barrie and the GTA for a connection to the 404. I had always assumed it would be either south of Aurora or north of Newmarket. Being north of Bradford does make sense due to the extended 404. The problem is, the Holland Marsh. So, taking it further south would be better, but this is needed.
     
     
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Also needed: a proper 407 extension from Brampton/Georgetown through the northend of Guelph to KW. I took the 407 for the first time a few days ago - as a newbie to manual transmission driving I didn't want to risk stalling in stop and go 401 traffic - anyway I felt it was worthwhile spending $19 between the 401 and 427 and would do so again.
     
     
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Also needed: a proper 407 extension from Brampton/Georgetown through the northend of Guelph to KW. I took the 407 for the first time a few days ago - as a newbie to manual transmission driving I didn't want to risk stalling in stop and go 401 traffic - anyway I felt it was worthwhile spending $19 between the 401 and 427 and would do so again.
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^And then build a 427 tunneled extension to St Catharines.
     
     
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^And then build a 427 tunneled extension to St Catharines.
If you mean under the lake...... You should run for MPP with Ford.
     
     
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Yes a tunnel under the lake. Buffalo gotta get some love.
     
     
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