PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by thoughtcriminal

this trend has been ongoing for some years now. it's good that the buildings are being used, but I wish at least some of them were returned to their original purpose. there is still a need for manufacturing in this world. people need stuff, and stuff has to be manufactured, so why not do it here.

Some of them are.

Bok. Globe Dye Works. The Shift Capital stuff on Kensington Avenue where Caphe Roasters is (has many light manufacturing tenants). Frankford Arsenal. Dibs and dabs throughout Port Richmond west of Aramingo.

There's more of what I point to above than you realize. And it's continuing.

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by thoughtcriminal

this trend has been ongoing for some years now. it's good that the buildings are being used, but I wish at least some of them were returned to their original purpose. there is still a need for manufacturing in this world. people need stuff, and stuff has to be manufactured, so why not do it here.

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

Some of them are.

Bok. Globe Dye Works. The Shift Capital stuff on Kensington Avenue where Caphe Roasters is (has many light manufacturing tenants). Frankford Arsenal. Dibs and dabs throughout Port Richmond west of Aramingo.

There's more of what I point to above than you realize. And it's continuing.

We have an abundance of Manufacturing buildings in Philly so if majority of them are reused and turned into Apartments & Lofts that's turning areas depressed areas into new hotspots as well as creating the need for new businesses, improvements and money.

We just have to accept that having manufacturing hubs like we had 50+ years ago just isn't a thing anymore there will be new ones coming back and developing.

However the new thing in our era that we should be wishing for especially in Philly is old warehouses being turned into Residential, Offices, IT companies, Clothing, Go puffs & etc.

This for one is much better working environments & pay for people then steel companies, chemical companies and etc which really shouldn't be in cities with people and density.

So improvements are here.

[PHLtoNYC]

Another Property Will Grow on the 1800 Block of Frankford

https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/f...will-grow-on-the-1800-block-of-frankford

Another project coming to Frankford Avenue, a completely transformed stretch.
NakedPhilly makes a good point about the silly zoning on some commercial corridors, this project should not need a variance for 5 stories and 10 units. Any new development on this corridor should be 5-8 stories (setbacks as needed).

[thoughtcriminal]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

We have an abundance of Manufacturing buildings in Philly so if majority of them are reused and turned into Apartments & Lofts that's turning areas depressed areas into new hotspots as well as creating the need for new businesses, improvements and money.

no question that doing something with the buildings that addresses current needs is good.

Originally Posted by TonyTone

We just have to accept that having manufacturing hubs like we had 50+ years ago just isn't a thing anymore

no we don't

Originally Posted by TonyTone

there will be new ones coming back and developing.

that's even better; I should have been clearer in my post. when I said that I wished they would return to their original purpose, I didn't necessarily mean that an old foundry or whatever should be returned to being a foundry. I just meant that I wished some of these old manufacturing plants and factories would return to being used for some industrial or manufacturing purpose, not necessarily the actual original functions. additive manufacturing (3d printing) farms would be one application.

[Mark in Mount Airy]

Originally Posted by thoughtcriminal

no question that doing something with the buildings that addresses current needs is good.


no we don't

that's even better; I should have been clearer in my post. when I said that I wished they would return to their original purpose, I didn't necessarily mean that an old foundry or whatever should be returned to being a foundry. I just meant that I wished some of these old manufacturing plants and factories would return to being used for some industrial or manufacturing purpose, not necessarily the actual original functions. additive manufacturing (3d printing) farms would be one application.

The issue of old factories is analogous to the situation we have with old churches. Generally speaking, modern manufacturers want spacious factories on one level -- when is the last time you saw a new manufacturing plant in a newly constructed building that is multiple stories? Similarly, the way many modern congregations operate (multi-purpose rooms, modern classroom or daycare space, etc) often aren't well suited to the awe-inspiring churches of the 1800s, let alone whether modern congregations want the expense of maintaining them. We should be thrilled to keep whatever architectural legacy we have in an adaptive re-use where the result isn't remuddling. Let 1,000 lofts bloom!

[PHLtoNYC]

Sugar Factory chain to open Philadelphia restaurant with 'insane milkshakes,' celebrity-designed cocktails

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...ugar-factory-porta-restaurant-space.html

Coming to 1214-1216 Chestnut Street in the former Porta and Brickwall spaces. Glad to see some new energy on this block.

[summersm343]

^^Good for this block! It's only a matter of time before this entire block is completely redeveloped.

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

Another Property Will Grow on the 1800 Block of Frankford

https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/f...will-grow-on-the-1800-block-of-frankford

Another project coming to Frankford Avenue, a completely transformed stretch.
NakedPhilly makes a good point about the silly zoning on some commercial corridors, this project should not need a variance for 5 stories and 10 units. Any new development on this corridor should be 5-8 stories (setbacks as needed).

Just amazing - this entire area is completely on fire. Fishtown, Northern Liberties, "SoNo", Olde Kensington, East Kensington, Olde Richmond, Port Richmond and the Waterfront are all CRUISING

Here are the photos from the article. Current site:


Mock up of the building:


New building finishing up next door:


Read/view more here:
https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/f...will-grow-on-the-1800-block-of-frankford

[summersm343]

For Sale: 132-Unit Development Opportunity at 2740 Amber Street in Kensington

Current site:


Rendering:


Read/view more here:
http://www.rising.realestate/for-sale-132-unit-development-opportunity-in-kensington/

[summersm343]

Exterior Work Progresses At The Maven At 1533 Ridge Avenue In Francisville

Current progress:


Current progress:


Rendering:


Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2021/11/exterior...-in-francisville-north-philadelphia.html

[mcgrath618]

https://www.carmeldevelopments.com/portfolio

Just want to give a shoutout to this developer. Both of their Parrish street projects are drop dead gorgeous, and everything else they make is of a similar caliber.

[summersm343]

Permits Issued For 44-Unit Building At 720-30 West Berks Street In Hartranft

Current site:


Aerial of location next to Temple and Temple train station:

Permits have been issued for a 44-unit multi-family building at 720-30 West Berks Street in North Philadelphia East. Upon completion, the new building will rise three stories tall, with 41,302 square feet of space. Permits estimate construction costs at $5,900,727.

Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2021/11/permits-...s-street-in-north-philadelphia-east.html

[summersm343]

Permits Issued For 96-Unit Building At 7165 Keystone Street In Tacony





Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2021/11/permits-...et-in-tacony-northeast-philadelphia.html

[summersm343]

Permits Issued For 3449 Scotts Lane In East Falls

Current site:


Renderings:






Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2021/11/permits-...n-east-falls-northwest-philadelphia.html

[El Duderino]

small update re: the 918-980 N Delaware ave project:

there was a surveyor on site a few days ago and i have seen a few very small crews doing minor stuff in weeks prior. typically very little work is going on here, but there have indeed been small changes ongoing for quite a while.

[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

700 Delaware Ave is a nice looking design. So much action along that stretch (assuming these projects all come to life, hopefully!).

And Delaware Avenue needs major retail and dining options, less car-centric and more pedestrian centric.

one additional update on this project - the phlirt building on the corner was given a demo permit this week or last, so it appears this one is moving forward as well

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by thoughtcriminal

no question that doing something with the buildings that addresses current needs is good.


no we don't

that's even better; I should have been clearer in my post. when I said that I wished they would return to their original purpose, I didn't necessarily mean that an old foundry or whatever should be returned to being a foundry. I just meant that I wished some of these old manufacturing plants and factories would return to being used for some industrial or manufacturing purpose, not necessarily the actual original functions. additive manufacturing (3d printing) farms would be one application.

I understand your points but you must also understand that having industrial buildings near homes were not a good thing even when they were first built & as Mark as pointed out the buildings they use for manufacturing today are set up differently of course they could still set it up in the current old buildings but sometimes its more hassle than the worth.

Also to agree with you we do need some manufacturing jobs & light inndustry but not what we had back in the day, half those jobs are more risk then pay that machines can do now we live in a cleaner and smarter time for businesses.

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

https://www.carmeldevelopments.com/portfolio

Just want to give a shoutout to this developer. Both of their Parrish street projects are drop dead gorgeous, and everything else they make is of a similar caliber.

Their stuff in Fishtown looks like it belongs in Packer Park.

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

Their stuff in Fishtown looks like it belongs in Packer Park.

Ok I take it back, most of their stuff.

[el don]

Originally Posted by TonyTone

I understand your points but you must also understand that having industrial buildings near homes were not a good thing even when they were first built & as Mark as pointed out the buildings they use for manufacturing today are set up differently of course they could still set it up in the current old buildings but sometimes its more hassle than the worth.

Also to agree with you we do need some manufacturing jobs & light inndustry but not what we had back in the day, half those jobs are more risk then pay that machines can do now we live in a cleaner and smarter time for businesses.

Weren't factories usually built first, then rowhomes for the workers?