Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport (YOW/CYOW) 1.0 - Page 279

Dominion301 · #**5561** Posted **Oct 12, 2021, 9:23 PM**

Today’s departure count: 45

Dominion301 · #**5562** Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 4:07 PM**

Today's departure count: 42

Thursday’s departure count is 44

Tesladom · #**5563** Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 1:55 PM**

Looks like Sunwing is scaling back Ottawa departures, noticed that flights to Holguin are suspended until Jan 25. I was supposed to leave on Dec 28

roger1818 · #**5564** Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 2:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tesladom

Looks like Sunwing is scaling back Ottawa departures, noticed that flights to Holguin are suspended until Jan 25. I was supposed to leave on Dec 28

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I called it:

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Originally Posted by roger1818

Sorry for the late reply, but I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. Sunwing are notorious for over-promising and under-delivering. They will sell tickets for direct non-stop flights and then closer to the time consolidate their routes, adding stops in one or both directions.

AuxTown · #**5565** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 1:28 PM**

Did my trip on Porter to Toronto for the soccer game on Wednesday. It was nice to see some bodies back in the airport again but man is it QUIET! Both flights were seamless and right on time. Love the Beau's sponsorship of Porter as they give you a full king can on Lugtread on the flight

Dominion301 · #**5566** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by AuxTown

Did my trip on Porter to Toronto for the soccer game on Wednesday. It was nice to see some bodies back in the airport again but man is it QUIET! Both flights were seamless and right on time. Love the Beau's sponsorship of Porter as they give you a full king can on Lugtread on the flight

How were the loads on your Porter flights?

Today's departure count: 44

MountainView · #**5567** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by AuxTown

Did my trip on Porter to Toronto for the soccer game on Wednesday. It was nice to see some bodies back in the airport again but man is it QUIET! Both flights were seamless and right on time. Love the Beau's sponsorship of Porter as they give you a full king can on Lugtread on the flight

Glad to hear it! If you fly outside of the morning peak the airport is very quiet!! Even the morning "peak" is 1/5th of what it once was back in 2019. At least we are seeing increases... even as subtle as they are.

Dominion301 · #**5568** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:16 PM**

Sector / Sep-20 / Sep-21 / % Change
Dom: 44,068 / 172,778 / +292.1%
TB: 0 / 0 / #DIV/0!
Int'l: 0 / 0 / #DIV/0!
TTL: 44,068 / 172,778 / +292.1%

Sector / YTD 2020 / YTD 2021 / % Change
Dom: 917,080 / 658,957 / -28.1%
TB: 163,093 / 0 / -100.0%
Int'l: 168,382 / 0 / -100.0%
TTL: 1,248,555 / 658,957 / -47.2% - Will need to average 113,681 pax/month in Q4 to hit 1 million in 2021 - will almost certainly happen. Will need to average 234,852 pax/month in Q4 to surpass 2020's total - not likely even with the vaccine passport.

The meaningful indicator these days
Month-Over-Month Change
Sector Aug-21 / Sep-21 / % Change
Dom: 207,745 / 172,778 / -16.8%
TB: 0 / 0 / #DIV/0!
Int'l: 0 / 0 / #DIV/0!
TTL: 207,745 / 172,778 / -16.8%
Avg/Day: 6,701 / 5,759 / -14.1%

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2019
Dom: 773,914 / -80.6%
TB: 0 / -100.0%
Int'l: 0 / -100.0%
TTL: 773,914 / -84.8%

caveat.doctor · #**5569** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 6:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dominion301

How were the loads on your Porter flights?

On Porter to/from Moncton, about 90% full over Thanksgiving weekend.

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Originally Posted by AuxTown

Love the Beau's sponsorship of Porter as they give you a full king can on Lugtread on the flight

Indeed!

Alas, no wine glasses yet. Hope those come back soon!

The group might be interested in the Ottawa feature in the inflight magazine: A Perfect Ottawa Day:

They also highlight that Ottawa will indeed be part of the network expansion with the E195-E2:

View homebound:

AuxTown · #**5570** Posted **Oct 15, 2021, 8:50 PM**

My flights were both full as far as I could tell. Maybe a couple of premium seats open but I couldn't tell from my seat near the bathroom

Great aerial!

RomanR27 · #**5571** Posted **Oct 16, 2021, 1:22 AM**

My girlfriend flew home from YYZ on Tuesday and she said her A220 was about 80% full

Dominion301 · #**5572** Posted **Oct 16, 2021, 2:53 AM**

@caveat.doctor good to hear about the loads and nice pics of the first Porter inflight magazine in 18 months.

Saturday's departure count of 37 reflects the summer seasonal flights coming to an end after the Thanksgiving weekend.

Dominion301 · #**5573** Posted **Oct 17, 2021, 8:24 PM**

Today’s departure count: 40

Dominion301 · #**5574** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 1:29 PM**

Today’s departure count: 44

gjhall · #**5575** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 2:45 PM**

Flew to DCA via YUL over the weekend and back, and all 4 flights were 95+% full - YOW still really quiet, YUL felt more "normal" in terms of volume but definitely not 100% back.

Queues for customs are crazy long but connecting passengers get to bypass the whole queue; feels awkward and got heckled while walking past hundreds of people getting frustrated but just keep keeping' on until you get to the front.

Dominion301 · #**5576** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 2:57 PM**

AC have released their December/January non-sun domestic/transborder schedule and here's what's loaded for YOW:
YHZ: 3x CR9
YUL: 6x: 4x DH4 (3x day 6), 1x CR9, 1x CRJ (2x day 6)
YTZ: 4x DH4
YYZ: 9x ops X6, 8x day 6: 1x 223 (ops X1), 1x CR9, 7x 320 (ops 8x day 1 & 6x day 6)
YYC: 1x 320
YVR: 2x 321 (1x day 7)

YOW-BOS/DCA/EWR are all now removed until May 2022.

YOW-IAD on UA is still showing as resuming Nov 1st. on a daily CRJ. ORD though is now delayed until late March 2022.

MountainView · #**5577** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 3:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dominion301

AC have released their December/January non-sun domestic/transborder schedule and here's what's loaded for YOW:
YHZ: 3x CR9
YUL: 6x: 4x DH4 (3x day 6), 1x CR9, 1x CRJ (2x day 6)
YTZ: 4x DH4
YYZ: 9x ops X6, 8x day 6: 1x 223 (ops X1), 1x CR9, 7x 320 (ops 8x day 1 & 6x day 6)
YYC: 1x 320
YVR: 2x 321 (1x day 7)

YOW-BOS/DCA/EWR are all now removed until May 2022.

YOW-IAD on UA is still showing as resuming Nov 1st. on a daily CRJ. ORD though is now delayed until late March 2022.

I believe the 737 MAX 8 is flying one of the daily YVRs but I could be wrong.

Also... I still wonder if that IAD route will take off in November... the fares are incredibly high right now whether you are O&D to Washington or looking for a connection. It's at least 50% cheaper to connect on AC via YYZ/YUL

roger1818 · #**5578** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by MountainView

Also... I still wonder if that IAD route will take off in November... the fares are incredibly high right now whether you are O&D to Washington or looking for a connection. It's at least 50% cheaper to connect on AC via YYZ/YUL

They may be counting on the fact that connecting to/from a US flight in Canada is a nightmare with all the COVID screening (especially entering Canada), and unless you have a long layover, you will probably miss your connecting flight. WS is treating their customers well in this situation (offering meal vouchers etc.). AC, not so much, as they refuse to give their passenger anything as they say it isn't their fault.

JakeLRS · #**5579** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 8:44 PM**

Looks like non-stop flights to Kitchener-Waterloo (YKF) will be announced this week through Pivot Airlines.

Dominion301 · #**5580** Posted **Oct 18, 2021, 10:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by JakeLRS

Looks like non-stop flights to Kitchener-Waterloo (YKF) will be announced this week through Pivot Airlines.

Hope the reincarnation of Air Georgian succeeds as a stand-alone carrier. In normal times, there’s definitely the tech traffic there to support a 2x daily weekdays, 1x weekends service.