False Creek South Planning - Page 5

officedweller · #81 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 3:42 AM**

Strange place to put a tall tower - next to Granville Bridge.
Wouldn't it be in a view cone?

Granville Street View Cone 20:

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cted-view.aspx

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https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/...902376450?s=20

dleung · #82 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 4:13 AM**

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LOL, the pretentiousness of cloaking their oversized strata tower as some sort of artistic “counterpoint” to anything..

The neighbours to Marine Gateway heard that one before.... "It's just one pair of towers!" LOL - before you know it there's a skyline all the way to Burrard.

I'm not clear on where those phase 1 towers along 6th Ave are gonna fit... over the streetcar tracks?

vanman · #83 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 4:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Strange place to put a tall tower - next to Granville Bridge.
Wouldn't it be in a view cone?

Granville Street View Cone 20:

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cted-view.aspx

Maybe they're banking on the viewcones no longer existing in the late 2030s?

Migrant_Coconut · #84 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 6:24 AM**

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Nice how it overshadows the public space of Granville Island too.

For about half an hour at lunch - then it's back to normal. The bridge itself blocks more sunlight.

mukmuk64 · #85 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 5:25 PM**

I suspect the curiously tall tower is an intentional distraction. Discussion will be focused on that, council will shrink the tower a tad (to where city staff always would have been happy to have it) as compromise.

Meanwhile, with the focus on the tower, everything else about the proposal will be ignored and sail through without controversy.

mukmuk64 · #86 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 5:29 PM**

Presumably the point of adding so many market leasehold condos is to raise the funds for the capital costs of all the new development. It's a shame though since I think the city would be better off with more control, which they'd have if there was more city owned market and below market rental and coops instead.

Overall seems like the squeaky wheel nimbys got their way, as the existing market leaseholds are untouched. Said nimbys leveraged their "concerns" for their low income neighbours to push their idea of no change at all. Their low income neighbours now will endure change to ensure that the wealthy strata owners endure none.

Pretty classic stuff for Vancouver all around.

madog222 · #87 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Strange place to put a tall tower - next to Granville Bridge.
Wouldn't it be in a view cone?

Granville Street View Cone 20:

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-d...cted-view.aspx

Looking on Google Earth I think the tower would be just outside of 20.2.

jollyburger · #88 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 7:41 PM**

From the map it cuts across the west side of that Co-op. I think that's why the podium is there and the tower is on the eastern section of the site.

20.2

https://opendata.vancouver.ca/explor...904,-123.13462

Vin · #89 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 8:36 PM**

Nice height!

And to the NIMBYs: It won't be the end of the world.

WarrenC12 · #90 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 8:38 PM**

So the buildings within the zone that are still grey are not touched? What are they now?

officedweller · #91 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 9:26 PM**

Thanks for checking that!

GenWhy? · #92 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 9:55 PM**

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So the buildings within the zone that are still grey are not touched? What are they now?

I think it might be 70'. The viewcone for the lowest point, which that building's at you might be able to get up to 180'-200'? I could be remembering a 3D viewcone incorrectly.

Vin · #93 Posted **Oct 13, 2021, 11:13 PM**

Love that cluster of taller towers around Cambie Bridge. I think the City must be inspired by the Avant Garde development by the Burrard Bridge initiated by the Squamish Nation.

whatnext · #94 Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 1:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

For about half an hour at lunch - then it's back to normal. The bridge itself blocks more sunlight.

We shouldn't be accepting any shadowing of an iconic public space. It's bad enough the Squamish development will be casting long shadows in te evening over the western half of the island.

No doubt, the greedy little cubicle farm bureaucrats at City Hall didn't care as they don't have their paws on Granville Island.

Migrant_Coconut · #95 Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 1:52 AM**

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We shouldn't be accepting any shadowing of an iconic public space. It's bad enough the Squamish development will be casting long shadows in te evening over the western half of the island.

Then let's get rid of all three bridges - Cambie blocks the sunrise, Burrard blocks the sunset, and Granville shadows half the island at almost all times of day.

Feathered Friend · #96 Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 3:56 AM**

Funny, I thought this was a forum for people that enjoyed the variation, and aesthetics taller buildings can bring to a city. Did I sign into the wrong place?

jollyburger · #97 Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 4:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

We shouldn't be accepting any shadowing of an iconic public space. It's bad enough the Squamish development will be casting long shadows in te evening over the western half of the island.

No doubt, the greedy little cubicle farm bureaucrats at City Hall didn't care as they don't have their paws on Granville Island.

It might shadow most of the marinas next to it but it seems like an exaggeration that it will shadow Granville Island let alone the entire western half of the island.

Migrant_Coconut · #98 Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 5:40 AM**

I'm assuming that "evening" was intended to mean 1-2 hours before dusk, right when the sun would dip behind Senakw. But that's when the island switches to streetlights anyway.

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

Funny, I thought this was a forum for people that enjoyed the variation, and aesthetics taller buildings can bring to a city. Did I sign into the wrong place?

What, you didn't notice the big "SuburbanitePage" logo at the top of the screen?

whatnext · #99 Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 7:25 PM**

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Funny, I thought this was a forum for people that enjoyed the variation, and aesthetics taller buildings can bring to a city. Did I sign into the wrong place?

I look it a s site to discuss urban issues, not strictly the fetishization of tall erections.

Vin · #**100** Posted **Oct 14, 2021, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

We shouldn't be accepting any shadowing of an iconic public space. It's bad enough the Squamish development will be casting long shadows in te evening over the western half of the island.

No doubt, the greedy little cubicle farm bureaucrats at City Hall didn't care as they don't have their paws on Granville Island.

The shadowing of downtown buildings felt really awesome during the recent heatwave. Need 100% sunshine? Just go to the nearby beaches and waterfront parks. There are plenty of those around.