7 Queen St N + 354 King St W | 77.2 & 41.7 m | 12 & 25 fl | Under Construction - Page 25

Chronamut · #**481** Posted **Sep 8, 2021, 4:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigguy1231

When I was a kid growing up in that area it was an orphanage not a convent.

either way its a travesty - it was originally a religious building I believe though as the entire building was cross shaped - my mom worked for them and they were called the sisters of st. joseph

Innsertnamehere · #**482** Posted **Sep 15, 2021, 7:26 PM**

https://pub-hamilton.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=283593

looks like Vrancor has appealed the apartment tower to the OLT.

TheHonestMaple · #**483** Posted **Sep 15, 2021, 8:00 PM**

And I hope he get's it approved. It's probably one of his better looking proposals and our city desperately needs more residents in the downtown core. Good luck sir.

ScreamingViking · #**484** Posted **Sep 15, 2021, 8:17 PM**

It probably will be approved. Especially since the height limit is effectively a non-issue.

Just noticed -- shouldn't this thread be 354-356 King W? 366-368 is the 2-floor Vrancor Restaurant Group building. The initial post was about that small building renovation, but we've since moved on to the two new ones.

King&James · #**485** Posted **Sep 19, 2021, 3:03 PM**

[QUOTE=TheHonestMaple;9400163]Taken September 18, 2021.

Borrowing photo from other thread .....

So it does not appear that the yellow crane that just went up (left side of photo), can actually reach the hotel portion of project, the only approved part (for extra floors). Curious on the strategy for the 25 stoey tower (does he build up to the approved level and then just wait)?

Innsertnamehere · #**486** Posted **Sep 19, 2021, 3:40 PM**

Guessing so. An OLT approval might take a while though so it’s curious he’s doing even that right now.

TheRitsman · #**487** Posted **Sep 28, 2021, 10:33 PM**

Looks like the crane is being extended taller? This is such an odd job site. I'm not sure why the hotel portion hasn't seen work done to it to finish it off.

TheHonestMaple · #**488** Posted **Sep 29, 2021, 12:49 AM**

I noticed a bunch of workers there Monday morning, I guess the apartment building will be started on soon.

urban_planner · #**489** Posted **Sep 29, 2021, 1:54 AM**

The crane was definitely taller today.

ScreamingViking · #**490** Posted **Sep 29, 2021, 11:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by TheRitsman

Looks like the crane is being extended taller? This is such an odd job site. I'm not sure why the hotel portion hasn't seen work done to it to finish it off.

That's cool. I knew they got jacked up, but have never actually seen how.

LikeHamilton · #**491** Posted **Sep 30, 2021, 2:23 AM**

Drove down the 403 today and the crane has become very visible from that side.

Wigs · #**492** Posted **Oct 1, 2021, 12:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by ScreamingViking

Get thee to a nunnery... um, no. A Vranichery.

Welcome to Vranichville: Build First, pay government fines later!

NortheastWind · #**493** Posted **Oct 1, 2021, 12:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wigs

Welcome to Vranichville: Build First, pay government fines later!

It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.

Beedok · #**494** Posted **Oct 1, 2021, 12:30 PM**

Clearly he agrees with the forumites here that city hall is too slow.

ScreamingViking · #**495** Posted **Oct 9, 2021, 4:00 PM**

Spec story today about the residential tower going to the OLT:

Vrancor takes 25-storey King Street West plan to provincial tribunal

https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilton-re...ton-high-rise-ontario-land-tribunal.html

Teviah Moro
The Hamilton Spectator
Sat., Oct. 9, 2021

A prominent Hamilton developer will make the case for 25 storeys before Ontario’s land-dispute tribunal instead of city council.

That’s “regrettable,” says Coun. Maureen Wilson, who represents the King Street West area where Vrancor hopes to build the highrise.

The firm filed an appeal to the Ontario Land Tribunal (OLT) under legislation that allows challenges for applications that councils fail to handle within 120 days.

The 25-storey building would stand next to a 12-storey hotel on the site bounded by Queen, Ray and Market streets in the Strathcona neighbourhood.

With the matter before the OLT, city staff declined to comment on what pushed the file beyond the 120 days.

But in May, council backed two extra storeys for the hotel, previously approved at 10 storeys. Vrancor opted to split the project into two phases to deal separately with the 25-storey plan, previously approved at six storeys.

That “further added to the timeline,” said Wilson, who voted against the 12-storey hotel.

She also called the project “planning by a thousand cuts of variances,” referring to its incremental changes.

A Vrancor representative didn’t respond to a request for comment Friday, but previously the developer has disputed that its plans had shifted over time.

Its consultant has also contended the proposal adheres to provincial policy that calls for denser buildings along transit lines and in urban cores.

Nonetheless, city staff have flagged concerns over how its height and density will affect lower-rise neighbours, with specific reference to shadows.

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Last month, a staff report noted the city had 14 non-decision challenges on its books as of Aug. 18. The subsequent Vrancor appeal and one by Valery Developments add to that list.

That could be a product of high development activity and not enough city planning staff, suggests Mike Collins-Williams, CEO of the West End Home Builders Association.

...

full story

ZTrade · #**496** Posted **Oct 9, 2021, 4:23 PM**

Hope Vrancor wins and city council learns to not be lazy in the future and do their job. 120 days wasn't enough time for them?

TheHonestMaple · #**497** Posted **Oct 9, 2021, 4:25 PM**

This city is a joke lol. Approves an LRT along King because it wants to encourage intensifications, then fights developers at every opportunity when they try to do just that.

I hope Vranich wins. And I'm sure he will.

TheRitsman · #**498** Posted **Oct 9, 2021, 4:41 PM**

I get what you guys are saying, but I still don't like the shady way Darko goes about getting his way. If this goes forward then it sets a baf precedent that the rules can simply not be followed. That's not good for anyone.

I do think the city should have dealt with this within the required timeframe. This is part of the reason developers are designing such bad proposals in Hamilton, they need to make up the cost for Hamilton's terrible process.

drpgq · #**499** Posted **Oct 9, 2021, 4:51 PM**

It's Kabuki. Wilson wants to be able to say she opposed it to her constituents, although its ironic Wilson is for transit and against boundary expansion.

Innsertnamehere · #**500** Posted **Oct 9, 2021, 5:00 PM**

It’s quite challenging to process an application properly in 4 months, it’s a very tight timeline. If basically anything goes wrong the deadline is missed.

The timeline is set artificially low so that developers can pull the trigger on an appeal quickly if they know they aren’t getting anywhere with the city.

This one was always going to the OLT from the start, this isn’t a surprise.

I agree that if councillors really want to stop the urban boundary expansion they can’t be playing local nimby games like this. The amount of intensification needed to avoid the urban boundary expansion is massive, and can’t be achieved while playing games like this.