San Antonio International Airport News & Updates - Page 10

satx23 · #**181** Posted **Sep 28, 2021, 9:34 PM**

August Passenger Stats

Domestic Enplanements: 319,883
Domestic Deplanements: 316,837

Total Domestic Passengers: 636,720

International Enplanements: 34,469
International Deplanements: 42,219

Total International Passengers: 76,888

Total August Passengers: 713,408

https://flysanantonio.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/2021-AUG-Stats.pdf

Verbl1 · #**182** Posted **Oct 1, 2021, 11:17 PM**

Anyone else going to be on the first flight out of SAT on the 31st? The wife and I are excited about it

texboy · #**183** Posted **Oct 4, 2021, 1:47 PM**

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Anyone else going to be on the first flight out of SAT on the 31st? The wife and I are excited about it

Hopefully bookings pick up here... playing with the reservation system, these flights aren't half full yet.

GoldenBoot · #**184** Posted **Oct 4, 2021, 6:05 PM**

JetBlue's new JFK flight is also commencing on Oct. 31...

AI0120 · #**185** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 3:09 AM**

Probably a better option to look at seat maps 24 hours prior to the flight for a better idea. Quite a few passengers could have bought Blue Basic, which assigns seats no more than 24 hours in advance. Somewhat like Basic Economy on other airlines.

Another interesting note, AA is suspending JFK-SAT service November 2 and restarts January 2 and Delta has pushed back its JFK-SAT flight til January, so JetBlue will have no competition for Boston or JFK for winter 2021. If they can't make these flights work, SAT is in some trouble.

texboy · #**186** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by AI0120

Probably a better option to look at seat maps 24 hours prior to the flight for a better idea. Quite a few passengers could have bought Blue Basic, which assigns seats no more than 24 hours in advance. Somewhat like Basic Economy on other airlines.

Another interesting note, AA is suspending JFK-SAT service November 2 and restarts January 2 and Delta has pushed back its JFK-SAT flight til January, so JetBlue will have no competition for Boston or JFK for winter 2021. If they can't make these flights work, SAT is in some trouble.

Ah that make sense. I really would like to see these 2 routes be successful. I have to imagine there's some expectation out there that people will slow travel again due to potential surge in Covid this winter, so maybe thats the factor for AA/Delta?

Also, anyone that's in the know... any idea when the final master plan will be released? Last I heard, it would be this Fall... pretty solid into Fall now.

aggie2008 · #**187** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 3:35 PM**

--Moved to Urban Core Dev thread--

texboy · #**188** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 4:42 PM**

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NYT article on San Antonio focusing on downtown. Pretty good! Any thoughts?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/busin...edevelopment.html?searchResultPosition=1

This should be posted in Urban Core Development.

theOGalexd · #**189** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by aggie2008

NYT article on San Antonio focusing on downtown. Pretty good! Any thoughts?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/busin...edevelopment.html?searchResultPosition=1

Cool that the NYT did an article on SA. Can't say I really understand the POV about "affordable housing" though. It's almost like saying people in the Bronx are mad that they can't afford midtown Manhattan prices lol. If developers were trying to raze the projects on the west side and put up a luxury condo tower, I would get it. But I'm not sure how downtown is being "gentrified" when there was really nothing there to begin with

FightOn! · #**190** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 6:34 PM**

I have a strong feeling AA doesn't come back on JFK-SAT and gives this to JetBlue to run for them under their agreement.

Spoiler · #**191** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 8:31 PM**

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Cool that the NYT did an article on SA. Can't say I really understand the POV about "affordable housing" though. It's almost like saying people in the Bronx are mad that they can't afford midtown Manhattan prices lol. If developers were trying to raze the projects on the west side and put up a luxury condo tower, I would get it. But I'm not sure how downtown is being "gentrified" when there was really nothing there to begin with

I'm not sure why you put the word "gentrified" in quotation marks when that word was never used in the article. Also, the article makes clear that people are concerned about displacement on the Westside as development downtown leads to rising property values in the immediately adjacent neighborhood. There was no mention of displacement due to demolition of existing housing stock. Your Bronx/Manhattan analogy would only make sense if development in Manhattan was leading to Manhattan-like property values in the Bronx.

theOGalexd · #**192** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 8:53 PM**

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I'm not sure why you put the word "gentrified" in quotation marks when that word was never used in the article. Also, the article makes clear that people are concerned about displacement on the Westside as development downtown leads to rising property values in the immediately adjacent neighborhood. There was no mention of displacement due to demolition of existing housing stock. Your Bronx/Manhattan analogy would only make sense if development in Manhattan was leading to Manhattan-like property values in the Bronx.

Maybe the Bronx was a bad example. I guess you could make the case for Pilsen in Chicago or maybe Harlem.

Just my opinion, but it's gonna be a hot minute before the residential areas of the inner west side get touched. There's so many parking lots/vacant buildings DT that will get developed, and all the desirable areas are immediately north or south. I guess that's why I was confused about why the majority of the article was about that. Wouldn't property values going up be a good thing for these people too?

Spoiler · #**193** Posted **Oct 5, 2021, 11:06 PM**

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Maybe the Bronx was a bad example. I guess you could make the case for Pilsen in Chicago or maybe Harlem.

Just my opinion, but it's gonna be a hot minute before the residential areas of the inner west side get touched. There's so many parking lots/vacant buildings DT that will get developed, and all the desirable areas are immediately north or south. I guess that's why I was confused about why the majority of the article was about that. Wouldn't property values going up be a good thing for these people too?

Harlem is a better example. The Westside is a community that is a source of culture in music, art, and literature, whose poverty makes them vulnerable. They face displacement from increased property values because they can't pay increased property taxes. People are concerned that the community, and therefore the culture, which is a defining aspect of San Antonio's identity, will be diluted and dispersed because of that. This was all covered in the article.

satx23 · #**194** Posted **Oct 7, 2021, 3:35 AM**

In-Person Public Open House

Purpose: To learn about the 2040 preferred airport development plan for the airfield, terminal, airport access, financial feasibility and implementation, and next steps, including what will be built when.

https://flysanantonio.com/business/about-saas/strategic-development/strategic-development-events/

Restless One · #**195** Posted **Oct 7, 2021, 11:02 PM**

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Harlem is a better example. The Westside is a community that is a source of culture in music, art, and literature, whose poverty makes them vulnerable. They face displacement from increased property values because they can't pay increased property taxes. People are concerned that the community, and therefore the culture, which is a defining aspect of San Antonio's identity, will be diluted and dispersed because of that. This was all covered in the article.

If the culture of music, art and literature were as valuable as they are being made to appear, then the flip side of that particular culture coin would not be generational poverty, gang violence, drug use, single motherhood and teenage pregnancy.

There are beautiful areas, buildings, people and history on the West side, but there are also aspects that nobody wants to talk about or address. Until they are addressed, the West side will always be vulnerable.

Spoiler · #**196** Posted **Oct 8, 2021, 4:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by Restless One

If the culture of music, art and literature were as valuable as they are being made to appear, then the flip side of that particular culture coin would not be generational poverty, gang violence, drug use, single motherhood and teenage pregnancy.

There are beautiful areas, buildings, people and history on the West side, but there are also aspects that nobody wants to talk about or address. Until they are addressed, the West side will always be vulnerable.

I don't know what point you're trying to make, but I also don't care. I'm only replying because I previously forgot to mention the westside's contribution to world cuisine, the main reason San Antonio is a UNESCO World City of Gastronomy.

texboy · #**197** Posted **Oct 8, 2021, 2:50 PM**

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I don't know what point you're trying to make, but I also don't care. I'm only replying because I previously forgot to mention the westside's contribution to world cuisine, the main reason San Antonio is a UNESCO World City of Gastronomy.

Please take this to the Urban Core thread... this is the airport thread.

texboy · #**198** Posted **Oct 8, 2021, 5:13 PM**

Timeline for $2 billion makeover at San Antonio International Airport hits the fast track

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Terminal A — the largest of two arrival and departure facilities in the airport complex — is cramped and outdated. And little about it tells travelers they’ve arrived in the seventh-largest city in the country.

San Antonio airport officials are driving to make a better first impression with a plan that includes building a Terminal C and new parking garage, creating a single security checkpoint — and replacing Terminal A. They also plan to imbue the airport with a San Antonio feel.

The remaking of San Antonio International could happen fast.

“Our goal is to have construction begin in the next 3-5 years and for the completion of Phase I to be finished in the next 6-8 years,” city Aviation Director Jesus Saenz Jr., said in an email to the Express-News. “We are planning for the future of the community and the future of the airport.”

Still, he said airport officials have to undertake “advanced programming and planning before we can confidently share a timeline.”

City Council members and city staff so far appear to be on board with the plan, which could cost more than $2 billion dollars. The cost would be covered by passenger fees on tickets, airline and concession rents and federal grants.

The proposal is set to be presented to the City Council on Nov. 10, with the council expected to vote on it by year’s end.

Before that, plans for a new terminal will be released to the public Oct. 19 at an in-person meeting at the Jewish Community Center, followed by a virtual meeting Oct. 21.

ILUVSAT · #**199** Posted **Oct 8, 2021, 5:50 PM**

I applaud the forward thinking of this idea! Hope to see something come from it. In the best case scenario, it seems phase 1 will be complete by 2030ish.

However, I'm not sure it's worth spending $2 billion (over two phases) redeveloping the terminal if lengthening (at least) one runway to 10,000' (or more) is not included in the plan.

It will be interesting what the FAA says about any expansion. They're quite conservative when it comes to PAX projections.

Keeping my fingers crossed!

texboy · #**200** Posted **Oct 8, 2021, 5:59 PM**

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Not sure it's worth spending $2 billion (over two phases) redeveloping the terminal if lengthening (at least) one runway to 10,000' (or more) is not included.

It will be interesting what the FAA says about any expansion. They're quite conservative when it comes to PAX projections.

The runway 100% should be apart of it, but that terminal A... man... its a beast... it needs to go. period. $2B seems about right to me if you want to really do it right. As much as they SHOULD be tied together, the terminal cannot stay. I fly into SA probably 25% of the time I visit my folks who live in NB, and that terminal can't even fit the passengers boarding 737-700's that are flying in there. I don't know how Delta does it when they fly their 757-200 in when its fully loaded. Its definitely needed even if the airport only handles domestic narrowbody aircraft and never gets the wanted European/S. America routes.

And I used to work for WSP, and knew folks working on this plan... and I can tell you the FAA is aware and is on board. SA wouldn't be continuing with this effort and not having discussions with the FAA. I think we will see an initial 15 ish gates on terminal C, 8-10 gates on B stick around and A will be reno'd to have another 8 to 10 gates.