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Old Posted Sep 27, 2021, 6:33 PM
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^so that explains upper dublin and upper moreland township. Never knew the lower versions were in what we know to be philadelphia today

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Old Posted Sep 27, 2021, 6:59 PM
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Monk's Overbuild today:


If every project looked like this we'd be a very happy forum.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2021, 7:51 PM
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^Small details like that go a long way. We need t see more of it in new construction or exterior reno jobs.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2021, 10:47 PM
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Monk's Overbuild today:


If every project looked like this we'd be a very happy forum.
That's not a Monk's overbuild though. Rather it is next door to Monk's and is not an overbuild. A modern 2-story commercial building was demolished to make way for this 7-story residential condo development. You can see what was there before by using the streetview time machine widget.

Streetview 2020: https://goo.gl/maps/UQYUZP8LovjGVLvd6
Streetview 2018: https://goo.gl/maps/Bfk4a5YVqriEr1tM7

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Old Posted Sep 27, 2021, 11:01 PM
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I’ve seen others on here colloquially refer to it as “the Monk’s Overbuild.” Thank you for clarifying.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2021, 11:54 PM
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Philadelphia's One Liberty Observation Deck now permanently closed

1) This sucks. I was hoping it would make a comeback. Is the City Hall tower still available? I wonder what becomes of that space in One Liberty now?

2) The Convention/Visitor CEO guy in this clip suggested that convention bookings, I assume for 2022, are up 70% year to date compared to 2019. That's incredible if true but I don't get it. In September 2019 nobody knew what a dog of a year that 2020 would be.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2021, 2:57 AM
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Why?? Literally makes no sense when they just reopened their Hancock Center location in Chicago.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2021, 4:59 AM
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Wtf? One of the best views, but at least we have JG Skyhigh now. Maybe they think it's not worth it with the competition?
     
     
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Wtf? One of the best views, but at least we have JG Skyhigh now. Maybe they think it's not worth it with the competition?
New York City opens a new observation deck literally every month, Center City can certainly support additional observation decks. Plus, this and JG are not direct competition. One is a bougie bar, this is a fun thing for visitors and families.

Is there really that little tourism traffic support this? I find that so hard to believe.

Maybe another entity will step in??
     
     
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Center City office building hits the market in life sciences play

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2021/09/27/2300-chestnut-st-hits-the-market.html

Life Science trend continuing.

"The building is 77% leased to such tenants as: Vanguard Group, which occupies 16,992 square feet; Dakota, a marketing company, which occupies 14,757 square feet; Sheward Partnership, an architectural firm, which leases 11,524 square feet; and Century Link, which has been a tenant since 1996 and leases 14,553 square feet for its fiber-optic telecommunications junction center. "

"2323 Chestnut St., which is across the street. Miller Investment Management is proposing to spend more than $40 million to convert that 120,000-square-foot office building into lab space. Those plans also involve extending the structure by two stories, adding another roughly 44,000 square feet to it."

Separately, does anyone know where Jacobs Engineering is moving? They are in one of the buildings at 23rd/Chestnut, but announced an HQ move earlier this year.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2021, 3:37 PM
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New York City opens a new observation deck literally every month, Center City can certainly support additional observation decks. Plus, this and JG are not direct competition. One is a bougie bar, this is a fun thing for visitors and families.

Is there really that little tourism traffic support this? I find that so hard to believe.

Maybe another entity will step in??
I don't think a lot of tourists know about the Liberty one observation deck, it's not something that's really advertised.

I think there is/was a banner outside of Liberty Place and that's it, I wonder if better advertising can bring it back.

We definitely deserve to have multiple Rooftop views in the city.
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Great anecdotes, it doesnt have any relation to the article I was commenting on. Lots of middle class black people are and have been leaving northern and west coast cities for the South. There are a host of reasons for this discussed in that article, their views on local politicians were not mentioned as a key factor. YOur premise was that these issues would go away if only city council members were as smart as the people on here. Im saying its much more complicated than that and some of these trends are just inescapable- people are going to do what they want and for the last 50 years or so many have been gravitating towards warmer climates, newer and cheaper housing and a perceived lower tax burden.

Im all for trash pickup but to be frank the stuff you are talking about pales in comparison to Philly's biggest current problem- gun violence. Now THAT is an issue that is driving people away and rightfully so. But like so many other issues, it's difficult to address comprehensively without any cooperation from higher levels of government.

BTW you cant have it both ways- a few weeks back people were jumping on me (and others) for pointing out issues in center city- basically saying every city has these issues and in some cases denying the issues downtown were even noticeable. So if we are going to tout development, population growth and philadelphia's rising profile you cannot then claim the city is a shithole ONLY due to the people in city hall. Here is the reality, the city population is less white and more left leaning than its ever been- that is reflected who is on council. When you say the people who were chosen are incompetent and in essence stupid, you are inferring that the people who put them in there don't know any better. Just because you don't agree with people doesnt make them incompetent. Some of these people and their constituents have different priorities than you do and thus their focus may be on different issues and solutions- doesn't make them wrong.
Regarding Black migration to the Southeast you are completely correct. Moreover, migration isn’t and hasn’t been to cities but to the suburbs. Metro Atlanta’s Black population has more than doubled over the past thirty years. Nearly every bit of that growth has been in the suburbs, the southern and eastern suburbs primarily. Thirty years ago the city of Atlanta was 67% Black today it’s 47% Black and well on its way to becoming at least plurality White if not majority White.

The mayoral race in Atlanta this year is entirely a referendum on which candidate is most likely to reduce crime in the city (hint: neither of the front runners are likely to do so). Atlanta’s advantages over Philadelphia are climate, geography and lower cost of living. It’s definitely not less corrupt or more competent government.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2021, 4:35 AM
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Atlanta’s advantages over Philadelphia are climate,.
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geography
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and lower cost of living.
May or may not be true, but a large selling point of Philadelphia is it's incredibly low cost of living for its location on the east coast.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2021, 7:55 AM
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Before consolidation Northern Liberties, Southwark, and spring garden all spent time on the list of America's 10 largest cities.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2021, 12:23 PM
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May or may not be true, but a large selling point of Philadelphia is it's incredibly low cost of living for its location on the east coast.
You may not care for Atlanta’s climate. However, it’s an undeniable fact that Atlanta’s milder climate, milder winters especially, has attracted a large number of migrants from the Northeast and Midwest.

Atlanta has a huge hub airport, is a major convention destination, is a major logistics center, is a prime location for corporate relocations, etc. because of its location.

The original topic regarded Black people moving from the Philadelphia to the Southeast. They aren’t moving to city. They’re moving to suburban Atlanta. Low real estate prices and low property taxes in the suburbs south and east of the city are a huge draw.

Black people were denied access to suburban housing for decades. As suburban access opened for Black folks in the 1990s suburban Atlanta had abundant cheap undeveloped land and still does today. You can buy new or recent detached SFH construction at a lower cost per sq foot than what you would pay for a 50 - 60 year old house in eastern Delco. Because the school districts are countywide the property taxes are much lower and you don’t end up with tiny and financially unsustainable districts like Penn Wood.

Black migration to the Southeast has nothing to do with the quality of government which was the original assertion. It’s been driven by climate, cost, and the presence of lots of other Black people. The ability for Black people to move into suburbs in which they are not a distinct minority is a huge draw in its own right.
     
     
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Triangular Building Under Construction at Ridge & Diamond (More Development in Strawberry Mansion)

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152-Unit, Mixed-Use Building Proposed Next to the Berks El Station in Norris Square

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