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[esquire]

1022 Pembina reminds me a bit of Paragon's 30UC on University Crescent. At first I thought they were by the same developer.

[bomberjet]

Looking east or south? I'm trying to finds the red brick 3 storey in the right orientation. There is another recent building in there. Big metal looking thing.

Either way, looks really nice!

[Biff]

East, it will tuck in between the brick portion of Tache hall and that new metal structure which includes a link to the middle block of Tache Hall.

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by esquire

1022 Pembina reminds me a bit of Paragon's 30UC on University Crescent. At first I thought they were by the same developer.

Same developer as the Pemby site across the street. They also own the property Vics Fruit Market is located on, with Vics recent announcement of their intentions to build a new shop across street id expect further redevelopment of this property.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Same developer as the Pemby site across the street. They also own the property Vics Fruit Market is located on, with Vics recent announcement of their intentions to build a new shop across street id expect further redevelopment of this property.

That’s great. Sad about Pancake House though.

3 mixed use projects at that intersection would be a massive transformation. Don’t know why they all need so much parking though…

[buzzg]

Something is happening at the Dayton Building. Snap signage has finally been removed, sale/lease signs are gone and saw people going in. Would be awesome if someone bought it to finally fix up.

Also noticed the CashMoney building at NE corner of Portage and Sherbrook is renovating the exterior. Hopefully something that restores and respects heritage elements and not just covering it up with siding.

[esquire]

The Dayton Building has been going from one weak use to another... it would be nice to finally see something good happen with it.

[buzzg]

While Snap wasn’t sexy a 24 hour gym was the most regularly active and lively thing on Portage.

[Jeff]

Scaffolding up on the northern side of 201 Portage at the top covering the RBC logo.. looks like the signage is getting changed out again. I'm guessing BMO to go along with their substantial investment/tenancy at the base of the tower.

[trueviking]

Not sure I’d call that horrific strip mall style bank branch substantial but you’re probably right.

[esquire]

They have been swapping out signs so often at the top of 201 Portage that they might as well just install a jumbotron up there and flash whatever the logo du jour happens to be.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by pmuhar

I just purchased 701 Ellice Ave. Would love to hear what you guys would like to see there in terms of redevelopment.

prolly a slab at grade building could start with one floor 1000sqft spaces like viking mentions with a design to add more imagin if u poked around u might find grants to create some affordable incubator spaces and if u build a 2-3 floor building maybe market small spaces for artists 400-500sqft rooms dunno if theres a model for live in studios or not but might be something worth looking into

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by Biff

East, it will tuck in between the brick portion of Tache hall and that new metal structure which includes a link to the middle block of Tache Hall.

Very surprised that they're angling a building into a tight space. Seems out of keeping with the U of M's sprawly tendencies. Wasn't the last big building they built out near pembina in their strip mall office plaza land? It's a strange campus. I went there once and we *drove* from the building I had a meeting in to another spot on campus for lunch.

Nice to see that there's a change to this whole approach.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

Very surprised that they're angling a building into a tight space. Seems out of keeping with the U of M's sprawly tendencies. Wasn't the last big building they built out near pembina in their strip mall office plaza land? It's a strange campus. I went there once and we *drove* from the building I had a meeting in to another spot on campus for lunch.

Nice to see that there's a change to this whole approach.

I’m guessing this will be an anomaly, they probably only did it like that because it makes sense to be close to the music faculty. They have too much land and a horrible recent track record I have zero faith future developments will continue to expand the current core campus feel that any respectable university should have.

[CoryB]

The thing with U of M as a student is that it really isn't a large, single school, but rather a bunch of small schools in geographic proximity to each other. Someone working on a science degree is highly unlikely to take a architecture class, and an architecture student is unlikely to take a music class, and a music student is unlikely to take a science class. By nature of the limited overlap of different disciplines of study there are much smaller clusters that occur on campus. The same happens on other campuses too.

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by CoryB

The thing with U of M as a student is that it really isn't a large, single school, but rather a bunch of small schools in geographic proximity to each other. Someone working on a science degree is highly unlikely to take a architecture class, and an architecture student is unlikely to take a music class, and a music student is unlikely to take a science class. By nature of the limited overlap of different disciplines of study there are much smaller clusters that occur on campus. The same happens on other campuses too.

My undergrad was at Dal (basically half a square km for the whole campus) so my reference point for how big and how spaced out a campus should be is shaped by that

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by buzzg

I’m guessing this will be an anomaly, they probably only did it like that because it makes sense to be close to the music faculty. They have too much land and a horrible recent track record I have zero faith future developments will continue to expand the current core campus feel that any respectable university should have.

I can't imagine the U of M would take up more room than it currently has for the core "teaching" campus. The last several builds were all located within this core. e.g. the active living centre, stanley pauley (engineering), ARTLab. Basically anything that is considered more academic will stay east of University Crescent, south of Sifton, and north of Freedman.

The sprawl is from the industries that have a strong research component where proximity to the experts in the field are needed. All that stuff west of University Crescent.

I can imagine the U of M was being generous in allowing these companies set up in a sprawling manner to help attract them and for the U of M to do something with the land. There is still plenty of space in that area that they could continue building like a suburban industrial park for the foreseeable future. The issue is when they max out the space and want to continue bringing in companies. Do they force the existing ones to give up their parking lots and green space?

Their planned community north of campus will be a lot more dense.

[Highwayman]

Originally Posted by WildCake

I can't imagine the U of M would take up more room than it currently has for the core "teaching" campus. The last several builds were all located within this core. e.g. the active living centre, stanley pauley (engineering), ARTLab. Basically anything that is considered more academic will stay east of University Crescent, south of Sifton, and north of Freedman.

The sprawl is from the industries that have a strong research component where proximity to the experts in the field are needed. All that stuff west of University Crescent.

I can imagine the U of M was being generous in allowing these companies set up in a sprawling manner to help attract them and for the U of M to do something with the land. There is still plenty of space in that area that they could continue building like a suburban industrial park for the foreseeable future. The issue is when they max out the space and want to continue bringing in companies. Do they force the existing ones to give up their parking lots and green space?

Their planned community north of campus will be a lot more dense.

The east side of the campus is filled with vast parking lots so they have alot of room still. Plus if they ever needed they could expand the flood dyke and they have an easy 100 acres east of it to do what they like. I'd prefer it stays agriculture like it is but they are far from hemmed in.

I also think it was a smart move to allow those businesses into that area. It gives a foot up for students and what not.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by WildCake

I can't imagine the U of M would take up more room than it currently has for the core "teaching" campus. The last several builds were all located within this core. e.g. the active living centre, stanley pauley (engineering), ARTLab. Basically anything that is considered more academic will stay east of University Crescent, south of Sifton, and north of Freedman.

The sprawl is from the industries that have a strong research component where proximity to the experts in the field are needed. All that stuff west of University Crescent.

I can imagine the U of M was being generous in allowing these companies set up in a sprawling manner to help attract them and for the U of M to do something with the land. There is still plenty of space in that area that they could continue building like a suburban industrial park for the foreseeable future. The issue is when they max out the space and want to continue bringing in companies. Do they force the existing ones to give up their parking lots and green space?

Their planned community north of campus will be a lot more dense.

Originally Posted by Highwayman

The east side of the campus is filled with vast parking lots so they have alot of room still. Plus if they ever needed they could expand the flood dyke and they have an easy 100 acres east of it to do what they like. I'd prefer it stays agriculture like it is but they are far from hemmed in.

I also think it was a smart move to allow those businesses into that area. It gives a foot up for students and what not.

There's no reason the U of M couldn't have just designed all the businesses and these other "Smart"park buildings to be built in an urban way along the street, and just put a ton of parking behind them for now. The big box style is ridiculous.

[DLLB]

Originally Posted by Biff

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