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[whatnext]

O’toole’s “concession” speech was easily the best speech of his campaign. If the Conservatives dump him now they’d be stupid.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

JT called the election with a 12% lead in the polls. O'Toole erased that lead, and held the CPC plurality in the vote share, and thwarted JTs plans for a majority government.

I consider that a win. JT held all the cards when the writ was dropped, and failed to deliver on it.

At the very least, JT is as much of a "loser" as O'Toole is.............

I'm quite sure that O'Toole will still be CPC leader in the next election given that his party got the most votes. He did attract more support outside the prairie provinces from what I can tell which is key.

As for Trudeau, it's difficult where to stay how things will go for him. The Liberals didn't lose anything and bought themselves some more time in government.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I also keep asking myself if a voting system that repeatedly denies government to the party with the most votes will be sustainable in the future, but perhaps the other posters have a point.

The Liberals have to contend with voter split every election, much more than the conservatives.

We have now reached the point that informal government coalition is the norm.

As a result, while the Conservatives have led the popular vote, overall progressive voters (Liberal, NDP, Green) far outnumber the right wing vote.

[Northern Light]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Even more interesting Kevin Vuong, the Liberal candidate in Spadina-Fort York who was punted due that 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 assault charge (dropped) is winning the riding!

NDP leading here now.....by 95 votes.....

But still only 58/129 polls reporting.......long night ahead for some election staff!

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by whatnext

O’toole’s “concession” speech was easily the best speech of his campaign. If the Conservatives dump him now they’d be stupid.

His only hope is to drag the Conservative party back to its 'Progressive Conservative' centrist roots. The days of the right wing Reform tax cutter movement are over as result of the pandemic. Shrinking government in a worldwide crises would have led to another 'Great Depression'.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Hmm, that's quite an interesting transition. The NDP and Greens are the only fed or provincial parties I've ever voted for, yet somehow it never occurred to me to consider the PPC.

There's a certain segment of NDP and Green voters that are mainly protest voters who will vote PPC if they see it as the best protest party. Last I checked, the PPC is at 14% in my Northeastern Ontario riding which is full of protest voters who usually would vote NDP.

[SkeggsEggs]

Some very close results in Kitchener-Conestoga, Davenport, Spadina-Fort York, Berthier-Maskinonge, will be interesting how these turn out when all the polls are in and after the mail-in votes are counted tomorrow.

[whatnext]

Of course ignored by the eastern media, the Liberals managed to pry 3 Metro Vancouver seats from the Conservatives, probably the greatest area of seat gain for the party.

[janbe74]

How long will this minority last?

[SkeggsEggs]

Originally Posted by janbe74

How long will this minority last?

At least 18 months is a safe bet!

[Rollerstud98]

Originally Posted by janbe74

How long will this minority last?

Clearly you did not work hard enough this election, how are you not too ashamed to show yourself in the forum here?

[whatnext]

I can’t believe we’re having to listen to someone as irrelevant nationally as Blanchet for longer than O’Toole!

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

The Liberals have to contend with voter split every election, much more than the conservatives.

We have now reached the point that informal government coalition is the norm.

As a result, while the Conservatives have led the popular vote, overall progressive voters (Liberal, NDP, Green) far outnumber the right wing vote.

I actually don't mind informal coalitions.

Also I get your point that this might actually be a best case scenario for the Tories.

[SpongeG]

in my riding NDP is winning over the incumbent PC

[Acajack]

Brosseau now 2nd behind the Bloc guy.

[Chadillaccc]

There’s a bunch of young people running around downtown Calgary cheering about the liberal victory tonight. Oddly enough as we lost in Centre and Confederation, though it looks like we will take Skyview. Still very nice to see the excitement despite how ridiculous this election was from its inception.

It appears that the conservatives have lost four - liberal gain 2, NDP gain 1, NDP hold 1 - seats in Alberta, a pretty huge upset considering their identical standing to 2019, losing a considerable part of their support base in urban Alberta.

So delighted to see Burneeyayyyy get 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 SPANKED in his riding, and then hilariously partying in Saskatchewan because he thought there was no mask mandate, though there was I mean, was that worth $600 million? No, but it definitely rubs some soothing salve on the sting.


Edit: George Chahal confirmed elected in Calgary Skyview.

[Acajack]

Bloc popular vote now higher than Liberal in Quebec. But Libs have 2 more seats.

Very few polls had the Bloc higher during the campaign.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I can’t believe we’re having to listen to someone as irrelevant nationally as Blanchet for longer than O’Toole!

On behalf of Québec, please accept our apologies for existing.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Acajack

On behalf of Québec, please accept our apologies for existing.

The Bloc is never going to run a candidate outside of the Province of Quebec, unlike every other party. There’s no need to cover his speech nationally.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by janbe74

How long will this minority last?

It'll last until JT decides he's got yet another $600M burning a hole in our collective pocket...?