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Old Posted Aug 18, 2021, 6:58 PM
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O-Train Service Update. In this short video discussion with Troy Charter, Director of Transit Operations, we touch on the August 8th service incident, and the facts and investigations that continue to take place into the root cause.

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O-Train Service Update. In this short video discussion with Troy Charter, Director of Transit Operations, we touch on the August 8th service incident, and the facts and investigations that continue to take place into the root cause.

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Old Posted Aug 19, 2021, 3:06 AM
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Ninth O-Train vehicle pulled from service for additional inspections

Staff Reporter, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Aug 18, 2021 • 4 hours ago • 2 minute read


A ninth single-car LRT vehicle will be subject to “additional analysis” before returning to service, the city announced Wednesday, as the line’s operator continued to investigate the cause of a derailment earlier this month that halted trains across the Confederation Line.

In a memo to council and the transit commission, transportation general manager John Manconi said Rideau Transit Group informed the City of Ottawa of its decision to further inspect the axle assembly of the vehicle Wednesday morning.

RTG, Manconi wrote, has begun “implementing the necessary repairs” to the nine cars, with work expected to continue throughout the week. Once inspections are completed, the trains will return to service.

The investigation into the “root cause” of the derailment is ongoing, Manconi said, and a “fulsome update” on the probe will be presented at the next transit commission meeting scheduled for Sept. 20.

“The number of trains cleared for service may continue to fluctuate as the inspections and root cause investigation process continue,” Manconi wrote.

“Again, all vehicles that are in service have passed the safety inspection process and will continue to be re-inspected at regular intervals.”

According to the city, 37 of the 39 individual cars in the fleet have been inspected, with the only two remaining being the vehicle involved in the derailment and another already out of commission because of unrelated maintenance.

RTG started on Wednesday running nine double-car trains on the Confederation Line with one train held back in the yard due to what the company called an “error code indicator, unrelated to the ongoing wheel-axle inspections.” However, two additional trains were sent out throughout the day.

Maintenance crews have been inspecting the fleet of Alstom Citadis Spirit trains since one of them derailed on Aug. 8 because of a failure in an axle bearing unit.

The derailment occurred when a train at Tunney’s Pasture was being returned empty to the RTG yard on Belfast Road. The driver stopped the train after noticing it riding roughly on the rails. When it was finally moved to the maintenance yard, workers found a bolt in the axle bearing unit had loosened by “fractions of a millimetre,” damaging the bearing and causing one of the train’s 10 sets of wheels to come off the track.

All O-Train service was shut down for five days and the trains didn’t start running again until the morning of Aug. 14.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...-from-service-for-additional-inspections
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2021, 3:10 AM
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LRT investigation finds 10th train in need of axle repair
A quarter of LRT fleet needs fixed

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Posted: Aug 18, 2021 6:19 PM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago


Ten train cars in OC Transpo's LRT fleet now need repairs, according to the investigation into a broken axle that shut down the Confederation Line for a week.

The tenth single car was flagged on Wednesday morning as investigators want another look at its axle, according to a memo by the City of Ottawa.

Rideau Transit Maintenance has started repairs on the cars — a process expected to continue throughout the week. As the vehicles are repaired, they will be inspected and returned to service.

Nine cars, plus the one that's wheel snap off, have to be repaired. The LRT has 39 cars, which means more than a quarter need fixed.

All but two of the cars have now been inspected and the pair that remain include the train that was broken and another that is undergoing unrelated maintenance. Once maintenance is done, it will be inspected.

The first train found to have a broken axle will undergo more detailed analysis and inspections to determine the root cause of the issue. That investigation is not expected to wrap up any time soon.

Wednesday's morning service had nine double-cars on the line and by the end of the day there were 11. The City of Ottawa says customers can expect a train every five minutes.

One train was held in the yard Wednesday morning because of an error code indicator the city says is unrelated to the ongoing wheel-axle inspections.

After requests from three city councillors for an emergency transit meeting were denied, the city says a detailed update on the investigation will be presented at the regularly-scheduled transit commission meeting on Sept. 20.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/lrt-oc-transpo-axle-repair-1.6145497
     
     
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Former rail inspector 'concerned' about Ottawa LRT axle issues
Bearings should last for 10 years minimum, according to former TSB investigator

Matthew Kupfer, Joanne Chianello · CBC News
Posted: Aug 21, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 12 hours ago


The ongoing axle bearing issues with Ottawa's light-rail trains is cause for concern, according to the former head of federal rail investigations.

Ten train cars in OC Transpo's fleet of 39 are currently in need of repair following an investigation into a broken axle that shut down the O-Train Confederation line for almost a week earlier this month.

Ian Naish, a transportation safety consultant who used to work for the Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB), says the defect should not be happening after only two years in service.

"You'll design bearings such as these for a 10-year minimum period before failure and/or expected failure," Naish told the CBC's Joanne Chianello.

Naish said the fact almost one-quarter of the Alstom trains were removed from service could point to a larger issue with the design of the transit system, manufacturing, assembly or maintenance.

"That should not be happening at all. And so would I be concerned? Yes, I would," he said.

Earlier this week, Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson and the chair of the transit commission, Allan Hubley, rejected calls for an emergency meeting to discuss the LRT shutdown, the ongoing TSB investigation, and issues with double-decker buses.

Instead, the pair said daily memos from the City of Ottawa on the response to the axle-bearing issues were sufficient, and OC Transpo needs to focus on fixing the LRT instead of reporting to city councillors.

The next transit commission meeting is currently scheduled for Sept. 20.

Several questions do remain, including details about what issues were discovered on other trains and the sort of repairs that were conducted.

Based on the information available about what led to the wheel snapping off a train, Naish said an axle bearing — connecting either end of the axle to a wheel — was not properly installed, which could pose an ongoing risk.

"Something's going to break and the wheel's going to come off because everything is seized up," Naish said.

Rideau Transit Maintenance has begun regular, planned inspections of each rail car to make sure they're safe to operate until the "root cause analysis" is completed to address problems with the axle bearings more permanently, according to a City of Ottawa memo released Friday.

John Manconi, general manager of transportation services, said in the memo all vehicles in service have passed the inspection process and are being inspected and monitored on an ongoing basis.

Another train is now under repair after it suddenly stopped on the tracks between Tremblay and Hurdman stations around 2 p.m. Friday.

"The train's brakes activated, the train came to a sudden stop, and the brakes did not release," Troy Charter, the city's director of transit operations wrote in an email to CBC.

That train is now in OC Transpo's maintenance facility where the issue will be diagnosed, but Charter said it's unrelated to the axle-bearing problem of the other cars.

Manconi said the nine single cars currently out of service will return as repairs and new inspections are completed.

The car with the broken wheel will take longer, though, and it is part of determining the cause of the issue, he added.

The transit commission will get the results of that investigation at next month's meeting, but that is too long to wait, according to several commission members.

Coun. Catherine McKenney said daily memos are no replacement for asking staff questions in a public forum, and councillors Shawn Menard and Carol-Anne Meehan have not been able to get the answers they've wanted from staff.

"It's deeply concerning that we cannot get answers to questions designed to keep our residents who rely on transit safe," McKenney said, adding people who use the train on a regular basis often have no alternative and deserve answers.

The transit commission is split on the idea of an emergency meeting. Coun. Tim Tierney said he does have questions for the Sept. 20 meeting about root causes, but would support a special meeting if there is another disruption in service.

Councillors Glen Gower, Jean Cloutier and Jenna Sudds — the latter of whom is on unpaid leave while running in the federal election — said they're satisfied with the responsiveness of OC Transpo staff.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-lrt-axle-bearing-train-inspector-1.6148042
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 27, 2021, 1:23 AM
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'Coupler' issue stalls LRT train at Lyon Station

Staff Reporter, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Aug 26, 2021 • 4 hours ago • 1 minute read


LRT service was slowed for about an hour Thursday morning after a “coupler issue” stalled a train at Lyon Station at about 6 a.m.

According to city transportation boss John Manconi, an eastbound train experienced the problem upon entering Lyon Station and was safely brought to a stop inside the station, where riders disembarked.

The couplers include sensors that allow the two cars in a double-train to communicate with each other.

A Rideau Transit Maintenance (RTM) technician arrived to remove the train from service and it was taken to the maintenance facility for diagnosis and repairs.

Manconi said in the memo the problem was not related to axle-bearing issue that shut down the system for a week two weeks ago after an axle on one train broke and derailed.

During Thursday’s incident, service continued on the line, with trains shunted around the incident,

“Some customers may have experienced longer travel times as they were required to transfer at Lyon Station to continue their journey,” Manconi noted.

Separately, at about 7 a.m., a train at Blair Station experienced an issue with its heating and cooling system.

“Due to the current and anticipated temperatures (Thursday), the train was removed from the line … at around 7:30am, without affecting ongoing rail service.”

Manconi said the LRT Line 1 is operating with 10 trains, providing service every five to six minutes.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/coupler-issue-stalls-lrt-train-at-lyon-station
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2021, 4:51 AM
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Just rode the Canada line in Vancouver. No shaking and grinding on curves like near Hurdman station
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2021, 12:54 PM
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Just rode the Canada line in Vancouver. No shaking and grinding on curves like near Hurdman station
Can't say the same about Expo and Millennium. I don't remember them being quite as bad as the Hurdman curve, but overall worse than the rest of Confed.
     
     
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I rode the expo for a few stops a month ago and enjoyed the o-train more. (usually only ride Tunney's as far as Rideau)
     
     
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IIRC, the line 1 U-curve at Union in Toronto is even worse than the Hurdman curve, but it's hard to say for sure based off memory.
     
     
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IIRC, the line 1 U-curve at Union in Toronto is even worse than the Hurdman curve, but it's hard to say for sure based off memory.
In terms of "grinding" screeching sounds, Union is worse overall.

The Confederation Line has quite a few problems with low-frequency vibrations and rumbling though, but it's very inconsistent across the line. Some curves have it, some don't, some used to have it and now don't while others didn't and now do. I think it's something they can get rid of, but they're clearly struggling with it.

The screeching is completely normal and not at all unreasonable, especially compared to other systems.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2021, 4:48 PM
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Agreed. Confederation line has its problems but I wouldn't consider screeching and vibrations to be one of them. Ya, it can be a little unpleasant at times, but as you said, it's quite common for such systems.
     
     
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Video of PM Rush Hour trains departing the Belfast MSF to enter service

This video was taken on September 16, 2021 at Tremblay Road Overpass that crosses over the LRT tracks (in the area of Belfast Rd/Tremblay Rd).

If anyone haven't had a chance to witness trains leaving the Belfast Maintenance Storage Facility (MSF) in the afternoon for the PM Rush Hour, be sure watch this video as it will include one train departing the MSF going east towards St. Laurent Station, and another train departing the MSF going west towards Tremblay Station. 

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A new derailment has occurred just west of Riverside Drive and east of the curve near Hurdman. Weather clear and dry with mild temperatures. From pictures on Twitter the derailment looks pretty dramatic. No injuries reported. But there’s substantial damage to the train, switch box and other infrastructure. Looks like Line 1 will be down for many days.
     
     
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Was on R1 driving by. There's a hole/gash on the side of the train.
     
     
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A new derailment has occurred just west of Riverside Drive and east of the curve near Hurdman. Weather clear and dry with mild temperatures. From pictures on Twitter the derailment looks pretty dramatic. No injuries reported. But there’s substantial damage to the train, switch box and other infrastructure. Looks like Line 1 will be down for many days.
We don't seem to hear of derailments of other RT in Canada. Why is this line so problematic?
     
     
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We don't seem to hear of derailments of other RT in Canada. Why is this line so problematic?
The TTC Subway derailed last June, the last major CTrain derailment was in 2016. Of course ETS and CTrain also have at least one collision with a car each year, and TTC and the Metro and Skytrain have lots of shutdowns due to suicides, and the Skytrain in particular has had stuck trains in snow

Having not lived in those cities I can't tell if we're worse than average or not. As a tourist you aren't aware of what it's like like on the daily grind in those places.
     
     
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The TTC Subway derailed last June, the last major CTrain derailment was in 2016. Of course ETS and CTrain also have at least one collision with a car each year, and TTC and the Metro and Skytrain have lots of shutdowns due to suicides, and the Skytrain in particular has had stuck trains in snow

Having not lived in those cities I can't tell if we're worse than average or not. As a tourist you aren't aware of what it's like like on the daily grind in those places.
The Ion is the other new line in Canada. I haven't been hearing the derailment of it. Snow stopping a train in an area that doesn't normally get snow is not a surprise. Neither is issues caused by suicides.
     
     
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More LRT problems as train derails near Tremblay station

Andrew Duffy, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Sep 19, 2021 • 51 minutes ago • 3 minute read


Ottawa’s problem-plagued LRT suffered more trouble Sunday when a westbound train on the Confederation Line derailed west of Tremblay station.

No one was injured in the 12:27 p.m. accident, near Riverside Drive, but one train car was significantly damaged after apparently colliding with a signal box next to the tracks. Several panels on one train car were ripped from the vehicle, a window was shattered and the signal box was bent and broken.

“A couple of bumps, and it came to a stop,” one passenger told Coun. Jeff Leiper after the accident. Leiper posted the passenger’s comments and the passenger’s photo of the derailed train on Twitter.

It is the second time in six weeks that one of the city’s LRT trains has left the tracks.

The City of Ottawa released a brief statement on the incident. “A train became immobilized between Tremblay and Hurdman Stations due to a derailment,” said Tory Charter, the city’s director of transit operations. “There were no injuries and all passengers have been accommodated.”

As a precautionary measure, he added, service on the 12.5-kilometre Confederation Line has been suspended and buses deployed to serve passengers between Rideau and Blair stations.

It’s not clear how long the LRT service will be shut down.

Mayor Jim Watson said Sunday that city staff are gathering information on the derailment and will provide “a full briefing” on what is known about the accident to the city’s transit commission Monday morning. That briefing, he said, will be available to the public on the city’s YouTube channel.

OC Transpo officials immediately de-energized the train after the noon-hour accident, and Ottawa Fire Services helped evacuate passengers. Fire crews remained on scene to ensure the train would not require stabilization.

Toby Allard, 14, was one of the first to arrive on the scene on his bicycle. He said about 20 passengers were taken off the train. “People were obviously panicked,” he said, “but no one was hurt.”

Allard and another frequent LRT passenger said they both noticed the train often “shudders” or vibrates as it rounds the turn west of Riverside Drive.

Ottawa police maintained control of the scene to ensure nothing was moved before accident investigators arrived.

John Manconi, the soon-to-retire general manager of OC Transpo, said the Transportation Safety Board of Canada was notified of the derailment.

“The next steps are an assessment of the situation by the technical teams,” Manconi said in a statement. “We are waiting for TSB investigators to provide clearance to undertake the inspection of the derailment.”

TSB investigators have already probed cracked wheels and loose axle bearings on the city’s LRT vehicles during the past year.

Earlier this summer, councillors Catherine McKenney and Diane Deans asked that an emergency meeting of the city’s transit commission be called to discuss the Aug. 8 LRT derailment, attributed to a loose axle bearing, and other issues. Their request was rejected.

McKenney reacted to the latest accident Sunday on Twitter: “Another LRT derailment,” McKenney said. “Looks like we are getting that emergency meeting after all. Tomorrow’s Transit Commission must respond to this P3 (public-private partnership) failure. This is an embarrassment for Ottawa.”

Serving 13 stations, the $2.1 billion Confederation Line recently celebrated its second anniversary, but it has been lightly used for much of that time because of the pandemic.

Still, problems persist. It was shut down last month for five days following the derailment on Aug. 8 caused by a loose axle bearing on an out-of-service train.

After a fleet inspection by Rideau Transit Maintenance (RTM), 10 train cars were sent for repairs to their axle assemblies.

There was another issue on Aug. 24 when early morning LRT service in part of the western stretch switched to replacement buses because a westbound train unexpectedly stopped between Pimisi and Bayview stations. Customers on the disabled train had to be transferred to another train. The backup buses ran for about an hour before regular train service resumed around 6:45 a.m. Defective trains also delayed LRT service at times on Aug. 20 and Aug. 26.

— With files from Jon Willing









https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...-tremblay-station-r1-bus-service-running
     
     
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We don't seem to hear of derailments of other RT in Canada. Why is this line so problematic?
If a camel is a horse designed by committee, then our O Train Line 1 is a metro designed by parsimonious myopes.

From what I understand the rolling stock is adapted for purposes that it was never designed. And the switches and other infrastructure came from the <lowest most compliant bidder> school of government acquisitions.
     
     
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