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[ethereal_reality]

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Here's another tract, or development, this time in the Pacific Palisades.


Huntington Archive............Riviera Development, Pacific Palisades....Los Angeles 1926





Let's take a closer look.



As you can see the development area in the foreground is void of houses but there are several structures across the (unnamed) road.



A rather impressive home.









and a few more on the far right.



I suspect the small sign on the near-side of the road is advertising the new development.

^ ^ oops. I just realized I cropped out two men standing by their cars looking at the land.


Here they are on the left side. The before mentioned sign is in the center.



A prospective buyer?

or have they noticed the dead body beneath the white sheet?
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[ethereal_reality]

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I just found one more structure. . .



. . .and a tree with perhaps a man hanging standing under it.





P.S. If anyone noticed the small white 'spot' on the left in the panorama photograph it is a shaved off side of a hill.



See, what did I tell ya.

Now find that shaved-off hill.

I'm just kidding.
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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This photograph caught my eye because the stand alone house looks like a little movie set.


old er file

"A house in the new Glen Oaks Tract, built up close to the canyon wall."

I believe the Glen Oaks tract was situated somewhere between Glendale and Pasadena but the photograph shows a pretty big canyon wall so it threw me for a loop.

It looks like 2340 E Glenoaks Boulevard.


Google Maps

BTW. The top image is part of the Security Pacific National Bank Collection at LAPL.

[Hollywood Graham]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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This photograph caught my eye because the stand alone house looks like a little movie set.



old er file

"A house in the new Glen Oaks Tract, built up close to the canyon wall."


I believe the Glen Oaks tract was situated somewhere between Glendale and Pasadena but the photograph shows a pretty big canyon wall so it threw me for a loop.



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I believe it is N. of Glendale almost to La Cresenta and Montrose.

[Noir_Noir]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Here's another tract, or development, this time in the Pacific Palisades.


Huntington Archive............Riviera Development, Pacific Palisades....Los Angeles 1926

Frank Meline Co. California Riviera tract office.



huntington.org


raremaps.com


The tract office was close to the corner of present day Sunset Blvd. and Capri Drive.






Google Maps

[odinthor]

I was visiting one of my favorite sites, the Online Etymology Dictionary, and was startled to see at the top of the page of one of the postings an old friend, the cactus in front of the Round House, which structure was located on the west side of Main St. between 3rd and 4th.

https://www.etymonline.com/columns/post/superstitious-understanding

--which of course turned my thoughts to said Round House (not to be confused with the round Panorama Building, which was on the east side of the street); and just for fun, I looked at the Wikipedia article on it, which wrongly states that it was "torn down in 1889." Well, no it wasn't, Wikipedia, no it wasn't.

Let's start with a picture of the place as it looked early on:


odinthor collection

The forecast:


LA Times, July 2, 1886.

The auction announcement:


LA Herald, July 2, 1886.

But that was not the end of the Round House! It went to Boyle Heights, or was confidently supposed to be going to Boyle Heights (the wording perhaps suggests that the someone who bought it at auction at least intended to move it there; but, as we will see in a moment, it could not have actually been there yet):


LA Herald, July 8, 1886.

But the tear-down was not actually taking place until August 5th:


LA Times, August 5, 1886.

I know of nothing further about it being in Boyle Heights. Can anyone ferret out if it was ever actually erected there, and in what location, or at least who the purchaser was? (It could be that it in taking it apart at the Main St. site, it was found to be in too poor condition for further use.)

But it was not "torn down in 1889."

[Herrenz]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham

I believe it is N. of Glendale almost to La Cresenta and Montrose.

It's actually sort of east Glendale (right above Eagle Rock). It's one of the two canyons that connect to the North Arroyo part of Pasadena. There's some great architecture in these canyons, including two Lloyd Wrights.

Here's a photo of the tract in the 20s. I found it on a vintage Glendale Facebook group a while ago.





Google Maps

[ethereal_reality]

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Here's a closer look at the 'Glen Oaks Tract' house.





As you can see (below) the house still has its original shutters!

found by HossC

GSV

I am surprised this little house survived all these years. (a hundred years perhaps!)

I imagine the owners would love to see the old LAPL photograph.


Thanks for locating the house, Hoss!


And thanks to Herrenz for the very informative follow-up post.
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[ethereal_reality]

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RE:...California Riviera tract.

Noir Noir, you certainly discovered a wealth of information.

I had noticed the signs atop the ranch style building (shown below) but I didn't connect it to the tract. ..... I guess because it was across the road.


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I was struck by this excellent photograph of the sells office.

Originally posted by Noir Noir

huntington collection





It looks like this poor gentleman on the left is getting the hard sell from one of the agents.


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It appears to be busy inside.




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[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by Herrenz

It's actually sort of east Glendale (right above Eagle Rock). It's one of the two canyons that connect to the North Arroyo part of Pasadena. There's some great architecture in these canyons, including two Lloyd Wrights.

Correct, Glenoaks goes up the canyon east of Glendale to a golf course on a landfill. I believe the Llyod Wrights are on Chevy Chase which is north of Glenoaks and heads northeast to La Canada Flintridge.

[Lwize]

Historic Herald Examiner building reopens in downtown L.A. - Los Angeles Times


(heraldexaminerbuilding.com)

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2...ner-newspaper-opens-downtown-los-angeles

http://www.heraldexaminerbuilding.com/

[ethereal_reality]

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Warning: Meandering post and somewhat disorganized.

Originally Posted by odinthor

I know of nothing further about the Round House being in Boyle Heights. Can anyone ferret out if it was ever actually erected there, and in what location, or at least who the purchaser was? (It could be that it in taking it apart at the Main St. site, it was found to be in too poor condition for further use.)

odinthor your post about the Round House having been moved to Boyle House was certainly intriguing.

Especially your newspaper excerpt (shown below) that pretty much said the Round House was already in Boyle Heights.

Originally posted by odinthor

LA Herald, July 8, 1886.

Originally Posted by odinthor

But the tear-down was not actually taking place until August 5th:


LA Times, August 5, 1886.

What if the author had simply meant to say "has been" instead of "is being". ...I guess we'll never know.

I found just one reference to the move to Boyle Heights in a article - Here


KCET





Here's a Round House post (with a photograph) from back in 2013, Link. . .before it was a drinking establishment. . .before it was the 'Garden of Paradise'. . .and before it was briefly a kindergarten.

By the time it was a drinking establishment and surrounded by Lehman's Garden of Paradise the roof had been extended out over the building like an umbrella and a second story balcony was added as well.



If you look closely the sign reads Garden of Paradise.



Lehman's Garden of Paradise (sometimes referred to as Lehman's Garden of Eden) included statuary of Adam & Eve & Cain & Abel. There was even a Serpent up in an orange tree!

One account that I found mentioned a Flying Horse on a "framework" (like a swing?). A later account mentions Flying Horses (PLURAL) and places them on a carousel.

Sadly, no one knows what happened to the statuary or the carousel.











Postscript:...I would be remiss if I didn't mention the person who built the round house (pre-George Lehman)


The Round House was built by Ramón Alexander, an ex-sailor who was shipwrecked near San Pedro in 1848. The structure was made out of adobe brick (water and loam)

"Adobe yearns to return to the state of mud. Adobe houses have to be protected or they melt in the rain. Alexander’s solution was a cone-shaped, shingled roof that made a skirt about 10 feet wide around his round house. The roof was a wooden umbrella that was another story tall. The roof and its supports created a porch at the ground floor and a circular veranda on the second."....KCET

I initially thought George Lehman added the wider roof and balcony.

And it appears a flagpole was added to the top of the roof in March of 1860. (the photographs that I have seen show a weathervane at the top)



Hmm. .so what flag was flown? Old Glory or a German flag?





Oh, & one more thing. . .
tovanger2 includes alot of this same information in her post, Here.
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[CaliNative]

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[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by Herrenz

It's actually sort of east Glendale (right above Eagle Rock). It's one of the two canyons that connect to the North Arroyo part of Pasadena. There's some great architecture in these canyons, including two Lloyd Wrights.

Here's a photo of the tract in the 20s. I found it on a vintage Glendale Facebook group a while ago.





Google Maps

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I wonder how many of those nice oak woods are left? Descanso Gardens nearby still has nice examples. But decades of urbanization, drought and wildfires have taken a toll on the oaks, sycamores, walnuts, bay laurels, alders, conifers at higher elevations and other native trees of L.A., which used to be widespread, especially near the hills, mountains and streams. Parts of Los Angeles and environs were once an "oak land".

[CaliNative]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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This photograph caught my eye because the stand alone house looks like a little movie set.



old er file

"A house in the new Glen Oaks Tract, built up close to the canyon wall."


I believe the Glen Oaks tract was situated somewhere between Glendale and Pasadena but the photograph shows a pretty big canyon wall so it threw me for a loop.


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Look at those dense oak woods and high thick chaparral behind the house.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by odinthor

--which of course turned my thoughts to said Round House (not to be confused with the round Panorama Building, which was on the east side of the street); and just for fun, I looked at the Wikipedia article on it, which wrongly states that it was "torn down in 1889." Well, no it wasn't, Wikipedia, no it wasn't.

Let's start with a picture of the place as it looked early on:


odinthor collection


But that was not the end of the Round House! It went to Boyle Heights, or was confidently supposed to be going to Boyle Heights (the wording perhaps suggests that the someone who bought it at auction at least intended to move it there; but, as we will see in a moment, it could not have actually been there yet):


LA Herald, July 8, 1886.

But the tear-down was not actually taking place until August 5th:


LA Times, August 5, 1886.

I know of nothing further about it being in Boyle Heights. Can anyone ferret out if it was ever actually erected there, and in what location, or at least who the purchaser was? (It could be that it in taking it apart at the Main St. site, it was found to be in too poor condition for further use.)

But it was not "torn down in 1889."

Here are three reasons to doubt the veracity of the article that says the Round House was moved to Boyle Heights:
1) it appears to be the only one that does.
2) the first part of that article talks about there being a log cabin from the 1840s on Main Street, which I think is at least questionable. So maybe
the whole article is a lot of hooey.
3) the Los Angeles correspondent of San Francisco's The Elevator reported on September 1, 1886, that the Round House had been demolished.

While I couldn't find who bought the Round House, I managed to find who owned the Round House property on Main Street:



November 24, 1882, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC/UCR


Archibald Lothian died on February 21, 1883. Isaac A. Lothian filed for a quit claim deed on the Round House property at the end of the year.



December 30, 1883, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC/UCR


And then there are these; perhaps the old Round House lot was subdivided?:






(Both) April 6, 1886, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC/UCR


I hope some of this has been helpful, odinthor.

[odinthor]

Many thanks, FW! Very useful information.

I can add something about the log cabin:


LA Herald, July 8, 1886.

[ethereal_reality]

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Here's a map that shows the Glen Oaks Tract. (1927)


LAPL


"A map showing the location of the new Glen Oaks Tract in Glendale, located in the northeast portion. It states, "Glen Oaks has an ideal climate with a daily cool breeze direct from the ocean." Also, "Five great viaducts will soon permit a choice of easy routes from downtown Los Angeles or Hollywood to Glen Oaks." The bridges are indicated on the map."


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[ethereal_reality]

This photograph caught my eye a month or so ago on eBay. I believe the description was "Los Angeles area"....(the license plate is California)


Ebay

I see that the dapper man is wearing driving gloves.



The smaller plate on the bumper looks like it contains Chinese characters



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. .or Phoenician.


(I doubt it's Phoenician)
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[odinthor]

I see a possible connection between George Lehman, of the Round House, and Elijah H. Workman, who moved the log cabin from Main St. to his residence on Boyle Heights (address 120 S. Boyle):

In this, "the park" refers to what is now Pershing Square.


LA Herald, July 16, 1897

And whom were the trees largely from? Elijah H. Workman:


LA Herald, July 18, 1906

A later reflection:


LA Times, June 24, 1931

Speculation: Lehman's helping to plant the trees and later special efforts to water the trees or tree seedlings which were supplied by Workman perhaps grew from a friendship between the two, or at least could hardly not have engendered subsequent good feelings between the two. Workman having already just moved a log cabin from Main St. to Boyle Heights, he may well have been in a mood to honor his now-deceased friend by also moving a structure so associated with that friend Lehman, the Round House. I suspect, then, that it was Workman who bought the place and, now possessing it via owning the structure (hence the line in the article that Boyle Heights "possesses" the Round House), let his plans about moving it to Boyle Heights be known, and so it was already looked on by at least one reporter as being a certainty. Going further out on a limb, I then suspect that, when it came time to actually take down the Round House and prepare it for moving, it was found that it was in too bad shape for the move and/or to be re-erected, and so the plans were dropped.