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[Randomguy34]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

So 70% of the "out of towners" (which represent half of new downtown renters) that are renting apartments downtown are actually coming from out of State

Originally Posted by marothisu

Crains had a new op ed which states that thru the first 7 months of 2021, condo sales in The Loop are up 51% compared to the same time in 2019.

These two points pretty much explain this year's flood of new apartments planned for Fulton Market. The crop of mega developments breaking ground in the Fall should help fill the dip in supply from last year

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by Randomguy34

These two points pretty much explain this year's flood of new apartments planned for Fulton Market. The crop of mega developments breaking ground in the Fall should help fill the dip in supply from last year

As someone coming back to the city from elsewhere, I really wish there were more "luxury" buildings available in Lincoln Park, Lakeview, Lincoln Square, etc too. I feel like areas like Wicker Park, West Loop, and Logan Square have done a better job of accounting for this.

Kind of looking forward more to buying a nice condo now

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by marothisu

As someone coming back to the city from elsewhere, I really wish there were more "luxury" buildings available in Lincoln Park, Lakeview, Lincoln Square, etc too. I feel like areas like Wicker Park, West Loop, and Logan Square have done a better job of accounting for this.

Kind of looking forward more to buying a nice condo now

Wait, so you and your wife are officially moving back now? Nice! (although, I feel like you already indicated that before; I forget things..)
Yeah, a condo may be more affordable, relative to a nice apartment.

[lakeshoredrive]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Crains had a new op ed which states that thru the first 7 months of 2021, condo sales in The Loop are up 51% compared to the same time in 2019.

1) I take The Loop as the actual community area which extends all the way down to Roosevelt. Part of South Loop is actually part of The Loop CA.

2) I wonder what the net effect on population is compared to the height of the pandemic.

I hope this can be good news for Tribune East. Also the news about St. Regis doing well with their condos being sold. This could give them the financing needed to start construction on the building.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by sentinel

Wait, so you and your wife are officially moving back now? Nice! (although, I feel like you already indicated that before; I forget things..)
Yeah, a condo may be more affordable, relative to a nice apartment.

Yeah - it's been official for awhile. There were just some things timing wise that have delayed things a bit. I've been actively hiring more people in Chicago though this whole time.

Still have to sign on to a place but we have a few prospects.

[the urban politician]

^ I recommend One Chicago. Rent there.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ I recommend One Chicago. Rent there.

Was going to, until my wife decided having a bath instead of stand up shower is important. None of the 1 bedrooms have it.


Ugh.

[Kenmore]

as someone who deeply enjoys the book, bath, j combo, the elimination of baths in new construction is an oversight

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by Kenmore

as someone who deeply enjoys the book, bath, j combo, the elimination of baths in new construction is an oversight

I mean, I like a good bath too. She didn't care about it though 2 months ago and now, yup. Oh well..

[moorhosj1]

Originally Posted by marothisu

I mean, I like a good bath too. She didn't care about it though 2 months ago and now, yup. Oh well..

She thinking about having kids soon? That’s why we required one during our last move.

[marothisu]

Take a look at the newest Census numbers vs. the 2019 estimates, it's interesting to see just how close or far off some of the community areas were.

In this listing, a number of negative means that the 2019 estimates are that many people underestimated from the 2020 real number. A positive means the Census overestimated. Yes I understand it's 2019 vs. 2020. Still interesting to look at.

1. Near North Side: -12,163 people (-11.53%)
2. Near West Side: -4711 (-6.94%)
3. Chicago Lawn: -4579 (-8.19%)
4. New City: -4185 (-9.59%)
5. Near South Side: -4066 (-14.12%)
6. The Loop: -3643 (-8.61%)
7. West Englewood: -3301 (-11.13%)
8. West Town: -3083 (-3.51%)
9. Austin: -2830 (-2.93%)
10. North Lawndale: -272 (-7.82%)1
11. Grand Boulevard: -2380 (-9.68%)
12. Gage Park: -2062 (-5.21%)
13. Hyde Park: -1974 (--6.7%)
14. West Lawn: -1776 (-5.28%)
15. Woodlawn: -1170 (-7.25%)
16. Washington Park: -1738 (-13.68%)
17. Lake View: -1734 (-1.68%)
18. South Shore: -1517 (-2.81%)
19. Englewood: -1448 (-5.94%)
20. Greater Grand Crossing: -1322 (-4.2%)
21. Kenwood: -1162 (-5.29%)
22. East Garfield Park: -1058 (-5.29%)
23. Lincoln Park: -1027 (-1.46%)
24. West Garfield Park: -1012 (-5.81%)
25. Hegewisch: -906 (-9.04%)
26. Brighton Park: -897 (-1.99%)
27. McKinley Park: -746 (-4.69%)
28. Chatham: -701 (-2.21%)
29. Hermosa: -581 (-2.41%)
30. Lower West Side: -548 (-1.62%)
31. Burnside: -521 (-20.62%)
32. Archer Heights: -495 (-3.49%)
33. Edison Park: -413 (-3.58%)
34. O'Hare -343 (-2.56%)
35. Armour Square: -292 (-2.1%)
36. Calumet Heights: -273 (-2.09%)
37. Beverly: -236 (-1.18%)
38. Norwood Park: -219 (-0.57%)
39. Forest Glen: -191 (-0.97%)
40. Fuller Park: -172 (-6.7%)
41. Rogers Park: -153 (-0.27%)
42. Morgan Park: -118 (-0.56%)
43. Montclare: -83 (-0.58%)
44. Pullman: +20 (+0.29%)
45. Riverdale: +97 (+1.34%)
46. Avalon Park: +213 (+2.25%)
47. Dunning: +298 (+0.69%)
48. Roseland: +346 (+0.89%)
49. Oakland: +428 (+6.3%)
50. North Center: +429 (+1.22%)
51. Belmont Cragin: +434 (+0.56%)
52. Clearing: +503 (+2.06%)
53. Mount Greenwood: +562 (+3.02%)
54. Logan Square: +671 (+0.94%)
55. West Elsdon: +757 (+4.12%)
56. South Lawndale: +758 (+1.06%)
57. Bridgeport: +778 (+3.58%)
58. West Pullman: +934 (+3.58%)
59. Auburn Gresham: +1031 (+2.3%)
60. Douglas: +1034 (+5.1%)
61. Humboldt Park: +1199 (+2.21%)
62. Jefferson Park: +1287 (+4.91%)
63. West Ridge: +1344 (+1.74%)
64. Edgewater: +1353 (+2.4%)
65. North Park: +1355 (+7.72%)
66. South Deering: +1370 (+9.71%)
67. Albany Park: +1410 (+2.91%)
68. Portage Park: +1579 (+2.51%)
69. Irving Park: +1590 (+3.06%)
70. Lincoln Square: +1609 (+3.97%)
71. Washington Heights: +1677 (+6.69%)
72. Garfield Ridge: +1705 (+4.81%)
73. Uptown: +1797 (+3.14%)
74. Avondale: +1861 (+5.13%)
75. East Side: +1967 (+9.05%)
76. Ashburn: +2258 (+5.49%)
77. South Chicago: +2636 (+9.66%)

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by moorhosj1

She thinking about having kids soon? That’s why we required one during our last move.

Yeah we're planning kids right now, which is actually why we might end up going to a 2 bedroom place in South Loop instead even though it's not my favorite area.

We are going to buy property anyway somewhere, ideally within a year or so of moving. Pretty sure we'll be able to get more bang for our buck against rental prices and what we want by purchasing probably in one of those 2-10 unit north side condo buildings.

[Steely Dan]

ChiSoxRox has spent a bunch of work calculating weighted population densities (WPD) by census tract for all of the nation's MSAs over 1M people over in the general census results thread in city discussions.

The overall good news is that most MSAs got denser over the past decade. The even better news locally is that Chicago's MSA actually increased in weighted population density for the first time since at least 1950!


2010 Chicago MSA WPD: 8,613 ppsm

2020 Chicago MSA WPD: 9,012 ppsm

Change: +399 ppsm (+4.6%)


This is the result of the combined forces of very strong core growth in the city's central area and a massive slowdown in new sprawl development on the exurban fringe following the great recession

[sixo1]

@marothisu: You might want to consider Hyde Park. Lots of green space for kids.

(Sorry for getting off topic.)

[the urban politician]

Let’s take the “where should Marothisu rent a place?” talk to the ‘Chicago General Discussions’ thread perhaps?

[the urban politician]

Marothisu, I have a 3 bed/2 bath available in Avondale if you want it!

I’m guessing you want to live in one of the lakefront hoods, though, right?

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Marothisu, I have a 3 bed/2 bath available in Avondale if you want it!

I’m guessing you want to live in one of the lakefront hoods, though, right?

Don't listen to him Marothisu, that place is a termite infested and burnt out trap house that he bought from some slumlord and "renovated"!!!

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Don't listen to him Marothisu, that place is a termite infested and burnt out trap house that he bought from some slumlord and "renovated"!!!

Actually, I just bought another 6 flat (a huge brick one) in your former hood, literally 100 feet from the Blue Line at Milwaukee.

But yes, the vacancy I described is in that "termite infested trap house" that I bought from that pesky slumlord.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Marothisu, I have a 3 bed/2 bath available in Avondale if you want it!

I’m guessing you want to live in one of the lakefront hoods, though, right?

What I want and what my wife wants is different Lakefront hood for now purchase wise.

[sentinel]

This is more of a Chicagoland/suburban thing, but nonetheless very cool for the entire region. I'm very familiar with this place and how lovely it is, glad to see it's getting some neat recognition (also considering my go-to brewery borders it):

Palos Preserves Named Largest ‘Urban Night Sky Place’ In The World

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/08...ght-sky-place/

https://www.darksky.org/our-work/con...preserves-u-s/