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Old Posted Jun 24, 2021, 3:44 PM
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that's for the cityhousing building at the Roxborough Park Revitalization.

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Old Posted Jun 25, 2021, 8:34 PM
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Interesting new research paper by the Smart Prosperity Institute on Hamilton population trends. Might surprise some.

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https://institute.smartprosperity.ca/publication/ontarians-on-the-move

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https://institute.smartprosperity.ca/sites/default/files/Ontarians-on-the-move.pdf
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2021, 5:17 PM
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So I'm not exactly sure what they are doing but something looks different about the mechanical house on Landmark Place. At first I thought the windows were removed but I'm not sure. Definitely looks different. Wonder if they have something planned.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2021, 3:12 PM
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Found a video about Montreal specifically and how it relates to density. Ultimately, towers are only necessary because many cities in North America lack vision when it comes to medium density building. This culture is changing, but people fighting on opposite ends of the density spectrum isn't good for anyone. Arguing Hamilton needs 50 storey towers, while others want nothing but suburbia (see Ancasterites fighting a 4 storey building) means we are arguing at polar opposite ends of the spectrum.

My arguments, (responding to HonestMaple) isn't that a city with different height towers can't be vibrant, it's that they are not a requirement to be vibrant, and in fact towers over a certain height go past the spectrum of human enjoyment. Maybe it's my social science background speaking, because maybe you personally don't mind being around tall towers, but there are numerous studies that show living amongst tall towers can be bad for human health, mentally, psychologically. It can lead to social isolation when compared to missing middle housing, and being in constant shade isn't good for health either.

Like the end of this video below says, I'm not against height, and towers, especially considering the housing crisis. I'm quite excited for the building at King and Caroline, and think that height makes sense there. I do think John and Wilson is a bit tall for the area, considering the neighbourhoods that will be cast in shade in perpetuity. I lived on John and the existing apartment blocks shaded our house that got very limited sunlight in the first place because our unit was on the first floor of three units.

I just don't think that height is a necessity for really anything, and having an obsession with how Hamilton looks from kilometers away is weird. Hamilton's downtown looks great even now from Sam Lawrence park, but when you come up close you can see the social issues, and pain people feel while living here. You can see the parking lots where beautiful buildings once stood. From a distance people can see shit, but I care what we see up close.

Obsession with density at all costs, I think is just as toxic as obsession with the white picket fence suburban dream. It's based on an all or nothing view of how things should be. Core Urban shows that on a property zoned for 12 storeys, they can be profitable with a 6 storey building, so this idea that only 50 storeys can be profitable is baloney frankly. A larger problem is parking minimums, inclusionary zoning, and ridiculous DCs that should be part of property taxes.

Edit: just wanted to add, this is my opinion, and I just think there are various options for attacking housing crisis. Please don't respond with anything insulting, it is beneath me to respond to insults. People here having gotten incredibly aggressive toward me for my dislike of height at all costs. If you can't engage in civil discussion, your anger is probably best suited somewhere else. I'm allowed to have an opinion that isn't the exact same as yours, and it's not a simple situation of "you're either with us or against us". Again, I support many of the towers being built, but I don't understand the distaste toward a "tabletop" skyline. I used the most extreme example of Paris, but there are many cities that have a pretty flat skyline that are great cities.

https://youtu.be/mYCAVmKzX10
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2021, 1:19 AM
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I would take four 10 storey buildings over one 40 storey building any day of the week.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2021, 1:34 AM
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I would take four 10 storey buildings over one 40 storey building any day of the week.
So would I.

The thing is, the more low and mid-rises get built - the more high-rises become a necessity as space winds up being more limited.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2021, 11:35 PM
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I do wonder, is there any plan to encourage more office developments near West Harbour to take advantage to the rail access to commuters from Niagara?
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2021, 1:59 PM
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I think Hamilton is happy to have office space, regardless of location. There hasn’t been a large new office building downtown in a generation at least, with only small amounts of warehouse conversions adding space.

The largest office building built in the city in a generation is finishing up right now and it’s in friggin Waterdown.
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2021, 5:10 PM
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Awesome model train Hamilton at the new Little Canada in Toronto! Is there a way to embed video in the forum?

https://youtu.be/JziBDHYKdvs?t=100
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Awesome model train Hamilton at the new Little Canada in Toronto! Is there a way to embed video in the forum?

https://youtu.be/JziBDHYKdvs?t=100
Thanks for posting that link.
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Awesome model train Hamilton at the new Little Canada in Toronto! Is there a way to embed video in the forum?

https://youtu.be/JziBDHYKdvs?t=100
Use the YouTube BB code with the video's share code (not the full URL, just the last part of the link, so JziBDHYKdvs in this case). You're supposed to be able to start a video at a specific time, but that doesn't seem to work for me.

Here's a full list of the available BB codes: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode


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Old Posted Aug 12, 2021, 7:48 PM
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2021, 8:33 PM
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I was in Guelph for dinner last weekend, on the way home from a short road-trip (we drove to Elora, felt it was too crowded and ended up walking around Fergus which was really nice!... but I digress)

That city seems to be getting it right, in terms of both centre-of-town intensification and new builds on the periphery. A number of mid-rises have gone up in or near downtown. Driving along Victoria Rd., many of the new subdivisions have 4-5 floor condos surrounding townhouses and duplexes and SFHs on small lots. Gordon St. has many 4-8 storey residential buildings.

Guelph still has its sprawly parts, but there are vast sections of Hamilton Mountain, Stoney Creek, Waterdown, and Ancaster that could be built just like that, to avoid expansion of the urban boundary.

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Oh, and blocks along Wyndham and Macdonell streets in downtown Guelph have been closed to cars on weekends (https://guelph.ca/2021/06/its-patio-season/). We ended up having some food and a couple of drinks at a patio there. Quite a nice setup, though I wish they'd have used more of the street for patio tables... but our waiter said it gets very busy later in the evenings, so it may have just seemed like wasted space at the time we were dining. The dude riding up and down doing wheelies on his bike didn't think so, and took full advantage.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2021, 8:45 PM
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Guelph seemingly has become quite the progressive city over time. Lots of beautiful houses around downtown too (just off Eramosa).
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2021, 2:21 PM
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Guelph and KW are two smaller cities that are doing incredibly well with progressive policies. They're becoming incredibly desirable places to live. Hamilton refuses to progress, and I think it has incredibly conservative councillors and citizens (despite voting for NDP primarily because of unions) and as a result is falling behind. We're making slow progress on the work of advocates, but Smaller cities have more to lose so they seem to be doing a better job.
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I think once Cobalt, 75 James, 1 Jarvis and Corktown Plaza start to top out along with the LRT construction, the momentum of the city will start to shift.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2021, 3:45 PM
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The urban boundary expansion option basically already plans to include mid rises along arterial like Guelph - it still plans to double intensification rates over today. It’s important to remember that in the debate, it’s not an all sprawl or all intensification debate, it’s a mostly intensification or all intensification debate.

The difference between them is that the expansion option lets those be 5-6 storey mid rises, while all intensification means they need to be 8-10 storey mid rises.
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2021, 1:27 AM
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I just got back from halifax...amazing what's happening in a city smaller than hamilton.... major development there
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The urban boundary expansion option basically already plans to include mid rises along arterial like Guelph - it still plans to double intensification rates over today. It’s important to remember that in the debate, it’s not an all sprawl or all intensification debate, it’s a mostly intensification or all intensification debate.

The difference between them is that the expansion option lets those be 5-6 storey mid rises, while all intensification means they need to be 8-10 storey mid rises.
This is true, though I think a lot can be done to accomplish the no-expansion scenario if much of the new development is 4-6 floor builds... just many more of them, in places that will be more contentious for existing homeowners.

And for this city, even hitting the "ambitious density" target would require a big change in growth-related thinking. At least by politicians and residents who don't see the issue or don't want change (e.g., "we have lots of land in Canada, what's the problem?", and "These condos are out of character with the existing homes!"). My worry would be subdivision-builders making their case for SFHs to a friendly provincial government, overriding the city's density targets for the expanded urban area.

Even under the city's "no expansion" option, a significant portion of new homes would be outside the current urban boundary: 81% of new units would be built within the present urban area, and presumably the other 19% will be in the white belt, or villages and hamlets like Carlisle and Lynden. So it's not like there will be no choice for developers or home buyers... just more restricted choice.
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Not sure where else to ask, but does anyone know anything about 56 Mulberry? What is it, what was it, etc?

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/56+Mulb...de810ef20!8m2!3d43.2625459!4d-79.8691584
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