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Old Posted Aug 13, 2021, 3:05 AM
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Those all appear to be 2019 numbers.
Nope, ignore the numbers in the blue-green bar at the very top, the 2020 census numbers are the 3rd white row from the top.

EDIT: Though you are right, the last two with the % changes are changes from 2010 to the 2019 estimates. However, since they have the 2020 final numbers now you could calculate the change.
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For the first time in history, New York metro area grew faster than Los Angeles metro area: 6.25% vs 4.29%.

When they released state numbers, I suspected that would happen. It’s a massive thing as the story of Los Angeles overcoming New York has been around for the past 60 years.
Does that include the Inland Empire or no?

The LA area grew by about 700k.

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Old Posted Aug 13, 2021, 3:18 AM
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Nope. The correct numbers for 2020:

Philadelphia gained 5.1% +77,791
Buffalo gained 6.5%. +17,039
Rochester gained 0.4% +763
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2021, 3:31 AM
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EDIT: Though you are right, the last two with the % changes are changes from 2010 to the 2019 estimates. However, since they have the 2020 final numbers now you could calculate the change.
Though I should have said three not two.
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Does that include the Inland Empire or no?

The LA area grew by about 700k.
Yes. I used CSA for LA; and CSA for New York except for a couple of counties.

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Another star is Boston (5 inner counties, plus Worcester, plus the 2 NH counties). It’s past 6 million people and growing 8% decade, not way below Miami or Atlanta.
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Did Louisville really lose over 200k or is this a mistake? Maybe some towns or cities became incorporated in Jefferson County?

2010 Balance population: 597,337
2019 Estimated balance population: 617,638
2020 Balance population: 386,884
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Did Louisville really lose over 200k or is this a mistake? Maybe some towns or cities became incorporated in Jefferson County?

2010 Balance population: 597,337
2019 Estimated balance population: 617,638
2020 Balance population: 386,884
For some reason the Census Bureau seems to have split the old pre-Metro city out. The ZIP file has separate lines for Louisville city and Louisville balance. The Louisville city line seems to be the pre-consolidation boundary with a population of 246,161. Then the balance has 386,884. Summing them together gives a more reasonable 633,045.
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I've found my most surprising exception to the urban rebound so far: Milwaukee had a rough Census.

Journal-Sentinel

Yeah, Milwaukee's drop of ~17,000 was disheartening to see.

I read over on SSC that one of the contributing factors might have been the city getting rid of its city worker residency requirement back in 2013. As of 2017, there were some 1,500 city workers not living within city limits. Extrapolate that out to 2020 and multiply by 2.5 for family members, and that factor alone could have accounted for around half the drop

I know there's a subset of people here on SSP who strongly disagree with city worker residency requirements, but they do actually help keep middle class families living within city limits, particularly in cities that can use all the help of they can get on that front.

I pray that Chicago never gets rid of its city worker residency requirement.
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Michigan and North Carolina both surpassed 10m, giving the country 10 cities with 8 digit populations for the first time.
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The Wikipedia list has been updated (not by me).

What happened to Aurora, Illinois? Third worst percentage drop in the country, after Jackson, Mississippi and Detroit.
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What happened to Aurora, Illinois? Third worst percentage drop in the country, after Jackson, Mississippi and Detroit.
WTF!?!?

a roughly 9% drop for Aurora after 6 decades in a row of double digit sprawl-burban growth?

that is a very serious head-scratcher.

I mean, I could easily see a leveling off, but an outright free-fall drop after posting 38% growth in the previous decade???????


That one isn't passing the sniff test.
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Well hot dicks, those are some nice numbers for metro Boston! I need to dig into this deeper, but these are healthy gains by non-Sun Belt standards:

Boston-Worcester-Providence CSA: 8,293,925: +5.07%
(still #6 in the country by a hair over Dallas, which probably has already overtaken Boston by now)

Metro Boston's 20 biggest cities all saw growth for the first time in my life:

Boston: 675,647: +9.4%
Worcester: 206,518: +14.1%
Providence: 190,934: +7.2%
Cambridge: 118,403: +12.6%
Manchester: 115,664: +5.5%
Lowell: 115,554: +8.5%
Brockton: 105,643: +12.6%
Quincy: 101,636: +10.1%
Lynn: 101,253: +12.1%
New Bedford: 101,179: +6.3%
Nashua: 91,332: +5.6%
Lawrence: 89,143: +16.7%
Newton: 88,923: +4.4%
Cranston: 82,924: +3.2%
Warwick: 82,823: +2.0%
Fall River: 94,000: +5.8%
Somerville: 81,045: +7.0%
Pawtucket: 75,604: +6.3%
Framingham: 72,363: +5.9%
Haverhill: 67,787: +11.3%

Other highlights:
Malden: 66,263: +11.5%
Waltham: 65,215: +7.6%
Brookline: 63,191: +7.6%
Revere: 62,186: +20.2%
Everett: 49,075: +17.8%
Chelsea: 40,787: +15.9%

It's so heartening to see some of the historically-depressed cities that have become absorbed into Greater Boston over the years finally see strong, positive growth after decades of losses. Fall River, New Bedford, Lawrence . . . and wow, Worcester is hot. Took long enough, but it was bound to happen at some point.

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Oakland grew by 50,000 people?!?! Bitch, where? That's amazing.
Oakland:
2010: 390,724
2020: 440,646
% Change: +12.8%

San Francisco:
2010: 805,235
2020: 873,235
% Change: +8.4%

San Jose:
2010: 951,528
2020: 1,013,240
% Change: +6.4%
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Oakland grew by 50,000 people?!?! Bitch, where? That's amazing.
Oakland:
2010: 390,724
2020: 440,646
% Change: +12.8%

San Francisco:
2010: 805,235
2020: 873,235
% Change: +8.4%

San Jose:
2010: 951,528
2020: 1,013,240
% Change: +6.4%
There's actually a decent amount of high density housing going up in downtown Oakland.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2021, 5:22 AM
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There's actually a decent amount of high density housing going up in downtown Oakland.
Yes, I'm being facetious.

The East Bay really killed it this last decade:

Alameda County:
2010: 1,510,329
2020: 1,682,353
% Change: +11.3%

Contra Costa County:
2010: 1,049,204
2020: 1,165,927
% Change: +11.0%

East Bay Total
2010: 2,559,462
2020: 2,848,280
% Change: +11.2%

And it's not just population. Alameda County has risen precipitously as far as median income and per capita income and is now among the wealthiest 1 Million+ pop counties in the country. Contra Costa County also rise quite a bit and is also one of the highest ranking large counties nowadays.

All that Silicon money.
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It was a good decade for the urban Twin Cities:

Minneapolis:
2010: 382,578
2020: 429,954
% change +12.38%

St Paul:
2010: 285,068
2020: 311,527
% change +9.28%

Both had major booms in midrise construction that have changed the fabric of parts of the cities and the population numbers reflect that.
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I posted this in the Austin thread.

2,283,371 is the official count for the Austin area. The area ranks 28th surpassing Las Vegas and just behind Pittsburgh on the census web page, but I'm fully confident that Austin surpassed Pittsburgh that same year.

The San Antonio metro area has 2,558,143 residents last year surpassing Portland, OR. This puts San Antonio the 24th largest metro area.

Temple/ Killeen area stood at 475,367 making it the 118th largest metro area in the country.

Waco at 277,547. There has been significant growth for the area in the past 10 yrs adding 25,000+ new residents

This puts the overall population for the central Texas IH-35 region at approx. 5.6 million.
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A very interesting California development...

So it looks like the Bay Area CSA actually had greater numerical growth than the LA CSA in the 2010s.

2010-2010
Bay Area CSA......+789,000...+9.4%
Los Angeles CSA..+767,000....+4.2%

The San Francisco Metro Area also outgrew the Los Angeles Metro Area by numerical number.

2010-2010
San Francisco Metro Area(MSA).... +412,000...+9.5%
Los Angeles Metro Area(MSA)........+372,000...+2.8%

County...........................2020....2010.....% Change

Santa Clara County.............1,936...1,781...+8.7%
Alameda County.................1,682...1,510...+11.3%
Contra Costa County...........1,165....1,049...+11.0%
San Francisco County..........873......805.......+8.4%
San Joaquin County............779......685......+13.7%
San Mateo County...............764......718......+6.4%
Stanislaus County................552......514......+6.8%
Sonoma County...................488......483......+1.0%
Solano County.....................453......413.....+9.6%
Merced County.....................281.....255.....+10.1%
Santa Cruz County................270......262......+3.0%
Marin County.......................262......252.....+3.9%
Napa County........................138......136.....+1.4%
San Benito County..................64........55....+16.3%
Bay Area CSA.................9,707.....8,918 ...+8.8%

Los Angeles.....................10,014....9,818.....+1.9%
Orange.............................3,186.....3,010.....+5.8%.
Riverside...........................2,418.....2,189....+10.0%
San Bernardino..................2,181.....2,035......+7.1%
Ventura...............................843........823......+2.4%
Los Angeles CSA..............18,642...17,875.....+4.2%
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WTF!?!?

a roughly 9% drop for Aurora after 6 decades in a row of double digit sprawl-burban growth?

that is a very serious head-scratcher.

I mean, I could easily see a leveling off, but an outright free-fall drop after posting 38% growth in the previous decade???????


That one isn't passing the sniff test.
Do a lot of students live in Aurora or visiting scientists for Fermilab?

I’ve seen shocking population declines posted for many college town counties in Illinois that are way way off the 2019 estimate.

Jackson, Coles, and McDonough counties saw 12.0%, 13.0%, and 16.5% declines that absolutely cannot be right.
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Anyhow, I have clearly been sleeping on my own hometown. My entire life I have considered the cities and towns part of the old Pacific Bell Oakland phone book to be the immediate Oakland-Berkeley 'Area'. I know there's a lot of building, but

City----------------2020---------2010-------10-Year Growth--
Oakland.............440,031.....390,724...+49,922...+12.8%
Berkeley ...........124,321......112,514...+11,741...+10.4%
San Leandro.......91,008........84,950.....+6,058.....+7.1%
Alameda.............78,280........73,812.....+4,468.....+6.0%
San Lorenzo........29,581.......23,452.....+6,129.....+26.1%
El Cerrito............25,962.......23,549......+2,413.....+10.2%
Ashland...............23,823.......21,925.....+1,898.....+8.6%
Albany.................20,271........18,539....+1,732.....+9.3%
Emeryville...........12,905.........10,080....+2,793....+27.7%
Piedmont............11,270........10,667......+603......+5.6%
Kensington............5,428..........5,077.....+351......+6.9%
Total.................862,881.....775,740...+87,141...+11.2%

Oh, and this covers about 104 sq miles.

I think the area might actually surpass the city sooner than later..
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