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Old Posted Aug 12, 2021, 7:53 PM
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Yeah, I wonder if LA city's growth has been restricted due to lack of housing supply, rather than a lack of demand... driving people into surrounding cities and counties.
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Where are the metro numbers?
i've not seen anything compiled yet, but you can add them up yourself from the county figures.

Detroit MSA 2010 actual: 4,296,250

Detroit MSA: 2020 estimate: 4,304,136 (+0.2%)

Detroit MSA: 2020 actual: 4,392,041

2010 - 2020 MSA growth: 95,791 (+2.2%)


so another big swing and a miss for the CB on metro detroit.
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Yeah, I wonder if LA city's growth has been restricted due to lack of housing supply, rather than a lack of demand... driving people into surrounding cities and counties.
Probably lack of housing and not so great transit to support density.
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Hawaii, California and Nevada are the most racially and ethnically diverse states:

Source: census.gov
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Hawaii, California and Nevada are the most racially and ethnically diverse states:

Source: census.gov
Do you know what they use in the diversity index?

For example, a Mexican American is very different from a Mexican national, the same is true for Asian immigrants and Asian Americans and European immigrants and European Americans.
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Terrible color scheme...
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I think it's a decent color scheme. You've got 2 very different colors (red and blue) to characterize 2 different schemes (gaining and declining), then have gradations for each of the two colors.

Though usually red is shown as a loss and green is shown as a gain.
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2021, 8:29 PM
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^I thought Hawaii was shrinking. I guess they managed to squeak out a gain over the decade though.
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Terrible color scheme...
tell me about, using the color red to show growth is hurting my brain.

why in the fuck would anyone ever use red to show growth?
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Detroit proper is the hardest city in the US to count, this is expected. This count is without a doubt lower than real population. A lot of new residents also keep official addresses outside the city due to insurance rates which makes it worse. The main source of immigrant growth (Middle Eastern and Latino) are especially distrustful of the census so they just don't do it. Pandemic ruined in-person counting and counting events which are essential to cities with height minority populations.

It's also worth noting the bulk of this loss in the decade is very old, it's mostly if not entirely due to the tax foreclosure crisis that peaked at around 2011. There are next to zero tax foreclosures in the city today.

Where are the metro numbers?


Predictably, the Detroit homer has issues with data showing that Detroit is still in free fall. A resurgent downtown/inner core can't overcome the continued hollowing out of the neighborhoods. I think this is what people mean when they say the Detroit revitalization narrative is a bit overstated. Pockets of the city are making great strides, but the city overall is still experiencing substantial decline.
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tell me about, using the color red to show growth is hurting my brain.

why in the fuck would anyone ever use red to show growth?
I prefer red/green and colors between to show the contrasts.

But I also like Red Hot and Blue Cold.

I think it works.
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2021, 8:35 PM
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tell me about, using the color red to show growth is hurting my brain.

why in the fuck would anyone ever use red to show growth?
Possibly because they thought red = hot.

Oops, just noticed that Camelback had already said the say thing.
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If I did my quick math right, Grand Rapids' MSA further solidified its position as a 1,000,000+ metro:

MSA - 2010: 993,670
MSA - 2020: 1,087,592


EDIT: The CSA was already above 1,000,000, as of the 2010 census. It gained about 100,000 residents:

CSA - 2010: 1,320,064
CSA - 2020: 1,423,632


I'm a little surprised that Grand Rapids (city) did not breach the 200,000 mark (at least, according to the CB data). The 2019 estimates pegged it at 201,000+. It fell short by ~ 1,100 residents:

City - 2010: 188,040
City - 2020: 198,917


Kent County (home to Grand Rapids) had healthy growth, at 9.2%. And neighboring Ottawa County had the largest percent growth in the entire state of Michigan, at 12.3%, which contributes to Grand Rapids' MSA & CSA growth.

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Honolulu's metro finally past a million (1,016,508), yay.
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Honolulu's metro finally past a million (1,016,508), yay.
Thus gaining a neat geographical record: the 1M+ metro farthest from another 1M+ metro on Earth. (Auckland, New Zealand was the previous record holder iirc.)
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tell me about, using the color red to show growth is hurting my brain.

why in the fuck would anyone ever use red to show growth?
Those counties are "red hot?" And the hotter the population growth, the more red hot the color!

And the blue counties are "sad" because they're losing population. That is, they're "blue."
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2021, 8:45 PM
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I think it's a decent color scheme. You've got 2 very different colors (red and blue) to characterize 2 different schemes (gaining and declining), then have gradations for each of the two colors.

Though usually red is shown as a loss and green is shown as a gain.
Yeah, red is usually a decline or something negative.
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Yeah, red is usually a decline or something negative.
That's true, except on The Weather Channel, or the local news.
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