DENVER | Main Development Thread #7

[Arapahoe]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

I hadn't seen this particular video before.

If Harbinger Development is under pressure to get out from under, my guess is they'll suffer a significant loss. Did they borrow the $7.5 million to buy part of the land? They're now obligated to make payments on the ground lease they executed. Slick videos aside they're in a pickle.

Harbinger paid $17.5 million just for the land and not including the small lot owned by Dominion Towers. According to the JLL listing they were planning to select a buyer on July 2 of this year.

[Arapahoe]

Amacon Block 176 render

[Robert.hampton]

Originally Posted by Arapahoe

Amacon Block 176 render

If anyone can ignore the bum camp druggie noise in Arapahoe Square its a developer from Vancouver that has spent a decade building highrises surrounded by needle piles that still sell at $1,000 PSF

[The Dirt]

This is technically the CBD, not Arapahoe Square, but yeah, let's dehumanize as much as we can because our policies have failed all of us.

[Brainpathology]

Originally Posted by The Dirt

This is technically the CBD, not Arapahoe Square, but yeah, let's dehumanize as much as we can because our policies have failed all of us.

Alsoooo Vancouver is filled with piles of needles? I guess I've been visiting the wrong Vancouver all these years?

[Robert.hampton]

Originally Posted by Brainpathology

Alsoooo Vancouver is filled with piles of needles? I guess I've been visiting the wrong Vancouver all these years?

You must have not made the wrong turn on Hastings! Vancouver is an incredible city, but if you head a block away from million dollar 1BR condos in yaletown or gastown you will find yourself on skidrow that makes denver's tent citys feel pretty mellow. If you feel like you've been missing out I'd be happy to give you pointers for a downtown eastside tour.

[gopokes21]

Originally Posted by wong21fr

Why does that blow your mind? Its old shit. What should be really blowing your mind is that neighborhoods such as Bear Valley, Fort Logan, Hampden, and Montbello are eligible to be historic. Ranches, split levels, no-eclectic, no-colonial, etc. are all examples of building vernacular that are on par with Sears Catalog bungalows and worthy of similar preservation.

No, no it's just not remotely similar...

Originally Posted by The Dirt

Bro, you're literally advocating for wholesale preservation of slot home neighborhoods. Do you even hear yourself? We're in multiple crises in this city! If saving what you personally consider to be pretty architecture trumps homelessness, gentrification, rampant unaffordability, the climate crisis, personal property rights, and half a dozen other priorities and values then I consider that closed minded.

"Bro,"

I never "advocated" for "wholesale preservation" of "slot home neighborhoods." You always do this thing where you put hysterical words in people's mouth. You attacked preservation in Congress Park by saying that they're basic vernacular homes and the same standard will apply to slot homes in 50 years. I simply responded saying never assume how preservable an entire era of design may end up being, mid-century stuff has come back in vogue just like art deco before it, and some more significant "slot homes" very well could be preservable in 50 years.

You successfully pulled off the straw man, the red herring, and the slippery slope fallacies all in one line of text (clearly Congress Park preservation is the sole cause of climate catastrophe, housing instability, income inequality, and "half a dozen other priorities and values"). Truly bravo. What a remarkable philosophy you keep espousing.

[bunt_q]

Originally Posted by Arapahoe

Amacon Block 176 render

Cue the inevitable comment about so very much parking being provided “just across the street from a light rail station.”

Cue the reply about evil developers.

Cue the response that it’s not the developers, it’s the evil banks.

Cue the discussion about how car dependent we all still are.

Cue somebody saying you “should” live without a car.

Cue subsequent discussion about “car addiction is why housing is unaffordable.”

Cue somebody saying, “ooh, pretty glass.”

Cue the return to, “but there’s so much parking; cars are evil.”

[Arapahoe]

This is the tallest building under construction in Denver right now ...

X Co. XD2 (aka X Denver 3)
250ft and 22 stories.

Construction has reached the pool deck on level 5. 18 floors to go.  Seems like construction pace has picked up after Milender White took over from Katerra.

Very cool how 40Ft columns will suspend the tower above the pool deck.  The X Club on levels 3,4 & 5 will have a major co-working space, 2 level gym and food & beverage.  X Club is available to residents and non-residents alike.

Very little parking provided. First floor will have leaseable retail space as well.

Should have more street activation impact on Arapahoe Square than PBS.



However, Amacon will take the title of tallest building under construction shortly!

[RyanD]

Originally Posted by bunt_q

Cue the inevitable comment about so very much parking being provided “just across the street from a light rail station.”

Cue the reply about evil developers.

Cue the response that it’s not the developers, it’s the evil banks.

Cue the discussion about how car dependent we all still are.

Cue somebody saying you “should” live without a car.

Cue subsequent discussion about “car addiction is why housing is unaffordable.”

Cue somebody saying, “ooh, pretty glass.”

Cue the return to, “but there’s so much parking; cars are evil.”

Cue we really needed 15-20 more of these like yesterday.


Cue One Lincoln Park residents screeching about their views getting blocked.


Cue being able to see all the parties on the roof of Skyhouse from your new condo patio.


Cue 70% of the units in this building will be bought by foreign / domestic investors and we'll all be screwed anyway as it won't add any real condo supply.

[Arapahoe]

Originally Posted by RyanD

Cue One Lincoln Park residents screeching about their views getting blocked.

At least this one is not probable, there is enough gap that it adds to their view and makes the whole area more desirable. However, X Denver 4, much closer and at 250 ft and 23 stories will block some views.

[Robert.hampton]

Originally Posted by bunt_q

Cue the inevitable comment about so very much parking being provided “just across the street from a light rail station.”

That little spur line is such a stranded waste of public transportation infrastructure -- I remember once upon a time when you could actually get on at 30th and downing and get somewhere.

[Arapahoe]

Originally Posted by Robert.hampton

That little spur line is such a stranded waste of public transportation infrastructure -- I remember once upon a time when you could actually get on at 30th and downing and get somewhere.

indeed, but it will eventually get extended to intersect with A-Line when the whole system is fully built out. (may not be in our life time tho )

[TakeFive]

Props to a southern friend
The Southern Land Company, which recently finished their Bespoke Uptown apartment project, for their continued interest locally and their continued creativity.

Karl's Farm
1801 E. 120th Avenue, Northglenn


Courtesy Southern Land Company/Karl's Farm

Lifestyle-Focused Multifamily Residences Break Ground
June 2, 2021 - Mile High CRE

A collection of multifamily residences have broken ground at Southern Land Company’s (SLC) Karl’s Farm development located at 1801 E. 120th Avenue in Northglenn. SLC will invest more than $90 million into the City of Northglenn with the project, building a total of 385 townhomes and studio, one, two, and three-bedroom apartment homes.

What's with this Karl's Farm?

“It is a thrill for us to contribute to the amazing Karl’s Farm development,” said Kevin House, vice president of Multifamily Development – West at SLC. “The team at KF Developers, Inc., the master developer behind the project, has done an outstanding job creating something special at Karl’s Farm, where there is rich history and heritage. We are proud to offer dynamic housing solutions in what is poised to become a vibrant community.”

Isn't this way out in the boonies?

SLC’s project and the entire Karl’s Farm development will afford residents convenient access to Denver, thanks to Karl’s Farm’s close proximity to Interstate 25 and RTD – Denver’s Northglenn/112th Ave. Station.

“People are looking for convenience, and Karl’s Farm provides it, especially being located just a short walk from public transit and a mile from Interstate 25,” said House.

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Originally Posted by RyanD

Cue we really needed 15-20 more of these like yesterday.

Cue my appreciation for your terrific "9th & Colorado July 2021 Update" as it's an area I'm fond of. Been a long, long time but after a night out on the town in/near Glendale it wasn't unusual to head up to 9th & Colorado for late night food and coffee. I'm pretty familiar with that area so I really enjoy seeing the amazing transformation.

[Ndj]

Ah yes I do believe Modest Mouse wrote a song about this development that goes a little something like...

More housing developments go up
Named after the things they replace
So welcome to Minnow Brook
And welcome to Shady Space Karl's Farm

Modern amenities include a dog washing station, bike shop, pool, private outdoor spaces, and shared workspaces with the latest tech.

No community garden?

[TakeFive]

Can Missing Middle housing be provided reasonably and efficiently?
I would think so... but it's becoming more difficult.

5227 W 25th Ave, Edgewater, CO






Images courtesy Blvdway Communities - Edgewater Crossing

https://theblvdway.com/communities/edgewater-crossing/

Edgewater Crossing offers a SUBURBAN SETTING in an URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. With 2-3 story townhomes and paired homes, along with rooftop decks or private yards, a pocket park in the heart of the community, and prices starting in the high $400s, this beautiful community provides great value in an unbeatable locati

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Originally Posted by Ndj

Ah yes I do believe Modest Mouse wrote a song about this development that goes a little something like...

[SirLucasTheGreat]

Was a building just now demolished at 11th and Bannock? Is the Evans School West development ready from a permitting side? I know there is sewer work going on but that would not explain the demolition.

[BG918]

Evans School is getting ready to start construction. RMPBS will come down in October. Lots of vertical construction coming to 11th & Bannock.

[TakeFive]

When things confuse and confound me...
all I know to do is to Google It.

More than $481M is spent annually on efforts to help homeless in Denver area, report finds
Aug 5, 2021 By Ed Sealover – Senior Reporter, Denver Business Journal

Denver-area governments and organizations spend roughly twice as much per year on per-capita services for individuals experiencing homelessness as they do in educating the average student in Denver Public Schools, according to a new report released Thursday by a pair of groups.

The CSI report found that Denver alone spends $434.6 million per year on homeless services, including $217 million by charitable organizations, $175.9 million on services provided by Denver Health to individuals identified as homeless and $1.7 million on police and fire interactions with homeless people.

Denver being the 19th largest city how does this compare to the 5th largest city (by population) - per Wikipedia?

2019-20 City Efforts to Address Homelessness
phoenix.gov/human services

The city of Phoenix spends almost $20 million annually (PDF)​​ for services related to homeless solutions across several city departments. ​​​​Of that $20 million, Phoenix dedicates over $4 million for services* to assist those experiencing homelessness through community-based providers.

This site also refers to federal grants for 2021. Thank you Mr. President!

The city has committed $20 million from the 2020-2021 fiscal budget and more than $150 million in federal grant funding to these issues.

There has to be more than this?
I found some more from DES or the (state) Department of Economic Security.

https://des.az.gov/sites/default/files/dl/Homelessness-Annual-Report-2019.pdf?time=1607644800091

The DES Homeless Coordination Office utilizes Federal and State dollars to fund homeless services statewide. The Federal funding sources include the Emergency Solutions Grant (ESG), Social Services Block Grant (SSBG) and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). The State funding sources include the AZ State Lottery and General Fund (GF).

Total DES funding was $6,298,502 in 2019 - statewide.

I couldn't find a number for nonprofits specific to homeless as apposed to general 'food banks' etc.

Interesting question:
other than occasionally cleaning up their messes what else needs to be done? Perhaps the advantage in the desert is they keep things simple.

[Agent Orange]

Originally Posted by kemachs

Also you can't argue that their entry into the market (where they compete with all of us and the California refugees) isn't further driving home values up.

I don't think the data really backs up this narrative.

Wall Street isn’t to blame for the chaotic housing market: The boogeyman isn’t who you want it to be.
Vox.com