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Old Posted Jun 28, 2021, 8:17 PM
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Shorter building will be a hotel I believe. Too bad they couldn't configure the ground floor so that the hotel lobby was adjacent to the O-Train station for a direct link.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2021, 12:50 AM
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The individual towers are starting to take shape. I guess we'll know soon enough if they are going ahead with the unique roof design of the shortest tower.

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Old Posted Jul 20, 2021, 11:57 AM
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The individual towers are starting to take shape. I guess we'll know soon enough if they are going ahead with the unique roof design of the shortest tower.
I would think the "unique roof design" would be one of the final touches added once the whole building is complete. I wouldnt lose hope just yet if its not added soon.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2021, 12:59 PM
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Nice to see them taking shape. And the change in material between them helps break out the block a little bit which is nice.

Too bad the design and materials overall are again underwhelming and look like every other brick tower going up in the city

I know the all-glass towers were a boom before in places like Toronto & Vancouver but I wonder why Ottawa never really got any. They're overdone in those other cities but would help bring variety and modernity in Ottawa - all we have are black/grey/brown brick towers with smaller windows EVERYWHERE.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2021, 1:25 PM
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I know the all-glass towers were a boom before in places like Toronto & Vancouver but I wonder why Ottawa never really got any. They're overdone in those other cities but would help bring variety and modernity in Ottawa - all we have are black/grey/brown brick towers with smaller windows EVERYWHERE.
I wonder if it has something to do with the colder climate. Montreal too does not have many all glass towers.

Overall, this looks pretty decent. Sure it looks pretty basic, but the materials seem of relatively high quality.
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Here's a 45 minutes video explaining all the issues with glass high rises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0vDEyLh1yM&t=1911s

Basically, glass towers are cheaper to build since you don't need an extra team of construction workers to deal with the brick or concrete, but they're very energy-consuming when it comes to heating and cooling. Our soviet looking buildings are better built than the glass towers of Vancouver and Toronto.

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I wonder if it has something to do with the colder climate. Montreal too does not have many all glass towers.

Overall, this looks pretty decent. Sure it looks pretty basic, but the materials seem of relatively high quality.
It absolutely has to do with the climate. And with the climate changing, glass towers are going to be less appealing in certain places:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/heat-wave-infrastructure-ac-1.6099694
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It absolutely has to do with the climate. And with the climate changing, glass towers are going to be less appealing in certain places:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/heat-wave-infrastructure-ac-1.6099694
Though I don't think that climate differences explain why Toronto has so many (proportionate to size) compared to Ottawa.

The differences between the two cities aren't that great. (Same goes for Montreal, which was also referenced.)
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2021, 5:25 PM
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Here's a 45 minutes video explaining all the issues with glass high rises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0vDEyLh1yM&t=1911s

Basically, glass towers are cheaper to build since you don't need an extra team of construction workers to deal with the brick or concrete, but they're very energy-consuming when it comes to heating and cooling. Our soviet looking buildings are better built than the glass towers of Vancouver and Toronto.
This has been known for a while. Anybody buying one of those units with floor to ceiling glass should expect some hefty assessments over the life of that mortgage.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2021, 10:25 AM
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It absolutely has to do with the climate. And with the climate changing, glass towers are going to be less appealing in certain places:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/heat-wave-infrastructure-ac-1.6099694
I'm not sure about that. Dubai is filled with glass towers. Hotter than Anywhere in Canada will ever be. Actually is it even clear climate change increases our energy costs. Certainly in Ottawa the hotter summer but milder winters save me money.
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You guys are talking about two different things. There are window walls and there are curtain walls.

Window walls sit on the edge of concrete floor inside the building. Basically just a big window. They are popular and relatively cheap. Curtain walls are big sheets of glass anchored off the side of the building. They are NOT cheap. They're expensive but look great.

The reason you don't see curtain walls in new builds as much anymore is because the building code was changed in 2012. There are new requirements for efficiency. Big glass boxes are very inefficient. Buildings now have to have less than 40% windows or make up for it with some costly energy efficiency equipment/materials. The reason you see them more in places like Vancouver and Toronto is due to their building booms predating these code changes and the ability to recoup the added efficiency costs. So Ottawa may be in a bit of boom right now, but we missed the window when it was the wild west for glass towers. We may see some one day soon, but again, the builder would need to install some cost adding energy saving techniques, and we all know what a lot of the local builders are like.
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The view from across the street in the Delta:





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Old Posted Jul 30, 2021, 8:17 PM
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Good filler. After this and M+M across the street, Queen and Kent will be the only major surface parking lot left in the downtown core.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2021, 11:56 PM
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This is starting to make an impact on the skyline. I'm not a fan of the design but it's certainly better than the ancient buildings around it, it will definitely bring up the surroundings a little bit.

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Another gap filled in good! How many 60s surface parking lots remaining the the city core?
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6 to 8, depending on where the official downtown borders are ( I think)
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another surface parking lot filled GREAT!!!

Impact to the skyline NULL. .. it's not even table top... it'll be under the table. A really unique design with great material finishes could have made this a great project as opposed to a forgettable one.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2021, 6:26 PM
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another surface parking lot filled GREAT!!!

Impact to the skyline NULL. .. it's not even table top... it'll be under the table. A really unique design with great material finishes could have made this a great project as opposed to a forgettable one.
Should have been higher, I think we can all agree on that.

That said, and this may be an unpopular opinion here, but if the choice is between prolonging the table top of our skyline or adding some variety, I'm glad this came in slightly below rather than exactly at the same height as everything else. Personally I would support a 30-year ban on all new towers within +/- 10% of the mode skyscraper max height in the downtown core.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2021, 6:56 PM
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Update as of August 24th:

- The building is current 69% sold out (183 sold out of 266).
- The average size for the remaining units is 830sqft
- The average price per sqft for the remaining units is $749/sqft.
- Prices start at $441,000 for an Ariel Floorplan on the 2nd floor - 630sqft.


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Old Posted Aug 30, 2021, 7:59 PM
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I think there is hesitancy in buying because a grocery store hasn’t been confirmed. I know of potential buyers who will not purchase a unit until they know with certainty that a grocery store will open on the ground floor street level.
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