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Old Posted Jul 16, 2021, 6:55 PM
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I guess for me those specific retail-additions just really seem like they were built with a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 cigarette store or 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 shop in mind. And in the renderings, I still see a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 cigarette store or 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 shop occupying them, because you cant shake the fact they were built with a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 store in mind. Which I guess makes it appropriate for colfax? Maybe if the rending swapped the coffee shop for Stanley's Dildos I'd be more excited.

I guess I would rather see a ritzy coffee $12 latte organic coffee shop/yoga studio on that section of colfax and a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 + cigarette store in some adaptive re-use shop front in Lohi or Tennyson to help balance these neighborhoods out.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2021, 7:09 PM
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I guess for me those specific retail-additions just really seem like they were built with a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 cigarette store or 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 shop in mind. And in the renderings, I still see a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 cigarette store or 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 shop occupying them, because you cant shake the fact they were built with a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 store in mind. Which I guess makes it appropriate for colfax? Maybe if the rending swapped the coffee shop for Stanley's Dildos I'd be more excited.

I guess I would rather see a ritzy coffee $12 latte organic coffee shop/yoga studio on that section of colfax and a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 + cigarette store in some adaptive re-use shop front in Lohi or Tennyson to help balance these neighborhoods out.
Are we looking at different renderings? I see a cool, streamline moderne diner/cafe...actually I would love to see something similar to Denver Diner (RIP) in that space, maybe slightly more upscale.

Anywho worry not - once the developer has renovated the structures, the establishments in the retail space will be much closer to the latte variety than the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 kind...the latter cannot afford brand new commercial space, which this will essentially be.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2021, 7:11 PM
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I admittedly don't know the specific history of these houses or whether the additions came before or after Denver's first 1925 zoning code. But judging by the "streamline moderne" style of the retail addition to the structure on the corner, I would guess these changes happened in the 1920s or 30s. If I remember my Denver history correctly, Colfax didn't really become the kind of seedy place you describe until the the late 1940s or 50s. By the 1950s, houses like these would have simply been demolished and replaced with a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 strip mall or gas station (which you also see plenty of along Colfax).

When I see those structures, I imagine something more like a neighborhood corner market, or perhaps a tailor or other kind of small shop (and yes, corner markets often sell cigarettes). They were likely added by the people who owned and lived in those houses and decided that their "front yard" was worth more to them as a place of business than as a landscaped space when automobiles started using the street and it became a busy, noisy place. Kind of like a modern "live-work" unit.

For the record - there are actually examples of this exact same kind of thing on Tennyson St (notice the Sushi restaurant actually has a house behind the mid-century retail façade). Including a modern example at the corner of 39th and Tennyson that is home to a hip new Mexican restaurant.

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Old Posted Jul 16, 2021, 9:40 PM
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Additionally, these apartments will be immediate south of Stanley Market. TWO other apartment complexes/mixed used developments are also happening to the south of this one -- all the way to Montview (and getting rid of the dilapidated shopping center). They have been approved and are under construction or about to be. It will be a total of 900 apartments between the 3 projects -- with a 4 story parking garage, office space, some retail, and one small new stand-alone retail/movie theatre/restaurant building.

https://frontporchne.com/article/ne-news-updates-jul21/
From February 1, 2021 there's also this:

338 Apartments Starting Construction in Aurora
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The 9.27 acre site at 2201 Clinton will have 338 dwelling units in four buildings arranged around an interior private parking area. Trammell Crow Residential is the builder.

The property has frontage along Westerly Creek where there will be a park area and public path along the creek. The buildings are four and five stories tall with a gross floor area of 402,553 sq. ft. The director of preconstruction, Doug McNeil, says vertical construction will be visible in 6 to 8 months. The two buildings along Westerly Creek should be ready for occupancy in two years, and the Clinton St.-facing buildings will be ready for occupancy in about two-and-a-half years. McNeil describes the apartments as “nice but not luxury.”
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Wow. Somehow I didn’t connect that Tramwell Crow is building two projects along Clinton Street. So everything along Westerly Creek from Montevideo to the Stanley will be redeveloped. That’s impressive.
It looks like these were funded by local investors upfront. First, there's this:
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Jones Day (From Dallas) advised Trammell Crow Residential in its multi-tier joint venture for the development and construction of a 338-unit multifamily project located in Aurora, Colorado.
Here's a pdf of the offering memorandum by Pinnacle Real Estate Advisors. It has a cool aerial view of the site along with Stanley Marketplace.

There's also a site for this under Crow Holding.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2021, 10:20 PM
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Additionally, these apartments will be immediate south of Stanley Market. TWO other apartment complexes/mixed used developments are also happening to the south of this one -- all the way to Montview (and getting rid of the dilapidated shopping center). They have been approved and are under construction or about to be. It will be a total of 900 apartments between the 3 projects -- with a 4 story parking garage, office space, some retail, and one small new stand-alone retail/movie theatre/restaurant building.

https://frontporchne.com/article/ne-news-updates-jul21/
Using 'Street View' I find still a lot of grit which can mean easy-cheap land for redevelopment for many years. Preserving some grit is not a bad thing btw.

Without droning on... My son lives in an area that has lots of older (cheaper) apartments along with newer nicer options. The area's strength as well as appeal is in its diversity. There are lots of eastern Europeans, Asians (especially from India) and ofc lots of Hispanics. An yes there's still plenty of Caucasians.

True Story
Nice young couple - he is white she is Asian - open up a hole-in-the-wall place offering Mexican-Asian fusion food - 30 years ago (in a still gritty area). They survived and thrived. After 30 years she (hubby had passed) moves to brand new digs in my son's 'hood. The place is non-stop busy from open to close. There is no substitute for hard-working people who like to get out and enjoy life right in their own neighborhood.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2021, 11:21 PM
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Holy Schnitt Show

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2021/07/16/denver7-speer-apartments-sold-pmg-greybrook.html
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A joint venture between Property Markets Group (PMG) and Greybrook Realty Partners has purchased the Denver7 building at 123 Speer Blvd. from Scripps Media Inc. for $35 million, the firms announced Friday.

The companies plan to tear down the five-story Brutalist structure... and build a 12-story, 600-unit apartment complex on the 2.3-acre property.

The project, which has been named Society Denver, will be built out over two phases and feature 14,000 square feet of commercial space. It'll mark the first Colorado iteration of PMG's Society Living brand, which the firm created to address "insatiable demand for reasonably priced rental communities close to urban centers."
The last comparable project that comes to mind with that many units with 13 stories was Union Denver.


Rendering courtesy of Holland Partner Group via Mile High CRE

Greybrook Realty Partners is obviously their equity investor.
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“After experiencing great success with our Society Living developments in Florida, we are elated to partner with PMG again to develop Society Denver,” said Sami Mouaket, director of U.S. investments and development for Greybrook Realty Partners, in a statement. “Society Living is an incredible multifamily platform taking a unique and market leading approach to apartment living with a community-driven mindset, and Denver is a perfect market for this product.”
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2021, 12:07 AM
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McNeil describes the apartments as “nice but not luxury.”
🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 finally.

Although..I would use that same phrase to describe most 'luxury' units I've seen around town, so what even is that word? Curious what a 1BR will start at...

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Another little project near the proposal for Franklin & Colfax that has flown under the radar is The Arbory. It’s A five-story, 41-unti condo building on the corner of 16th & Lafayette. Generation Development is the developer, and it’s currently under construction. https://generationdev.com/project/lafayette/
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2021, 3:51 AM
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Another little project near the proposal for Franklin & Colfax that has flown under the radar is The Arbory. It’s A five-story, 41-unti condo building on the corner of 16th & Lafayette. Generation Development is the developer, and it’s currently under construction. https://generationdev.com/project/lafayette/
I also saw the apartment building at 16th and emerson that went up in flames a few years ago has quietly topped of once again. Fingers crossed.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2021, 3:54 AM
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Anywho worry not - once the developer has renovated the structures, the establishments in the retail space will be much closer to the latte variety than the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 kind...the latter cannot afford brand new commercial space, which this will essentially be.
You might be right, although literally a block away some investors bought the retail building at Colfax and Humboldt promising to renovate it to make it some hip Tennyson-style brewery and today it is about to welcome it first tenants which are..... a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 store and vape shop (no really).
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3930 Blake St.

3930 Blake St. also appears to be under construction. I couldn't find a rendering.

-16 stories
-193 units
-ground-floor retail
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You might be right, although literally a block away some investors bought the retail building at Colfax and Humboldt promising to renovate it to make it some hip Tennyson-style brewery and today it is about to welcome it first tenants which are..... a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 store and vape shop (no really).
Hey, those are high-end dildos right there. There’s a huge difference between the purple monster and the X-Spot 4000 and a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 store with concierge service can really highlight this....
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3930 Blake St. also appears to be under construction. I couldn't find a rendering.

-16 stories
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Demolition, excavation, and shoring permits have been issued. Here's a couple of elevations from the site development plan (Davis Partnership is the architect of record)..... check out that facade:

40th&Blake (1)

40th&Blake (2)
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3930 Blake St. also appears to be under construction. I couldn't find a rendering.

-16 stories
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3930 Blake St now has a fence around it.
https://denverpads.com/3930-blake-street/

Address: 3930 Blake Street
Year Built: TBD
Floors: 16
Mixed-Use: Residential, Ground Floor Restaurant & Retail
Residences: 193 homes
Developer: R Cap Blake Street LLC
Architect: Davis Partnership

The Developer filed a Concept Plan with the city planning department on March 10, 2020

https://businessden.com/2019/12/09/site-...s-for-7m-ahead-of-planned-redevelopment/

"R Cap Blake Street LLC purchased the industrial site at 3930 Blake St. — a short walk from the commuter rail stop — for $7.19 million last week, according to public records.

The LLC is associated with Jon Ratner, state records show. Ratner is a former executive with Forest City Realty Trust, and a descendant of the founders of the company, which sold to Brookfield Asset Management in 2018 for $11.4 billion.

Forest City is the firm responsible for master-planning Denver’s Stapleton neighborhood, and Ratner lived in Denver for a time, according to the Colorado Real Estate Journal."
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3930 Blake St. also appears to be under construction. I couldn't find a rendering.

-16 stories
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Yo that rendering is insane. Hopefully the finished product looks similar. Shame that WTC isn't already under construction. I fear the WTC lot might remain undeveloped lot for a bit
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Wait! So y’all are telling me that crazy jungle building is under construction right now? Interesting.

RiNo is a mystery to me. I drive through it every evening on my way home from work. Chain-link fences, ugly old warehouses, tumble weeds, no trees - the sun just beats down on the neighborhood. Very few pedestrians. Why is this concrete wasteland so hip and desirable?

When I get to Cap Hill it’s like a totally different world. Pedestrians everywhere. Thick green foliage protecting the neighborhood from the sun.

Watching RiNo develop into an actual neighborhood is fun. It’s blowing up right now. I wish I could travel time and see what it’s like 20 years from now. I bet I’d be shocked.
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The renovation and new construction at Colfax and Franklin is moving forward through the Landmark Preservation Commission. The seven story addition has already been approved, with the renovation of the two retail/residential buildings being reviewed next week.

Overall the project will include 34 underground parking spaces, 68 residential units, 3,000 square feet of retail and 1,250 square feet of office.

Of interest, the building on the east side of the site will be converted into a five bedroom residential unit, with the retail remaining along Colfax.





Believe it or not, I would have actually supported demolition and the previous (larger) redevelopment footprint. That said, I'm glad this oddball asset is being preserved. It will make the adjoining new infill better as a result.
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There’s a public hearing this evening at 5:30 regarding the rezoning of Golden Triangle. If my understanding is correct, this will be the final hearing before city council votes on it. If I can get off work early enough, I will attend.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2021, 1:36 PM
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So I just got to work and got my dispatch for today. Looks like it’s going to be a long day and I won’t be getting off work early enough to attend that hearing. I hope some reasonable folks show up to that thing and it’s not just a bunch of disruptive NIMBYs in the peanut gallery.
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