PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread X - Page 145

mcgrath618 · #**2881** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 2:23 PM**

I pose a question: should we zone certain sight lines for LP1? It’s a very important work architecturally and culturally, and I’m sure a lot of Philadelphians would hate to see it boxed in.

allovertown · #**2882** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 2:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I pose a question: should we zone certain sight lines for LP1? It’s a very important work architecturally and culturally, and I’m sure a lot of Philadelphians would hate to see it boxed in.

No.

Urbanthusiat · #**2883** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 2:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I pose a question: should we zone certain sight lines for LP1? It’s a very important work architecturally and culturally, and I’m sure a lot of Philadelphians would hate to see it boxed in.

I would say no, and I doubt it’s at risk of getting boxed in anytime soon. I don’t think LP1 has any special relationship with a specific sight line worth placing limits on developments elsewhere. The only case of something like this in Philly is obviously city hall with the parkway, but those are both public projects so I think it’s appropriate to consider highlighting them when thinking about designing public spaces.

mcgrath618 · #**2884** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 2:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

I would say no, and I doubt it’s at risk of getting boxed in anytime soon. I don’t think LP1 has any special relationship with a specific sight line worth placing limits on developments elsewhere. The only case of something like this in Philly is obviously city hall with the parkway, but those are both public projects so I think it’s appropriate to consider highlighting them when thinking about designing public spaces.

Fair enough. Just figured it was a question with asking

ScreamShatter · #**2885** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 3:05 PM**

^ I don’t think so either. But I do wish we’d see taller buildings with sharp spires on them. Needle point spires look so good on tallest buildings.

JohnIII · #**2886** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 3:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I pose a question: should we zone certain sight lines for LP1? It’s a very important work architecturally and culturally, and I’m sure a lot of Philadelphians would hate to see it boxed in.

No,

Just for the record I don't think sight lines for Liberty 1 are that important; my question is just one of curiosity more than anything else.

Plus the way the city is growing I don't think Liberty 1 being boxed in will be a issue for a very long time. Skyscrapers are growing from east to west; not north to south so it wouldn't be that big of an issue for many years more than likely.

summersm343 · #**2887** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 5:22 PM**

Philadelphia seeks developer for old Family Court building, neighboring lot after hotel plans are scrapped

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The city is again seeking developers to revitalize the former Family Court building on the Benjamin Franklin Parkway after talks with the Peebles Corp. about turning the property into an upscale hotel ended last year.

The Philadelphia Industrial Development Corp. on Friday issued a request for qualifications soliciting interest in redeveloping the nearly 250,000-square-foot building at 1801 Vine St. The redevelopment opportunity also includes a neighboring 88,000-square-foot lot at 1901 Wood St. that is currently managed by the Philadelphia Parking Authority.

The lot was previously held for the expansion of the Free Library of Philadelphia’s Parkway Central Library. The city says it is exercising its right under its contract with PPA to now offer the property for development. Interested developers must include the library's plan for a 60,000-square-foot children and family center, auditorium, storage, and relocation of administrative office space into their project.

"While we are disappointed that the original redevelopment plan did not come to fruition, we are looking forward to the next phase of redevelopment at this important location," he said.

New proposals for the building do not need to be restricted to a hotel, the city said.

Read/view more here:
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...amily-courts-redevelopment-rfq-bids.html

summersm343 · #**2888** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 5:27 PM**

Adaptive Reuse for Bellet Building at 15th & Race

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1501 Race St., known for decades as the Bellet Building and known previously as the Schaff Building.

Earlier this year, the Inquirer reported that an affiliate of Brandywine Realty Trust had purchased the property for $9.7M. The building has been used as office space for Hahnemann and Drexel’s med school since the mid-1960s.

Last week, the City issued a zoning permit that indicates that the building will soon enter into a new stage in its life. Soon, all those offices will be converted into apartments, with a total of 170 in the plans. The first floor will remain in use as office space of some kind, though there will surely be some common space and perhaps some amenities on the first floor as well.

Read/view more here:
http://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-philly/logan-square/adaptive-reuse-bellet-building-15th-race

mcgrath618 · #**2889** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Philadelphia seeks developer for old Family Court building, neighboring lot after hotel plans are scrapped

Read/view more here:
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...amily-courts-redevelopment-rfq-bids.html

Ew, no. The symmetry between this and the Library is iconic.

Edit: Oops, misread and didn’t see that the adjacent parking lot is included. THAT should include a high rise for sure.

PHL10 · #**2890** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 6:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I pose a question: should we zone certain sight lines for LP1? It’s a very important work architecturally and culturally, and I’m sure a lot of Philadelphians would hate to see it boxed in.

I think that ship has sailed.

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iheartphilly · #**2891** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 7:05 PM**

If only Liberty 1 and 2 would be on the left of Willy Penn, that would throw the right balance at this angle. L1 and L2 are iconic and photos at the top of the museum steps are taken all the time... I even had my wedding pics above the steps when Comcast Center was being built and way before CITC block those bldgs.

Philly Fan · #**2892** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 7:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly

If only Liberty 1 and 2 would be on the left of Willy Penn, that would throw the right balance at this angle. L1 and L2 are iconic and photos at the top of the museum steps are taken all the time... I even had my wedding pics above the steps when Comcast Center was being built and way before CITC block those bldgs.

You know, you're right. I say we move 'em.

Plokoon11 · #**2893** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 7:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Philly Fan

You know, you're right. I say we move 'em.

Okay, sounds good. Let me stretch first before I start moving them. Don't want to pull any muscles.

TK2001 · #**2894** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 9:33 PM**

Philadelphia skyline by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

City Wide · #**2895** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 10:31 PM**

No need to move them. Just pop the top off (including all the condos) and add 15 or so new floors, following the original plans, then fit the top back on. Simple. The condo owners I'm sure would think their new views would be worth moving out for 2 or 3 years.

Philly Fan · #**2896** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by City Wide

No need to move them. Just pop the top off (including all the condos) and add 15 or so new floors, following the original plans, then fit the top back on. Simple. The condo owners I'm sure would think their new views would be worth moving out for 2 or 3 years.

Yeah, I'm with you. Forget the move. Just pop the tops and slap on some more floors.

iheartphilly · #**2897** Posted **Jul 13, 2021, 1:10 AM**

^
Just jack them both up and put them on stilts...it'll all work out fine, I'm sure.

Jayfar · #**2898** Posted **Jul 13, 2021, 9:15 AM**

Posting this here, since the article prominently cites Arthaus and The Laurel as examples.

Multimillion-dollar housing market in Philly is going strong | Inquirer.com
Multimillion-dollar homes are far from the norm in Philadelphia and its surrounding counties, but the city continues to attract high-end buyers looking for condos and townhouses.

The largest increase in inventory over the last year in the million-dollar-plus market has been the $1 million to $1.5 million range, he said. In some cases, homes that sellers would have priced just under $1 million in previous years have surpassed that mark because of rising prices across the market. Cavalcanto also has seen steady growth in inventory in the higher price ranges.
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Luxury developers say the city is in a great position to continue attracting high-end buyers. Especially during the pandemic, New Yorkers looking for new homes have chosen Philadelphia for its central location, relative affordability, and lower density. Other buyers are downsizing from sprawling suburban homes.

mcgrath618 · #**2899** Posted **Jul 13, 2021, 11:18 AM**

I, for one, welcome our new New Yawk overlords.

summersm343 · #**2900** Posted **Jul 13, 2021, 4:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Ew, no. The symmetry between this and the Library is iconic.

Edit: Oops, misread and didn’t see that the adjacent parking lot is included. THAT should include a high rise for sure.

Haha, yeah. The deal includes the massive lot at 19th & Callowhill. This lot could EASILY fit two highrises. Fingers crossed

As for the old family court building, I would NEVER want to see that go. I'm really hoping it gets turned into a 5-star hotel. Something worthy of it's beauty.