DENVER | Main Development Thread #7

[laniroj]

Originally Posted by Ich

I also think Ridge Gate is a great example. I doubt I’ll ever move to the burbs but this would probably be one of the only ones if I did.


https://ridgegate.com/

Ridget Gate and Prospect are totally different though. Ridgegate was blessed with a train stop, Prospect wasn't. Ridgegate has done a great job adding density and diversity of uses but all of those uses are essentially boxed into their own little zones per typical planning prescriptions. Prospect is mixed-use on a lot by lot level in the old village style of development from 100+ years ago. Completely different urban planning methodologies and both achieve very different results. Ridgegate could use a little more Prospect diversity and Prospect could use a little more Ridgegate density.

[seventwentyone]

Ah yes. Ridgegate with its 3 blocks of apartments with a Monk and Mongoose coffee shop, tract housing, and Cabela’s a mile walk from 2 light rail stations (but right next to the freeway).

Totally what I think of when I think of density.

At least the Belleview Station area tries to be transit adjacent for 4 blocks on the Denver side.

[Ich]

Originally Posted by seventwentyone

Ah yes. Ridgegate with its 3 blocks of apartments with a Monk and Mongoose coffee shop, tract housing, and Cabela’s a mile walk from 2 light rail stations (but right next to the freeway).

Totally what I think of when I think of density.

At least the Belleview Station area tries to be transit adjacent for 4 blocks on the Denver side.

Did you even bother to look at the master plans? The west side was never meant to be super dense but for what it’s worth has a lot of large apartment buildings and town houses that are all very walkable. But the downtown if you will is on the East with a grid system along dense zoning and a train stop right in the middle connecting the east side. I get what he was saying about not mixing the densities like prospect but for a far end suburb to the metro area, they definitely are doing a great job in my opinion. Especially seeing how the rest of Douglas county is filling out.

[seventwentyone]

Originally Posted by Ich

Did you even bother to look at the master plans? The west side was never meant to be super dense but for what it’s worth has a lot of large apartment buildings and town houses that are all very walkable. But the downtown if you will is on the East with a grid system along dense zoning and a train stop right in the middle connecting the east side. I get what he was saying about not mixing the densities like prospect but for a far end suburb to the metro area, they definitely are doing a great job in my opinion. Especially seeing how the rest of Douglas county is filling out.

Yup and until they actually build something besides a park and ride on the East side I will be doubtful about density. Plus it’s not like they can go super tall (or even kinda tall) because of the runways at APA.

[bunt_q]

Originally Posted by seventwentyone

Ah yes. Ridgegate with its 3 blocks of apartments with a Monk and Mongoose coffee shop, tract housing, and Cabela’s a mile walk from 2 light rail stations (but right next to the freeway).

Totally what I think of when I think of density.

At least the Belleview Station area tries to be transit adjacent for 4 blocks on the Denver side.

Well to be fair, even if Cabelas was only four blocks away, I am probably not taking my newly-legislatively-mandated 500-pound 🞵🞵🞵 safe home on the light rail.

[TakeFive]

Very well stated!

Originally Posted by Ich

Did you even bother to look at the master plans? The west side was never meant to be super dense but for what it’s worth has a lot of large apartment buildings and town houses that are all very walkable. But the downtown if you will is on the East with a grid system along dense zoning and a train stop right in the middle connecting the east side.

They're just getting going on the "downtown" side; this will be a suburban 'downtown' not to be confused with downtown Denver.

So how are they doing? Well Kiewit is making good progress. This is from a year ago March.


A rendering of Kiewit's 252,000-square-foot regional headquarters, courtesy of Stantec.

https://milehighcre.com/kiewits-regional-headquarters-tops-out/

Today, Kiewit Corporation, one of the largest construction and engineering organizations in North America, celebrated the topping-out of its new 252,000-square-foot regional headquarters in Lone Tree’s RidgeGate community. The new headquarters will provide a central hub for the company’s existing Colorado-based staff of 900, who are currently spread out across the state in a number of leased office spaces, as well as strengthen its in-house engineering capabilities.

This is from February 2021.


Photo courtesy of Kiewit via Mile High CRE

Second Office Building at Kiewit’s Regional HQ Tops Out

Kiewit... continues to see progress on the build out of its new regional headquarters in Lone Tree as a second, four-story, 142,000-square-foot office building topped out last month. Kiewit broke ground on phase two of the project following the topping off of the campus’ first office building, which includes five stories and 252,000 square feet of office space.

Kiewit anticipates completion of the first building and adjacent parking garage this summer, with completion of the second building in the first quarter of 2022.

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

Well to be fair, even if Cabelas was only four blocks away, I am probably not taking my newly-legislatively-mandated 500-pound 🞵🞵🞵 safe home on the light rail.

Wait... Wut? Unbelievable! Tell me you're not serious?

[wong21fr]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

Wait... Wut? Unbelievable! Tell me you're not serious?

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb21-1106

Lock your boom stick up.

[EngiNerd]

Originally Posted by laniroj

Ridget Gate and Prospect are totally different though. Ridgegate was blessed with a train stop, Prospect wasn't. Ridgegate has done a great job adding density and diversity of uses but all of those uses are essentially boxed into their own little zones per typical planning prescriptions. Prospect is mixed-use on a lot by lot level in the old village style of development from 100+ years ago. Completely different urban planning methodologies and both achieve very different results. Ridgegate could use a little more Prospect diversity and Prospect could use a little more Ridgegate density.

A buddy of mine had a townhome at Prospect, really cool area, and agree, nothing quite like it in the Denver area outside the city centers.

[Robert.hampton]

Looks like Novel Uptown is moving ahead at 16th and Logan after getting a variance approved. Which sleuth can find the renderings?

[The Dirt]

What was the variance?

[Robert.hampton]

Originally Posted by The Dirt

What was the variance?

Shopfront Building form with floors 6 through 8 encroaching 20 feet into the 20
foot Primary Street Upper Story setback, and with floor 9 through 10 and associated parapet wall encroaching 14 feet
into the 20 foot Primary Street Upper Story setback,

[spr8364]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

Very well stated!

They're just getting going on the "downtown" side; this will be a suburban 'downtown' not to be confused with downtown Denver.

So how are they doing? Well Kiewit is making good progress. This is from a year ago March.

Actually, Kiewit is on the west side and not part of the new downtown. Aside from some earth moving for the roads and some new apartments and a light rail station, not much is happening there. It really just started in the last month or so.

[BG918]

Originally Posted by Robert.hampton

Looks like Novel Uptown is moving ahead at 16th and Logan after getting a variance approved. Which sleuth can find the renderings?

All I could find

[SirLucasTheGreat]

Looks like Pepsi is moving from RiNo to out by the airport.

https://businessden.com/2021/07/12/pepsi...48-acres-by-dia/#newsletter%23newsletter

[laniroj]

Originally Posted by SirLucasTheGreat

Looks like Pepsi is moving from RiNo to out by the airport.

https://businessden.com/2021/07/12/pepsi...48-acres-by-dia/#newsletter%23newsletter

110 foot tall automatic storing/storage facility - this sounds rad. Need more of this Tokyo-esque stuff in Aerotropolis!

[BG918]

Originally Posted by SirLucasTheGreat

Looks like Pepsi is moving from RiNo to out by the airport.

https://businessden.com/2021/07/12/pepsi...48-acres-by-dia/#newsletter%23newsletter

Aerotropolis is really starting to heat up. Lots of new residential underway and planned in this area along with developments like this and other warehouse/logistics projects. I give it 10 years before it’s wall-to-wall sprawl from the airport to I-70 along Pena Blvd

[bulldurhamer]

Originally Posted by BG918

Aerotropolis is really starting to heat up. Lots of new residential underway and planned in this area along with developments like this and other warehouse/logistics projects. I give it 10 years before it’s wall-to-wall sprawl from the airport to I-70 along Pena Blvd

the train goes along pena with stops. what do you want? sprawl? that's not really it.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by wong21fr

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb21-1106

Lock your boom stick up.

I understand the sentiment but not the logic.

But Heh, if I see news video of the gang bangers, wannabe thugs and the mentally unbalanced lining up to comply then I'll be impressed. Otherwise it does nothing to solve real problems; only inconveniences people that don't commit crimes. Of course conservatives love to point out the most violent cities and their politics.

The Good News is that Colorado and its cities are still seen as nice place to live and relatively safe. Portland can't say that. In places like San Francisco (or Los Angeles) where gangs of shoplifters are in and out with bags filled before police arrive, retailers are either cutting back their hours or closing their doors. Does San Francisco suck?

Forty percent of residents are planning to leave the city in the next few years, a poll conducted by the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce suggested, and 8 out of 10 San Franciscans believe crime has worsened in the city, leading to a lower quality of life for them.

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Originally Posted by spr8364

Actually, Kiewit is on the west side and not part of the new downtown. Aside from some earth moving for the roads and some new apartments and a light rail station, not much is happening there. It really just started in the last month or so.

I seem to be on a roll... Think I knew this but I guess I just 'wanted' it to be on the other side. Thanks for the correction.

New affordable apartments on the way by Koelbel.

On Tuesday May 25, Koelbel and Company, Coventry Development Corporation, the City of Lone Tree, and the Colorado Housing and Finance Authority celebrated the groundbreaking of the first affordable housing project in Lone Tree.

Koelbel & Company recently received a highly competitive CHFA financing award for the project, which will be located right at the RTD RidgeGate Station and will welcome residents in 2022.

Courtesy of Keolbel and Co via Denver Gazette

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Originally Posted by laniroj

110 foot tall automatic storing/storage facility - this sounds rad. Need more of this Tokyo-esque stuff in Aerotropolis!

This place is awesome; it even has a dedicated bike path.

[wong21fr]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

I understand the sentiment but not the logic.

But Heh, if I see news video of the gang bangers, wannabe thugs and the mentally unbalanced lining up to comply then I'll be impressed. Otherwise it does nothing to solve real problems; only inconveniences people that don't commit crimes. Of course conservatives love to point out the most violent cities and their politics.

The intent is more so to cut down on the number of opportunities for Junior to grab Daddy’s 🞵🞵🞵 and a) shoot themselves and/or b) shoot someone else.

Any responsible 🞵🞵🞵 owner should be doing this already and this nanny-esque legislation is meant, similar to seat belt laws of the 1980’s/90’s, to get a portion of the remaining dumbasses to do it.

[TakeFive]

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