PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread - Page 806

mcgrath618 · #**16101** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vince_

Looks like their is a demolition permit for Downey's at Front and South:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/eclipse-docs-pdf...DrEDMDnxPRPOxaAKEyejSYwSUZk5Y8mFraVeBHco

I'm unsure how to feel about this until I see a rendering. I guess this is part of the Society Hill overlay? This would be a good spot for a mid-rise with first floor commercial. Downey's was a lot of fun before but the last few times I went before it closed, it was a dump.

APPEAL NUMBER ZP-2021-004100

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PERMIT FOR THE RELOCATION OF LOT LINE TO CREATE ONE (1) LOT (PREMISES A) FROM TWO (2) OPA ADDRESSES (109-11 SOUTH ST AND 526 S FRONT ST) INCLUDING FIVE (5) LOTS (105, 107, 109 & 111 SOUTH ST AND 526 S FRONT ST). FOR COMPLETE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING STRUCTURE ON THE LOTS; AND
FOR THE ERECTION OF AN ATTACHED STRUCTURE WITH CELLAR AND ACCESSORY ROOF DECK (FOR RESIDENTIAL USE ONLY) WITH ROOF ACCESS STRUCTURE. SIZE AND LOCATION AS SHOWN IN THE APPLICATION / PLANS.

USES: FOR VACANT COMMERCIAL SPACE ON FIRST FLOOR AS PERMIT IN CMX-1 (USE REGISTRATION PERMIT REQUIRE PRIOR TO OCCUPANCY), AND MULTI-FAMILY HOUSEHOLD LIVING EIGHTEEN (18) DWELLING UNITS AND SIX (6) OFF STREET ACCESSORY CLASS 1A BICYCLE PARKING SPACES ON ACCESSIBLE ROUTES. (NO SIGN ON THIS APPLICATION).

This parcel is in the Southwark historical overlay, but not Society Hill as far as I can see.

skyhigh07 · #**16102** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 4:19 PM**

Certainly an interesting time for the city’s premier shopping street.

http://https://www.bizjournals.com/phila...tom-expands-with-philadelphia-store.html

“A St. Louis-based retailer of cannabidiol, or CBD, products, has expanded with a new store.” (212 S. 17th St.)

SEFTA · #**16103** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 4:41 PM**

This is actually one of the few times I would not like to see something that's taller than the present building. In fact I would have liked to have seen this building restored.
This block has a very nice scale & feel to it, except for that bar's extensions into the sidewalk.

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

APPEAL NUMBER ZP-2021-004100

This parcel is in the Southwark historical overlay, but not Society Hill as far as I can see.

526 S FRONT ST, Philadelphia

aprice1828 · #**16104** Posted **Jul 9, 2021, 5:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

Philadelphia seeks developer for old Family Court building, neighboring lot after hotel plans are scrapped

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...amily-courts-redevelopment-rfq-bids.html

I still hope for a luxury hotel. This location is still slightly separated from the action, but will become more lucrative with each passing year.

We need an Edition brand in Philly

Was the plan to turn the building itself into a hotel? A developer was eyeing a similar beaux-arts courthouse in St. Louis (where I recently moved from). I was pretty skeptical at first until I saw that the expected architect for the project also worked on the Hyatt Place at the Custom House in St. Paul. A much larger but similarly difficult building. Unfortunately the St. Louis project was amidst a wave of other boutique hotel announcements so it fell through. But the St Paul Custom House is good precedent / success story for something like this.

City Wide · #**16105** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 4:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

46-Unit, Mixed-Use Building Planned at Ridge and Spring Garden

Rendering:

Rendering:

Current site:

Read/view more here:
http://www.rising.realestate/46-unit-mixed-use-building-planned-at-ridge-and-spring-garden/

I'm almost sure that years ago there were steps going down to the subway in front of what was then a Girard bank branch. If so, now would be a good time to at least plan for the future use. Who knows, in a distant universe maybe the Ridge St. line could be extended and somehow make its way down to the riverfront.

Jayfar · #**16106** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 8:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by City Wide

I'm almost sure that years ago there were steps going down to the subway in front of what was then a Girard bank branch. If so, now would be a good time to at least plan for the future use. Who knows, in a distant universe maybe the Ridge St. line could be extended and somehow make its way down to the riverfront.

I seem to recall that entrance to the Ridge Spur right on Spring Garden as well, but the only surviving entrance to Spring Garden Station that is still visible at the surface is about a block away at Ridge & Buttonwood St, NWC. [It's also included in the recent Cast Iron Subway Entrances Thematic District https://www.phila.gov/media/20190213121656/Historic-District-Cast-Iron-Subway.pdf ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Garden_station_(Broad%E2%80%93Ridge_Spur)

streetview: https://goo.gl/maps/PWUiGUFMj579TtjSA

EDIT: There absolutely was a closed station entrance right in front of the bank as recently as July 2014, per this streetview of that month: https://goo.gl/maps/KY7xMVAoxzcoVRo67
By June 2016 it was gone, replaced by a patch of fresh concrete.

SEFTA · #**16107** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 2:27 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by summersm343

46-Unit, Mixed-Use Building Planned at Ridge and Spring Garden

Rendering:

Rendering:

Current site:

Read/view more here:
http://www.rising.realestate/46-unit-mixed-use-building-planned-at-ridge-and-spring-garden/

I do love the clock

1201 Spring Garden Street

1201 Spring Garden Street 2

with the planned makeover of Spring Garden STREET
I think it should be renamed
"SPRING GARDEN BOULEVARD"

mih216 · #**16108** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 3:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

APPEAL NUMBER ZP-2021-004100

This parcel is in the Southwark historical overlay, but not Society Hill as far as I can see.

RCO's for the Downey's site is South Street Headhouse District and Queen Village. Society Hill starts from the north side of Lombard.

Busy Bee · #**16109** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 3:29 PM**

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Jayfar · #**16110** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by mih216

RCO's for the Downey's site is South Street Headhouse District and Queen Village. Society Hill starts from the north side of Lombard.

Sadly, Downey's at 526 S. Front St is *ALMOST* within the Society Hill Historic District on the Philadelphia Register. The boundary is next door; 524 S. Front St is contained in the district; 526 is not.

Here's its northern adjacent neighbor as listed in the district's inventory:
524 [S Front St] 3-story, 3-bay, red brick, Flemish bond, vernacular house. Ground floor has 30-light shopfront
window with door on left; excavated basement; wood door surround with single-leaf 6-panel door; pent eave with
sign band above 1st floor; 4/4 windows on 2nd and 3rd floors; brick stringcourse at 2nd and 3rd floors; modillioned
cornice; gable roof.
Built c. 1795. Significant.

https://www.phila.gov/media/20190530143425/Historic-District-Society-Hill.pdf

TonyTone · #**16111** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 7:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jayfar

I seem to recall that entrance to the Ridge Spur right on Spring Garden as well, but the only surviving entrance to Spring Garden Station that is still visible at the surface is about a block away at Ridge & Buttonwood St, NWC. [It's also included in the recent Cast Iron Subway Entrances Thematic District https://www.phila.gov/media/20190213121656/Historic-District-Cast-Iron-Subway.pdf ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Garden_station_(Broad%E2%80%93Ridge_Spur)

streetview: https://goo.gl/maps/PWUiGUFMj579TtjSA

EDIT: There absolutely was a closed station entrance right in front of the bank as recently as July 2014, per this streetview of that month: https://goo.gl/maps/KY7xMVAoxzcoVRo67
By June 2016 it was gone, replaced by a patch of fresh concrete.

Could that stop or the button wood stop be reopened? if it was used in the 1900's it can defiantly be used now.

mcgrath618 · #**16112** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 8:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by TonyTone

Could that stop or the button wood stop be reopened? if it was used in the 1900's it can defiantly be used now.

Station platforms are still there, as is the subway like (The Ridge Ave Spur).

But why? The BSL is 3 blocks west.

It would make more sense to open an infill stop just southeast of here near Callowhill, if at all.

Jayfar · #**16113** Posted **Jul 10, 2021, 9:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by TonyTone

Could that stop or the button wood stop be reopened? if it was used in the 1900's it can defiantly be used now.

Buttonwood and Spring Garden were just different stairs to the same station.

PHLtoNYC · #**16114** Posted **Jul 11, 2021, 1:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by aprice1828

Was the plan to turn the building itself into a hotel? A developer was eyeing a similar beaux-arts courthouse in St. Louis (where I recently moved from). I was pretty skeptical at first until I saw that the expected architect for the project also worked on the Hyatt Place at the Custom House in St. Paul. A much larger but similarly difficult building. Unfortunately the St. Louis project was amidst a wave of other boutique hotel announcements so it fell through. But the St Paul Custom House is good precedent / success story for something like this.

Original plan, yes. Financial issues with the developer, city, then Covid, it just didn't work out. A hotel is certainly a great idea with the right development / hotel team behind it, as long as the city is receptive in the process.

I will have to look up the examples you mentioned.

TonyTone · #**16115** Posted **Jul 11, 2021, 1:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Station platforms are still there, as is the subway like (The Ridge Ave Spur).

But why? The BSL is 3 blocks west.

It would make more sense to open an infill stop just southeast of here near Callowhill, if at all.

Yea I think we had that discussion before, so it's understandable why this stop closed, like you said a stop down by callow hill would be actually pretty helpful.

arkitect13 · #**16116** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 3:36 AM**

Are there cranes up for the LVL? I was driving into philly on i-95 and saw 2 tower cranes in the direction of the cira center. I dont have any photos, that i know of, of them. But they were 2 red tower cranes, on the edge of center city.

PHL10 · #**16117** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 11:57 AM**

10th and Girard development:

Redddog · #**16118** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 2:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEFTA

This is actually one of the few times I would not like to see something that's taller than the present building. In fact I would have liked to have seen this building restored.
This block has a very nice scale & feel to it, except for that bar's extensions into the sidewalk.

526 S FRONT ST, Philadelphia

What exactly is going on with this place?

PHLtoNYC · #**16119** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 3:37 PM**

Drexel came through the pandemic better than expected. Now president John Fry is contemplating his next step.

https://www.inquirer.com/education/john-fry-drexel-university-president-coronavirus-20210712.html

Always nice to read about Fry's Drexel accomplishments, and that Drexel made it thru the pandemic mostly unscathed. His contract is up in 2023.

There is mention in the article that some want him to run for Mayor. While I would love that, he can do so much more for the city if he stays outside of City Hall.

summersm343 · #**16120** Posted **Jul 12, 2021, 4:08 PM**

66-Unit Building to Replace Old City Parking Lot

Current site:

Only issue I see is, NO WAY is this building only 8,744 sq feet. I know this is a typo in the permit, but it has to be AT LEAST 87,000 square feet.

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Developers are proposing a 7-story, 8,744 square foot building with 66 residential units, ground floor commercial space, 18 automobile parking spots, and 28 bicycle stalls on the CMX-3 zoned, corner site at 36-42 S. 2nd Street in Old City. The property is currently being used as a surface parking lot. Zoning permits were issued earlier this week to consolidate the parcels and for the erection of a building as described.

Read/view more here:
http://www.rising.realestate/66-unit-building-to-replace-old-city-parking-lot/