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matt602 · #**901** Posted **Jun 25, 2021, 11:07 PM**

About damn time.

TheHonestMaple · #**902** Posted **Jun 26, 2021, 12:05 AM**

This development will drastically change the perception of downtown Hamilton. The huge increase in downtown residents and just the modern 'Toronto' look will do wonders for our city. Glad to see it rising. Will try to get some drone shots of it soon.

905er · #**903** Posted **Jun 26, 2021, 12:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by TheHonestMaple

This development will drastically change the perception of downtown Hamilton. The huge increase in downtown residents and just the modern 'Toronto' look will do wonders for our city. Glad to see it rising. Will try to get some drone shots of it soon.

I can't wait to see these rise in Hamilton.. it'll be great to see a break from all the 70's style apartments. These should be beauts when complete.

Dr Awesomesauce · #**904** Posted **Jun 26, 2021, 1:12 AM**

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...the modern 'Toronto' look will do wonders for our city. Glad to see it rising.

That's a good question. Not against the idea. Just not sure it's what people really look for in a city, unless we're speaking on a superficial level.

Toronto's shiny see-through skyline doesn't do much for me. It's the older, human-scaled parts of the city that are most attractive. Same with Manhattan, although their older skyscrapers are stunning.

I just hate to see older, thoughtfully designed buildings razed for plastic, fantastic junk. Darko's stuff, in particular, might not age well. We shall see...

TheHonestMaple · #**905** Posted **Jun 26, 2021, 1:18 AM**

I think i'm strictly speaking superficial. I think the modern look of this building will improve the perception of Hamilton. Let's face it, this city has a bad reputation, it's ugly at a quick glance. This thing will improve the city's image to outsiders, and in my opinion will attract future development.

I agree, I used to live in Toronto for years. I specifically chose to live in a part of the city with charm, no condos, and real character. Little Portugal. I would never want to live in say, Liberty Village. But I do think Hamilton needs a bit of that to lift it up.

TheRitsman · #**906** Posted **Jun 26, 2021, 1:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dr Awesomesauce

That's a good question. Not against the idea. Just not sure it's what people really look for in a city, unless we're speaking on a superficial level.

Toronto's shiny see-through skyline doesn't do much for me. It's the older, human-scaled parts of the city that are most attractive. Same with Manhattan, although their older skyscrapers are stunning.

I just hate to see older, thoughtfully designed buildings razed for plastic, fantastic junk. Darko's stuff, in particular, might not age well. We shall see...

I agree, and I've argued this numerous times here. I suppose on a superficial level tall shiny towers give a city that wow factor, and employment density hopefully. But if I were to live in Toronto the last place I'd live is among the new towers. We've looked into moving to Toronto and we'd probably look near the Danforth, Dundas near the Junction, Queen St E or Queen St W closer to Osgoode. This streets that feel a lot more like James N or Ottawa or Barton are far superior for living in, and have local businesses more often than franchise stores, the entire reason to leave the suburbs for me, which is getting out often, more similar to a European style of living where you're always out.

That said, I'm looking really forward to this development, but I fear it's a bit too much right on Gore, and especially looming on King William. Restaurant row will have a narrow window of sun compared to the current all day.

TheHonestMaple · #**907** Posted **Jun 26, 2021, 1:52 AM**

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I agree, and I've argued this numerous times here. I suppose on a superficial level tall shiny towers give a city that wow factor, and employment density hopefully. But if I were to live in Toronto the last place I'd live is among the new towers. We've looked into moving to Toronto and we'd probably look near the Danforth, Dundas near the Junction, Queen St E or Queen St W closer to Osgoode. This streets that feel a lot more like James N or Ottawa or Barton are far superior for living in, and have local businesses more often than franchise stores, the entire reason to leave the suburbs for me, which is getting out often, more similar to a European style of living where you're always out.

That said, I'm looking really forward to this development, but I fear it's a bit too much right on Gore, and especially looming on King William. Restaurant row will have a narrow window of sun compared to the current all day.

Yeah i'm not really suggesting that tall glass condos make super amazing neighbourhoods to live in. Not at all. I'm just saying this particular development will give this part of Hamilton a modern feel. Something Hamilton desperately needs.

As mentioned above, I actually used to live in Toronto for a number of years. And I specifically chose to live in a neighbourhood like the ones you listed.

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Bubba9000 · #**909** Posted **Jun 29, 2021, 1:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by TheHonestMaple

This development will drastically change the perception of downtown Hamilton. The huge increase in downtown residents and just the modern 'Toronto' look will do wonders for our city. Glad to see it rising. Will try to get some drone shots of it soon.

The huge increase in downtown residents << this is what will be making the biggest difference. Sure tall shiny buildings get noticed but are ultimately ignored. More people living here are required to fuel vitality at the granular scale. We'll see the positive effect spreading for several blocks around this one and KiWi and others like them coming along.

Chronamut · #**910** Posted **Jun 29, 2021, 8:08 PM**

The downtown needs more entertainment complexes for all these new people - they all gotta have something to do or they'll just hop on the go and party it up in toronto like I used to do.. most of the clubs in hamilton have all shut down too..

TheRitsman · #**911** Posted **Jun 29, 2021, 10:03 PM**

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The downtown needs more entertainment complexes for all these new people - they all gotta have something to do or they'll just hop on the go and party it up in toronto like I used to do.. most of the clubs in hamilton have all shut down too..

There are definitely things to do in Hamilton nowadays, but the demand is now definitely higher than supply of entertainment.

Innsertnamehere · #**912** Posted **Jun 30, 2021, 2:02 AM**

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The downtown needs more entertainment complexes for all these new people - they all gotta have something to do or they'll just hop on the go and party it up in toronto like I used to do.. most of the clubs in hamilton have all shut down too..

most clubs have shut down everywhere. They just don't have the attendance they used to and they have land use issues opening up (neighbours always hate them and most cities have very restrictive zoning on them). Toronto has a fraction of the clubs it had in the 90's and 2000's.

Markus83 · #**913** Posted **Jun 30, 2021, 5:01 PM**

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most clubs have shut down everywhere. They just don't have the attendance they used to and they have land use issues opening up (neighbours always hate them and most cities have very restrictive zoning on them). Toronto has a fraction of the clubs it had in the 90's and 2000's.

Anyone up for a light show?! ( sound of drum & bass in the background @ the Opera House) TORONTO MASSIVE!! F*ck, do I ever miss those days.

Crapht · #**914** Posted **Jun 30, 2021, 5:56 PM**

Sounds like the perfect opportunity for the reemergence of an all night warehouse Party culture. Those were good times.

But that’s not going to happen at Cobalt.

eatboots · #**915** Posted **Jul 1, 2021, 5:56 AM**

People still like to go to festivals but I don't think clubs are considered cool any more.

TheRitsman · #**916** Posted **Jul 1, 2021, 11:07 AM**

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People still like to go to festivals but I don't think clubs are considered cool any more.

We still go clubbing occasionally. It's a change of pace. We prefer places like Sous Bas though over Hess St clubs.

Chronamut · #**917** Posted **Jul 2, 2021, 5:50 PM**

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People still like to go to festivals but I don't think clubs are considered cool any more.

People used to party and hook up at clubs - now they can hook up through apps - even when clubs were still around at the end it was just people standing in circles on their phones looking specifically for people they met online at the clubs - social interaction has been dying for quite a while.

Innsertnamehere · #**918** Posted **Jul 2, 2021, 5:55 PM**

People still go to clubs but not in the numbers they once did.

I think it's a mix of declining attendance, which is partially attributable to dating apps, partially attributable to changing consumer preferences, and the gentrification of cities making it challenging for them to locate affordably in locations that have enough density to support them.

TheHonestMaple · #**919** Posted **Jul 2, 2021, 6:54 PM**

And don't forget that future government covid restrictions will be the nail in the coffin for any clubs in this province unfortunately.

Beedok · #**920** Posted **Jul 2, 2021, 8:30 PM**

Honestly, wouldn’t be surprised if Covid leads to a resurgence for them, with people wanting to get out after being cooped up and doing things they wouldn’t have done before. The classic ‘I didn’t want to do X until I was told I couldn’t’.