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Old Posted May 22, 2021, 11:12 PM
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Pedestrian - The federal building could have been a great addition to the area except for the disaster on the roof (which unfortunately is in my view) & the plaza. Looking forward to seeing what the plaza will have to offer when remodeled. I have never seen the purpose of that space except as being an eyesore.
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Old Posted May 23, 2021, 8:18 PM
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... Looking forward to seeing what the plaza will have to offer when remodeled. I have never seen the purpose of that space except as being an eyesore.
as I vaguely recall, it was a late (value-engineering) redesign that created what we got - originally the jaggedly undulating (if that is possible) roof was to have extended much more over what is now the plaza. wonder if I can find a rendering...
     
     
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Old Posted May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM
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^^I'm fine with the roof. The plaza was a big nothing that just attracted the homeless.
     
     
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Old Posted May 23, 2021, 10:03 PM
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Renderings Revealed For 244 9th Street, SoMa, San Francisco
BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON MAY 23, 2021

New renderings have been revealed with a preliminary project assessment for an eight-story mixed-use building with affordable housing at 244 9th Street in SoMa, San Francisco. The project is set to replace a small two-story structure with 27 new rental apartments. Prestige Milling Investment is listed as responsible for the project as the property owner.

The project benefits from the state density bonus by including affordable housing, equivalent to a fifty-percent increase in total floor area. Of the 27 apartments, one will offer three bedrooms, thirteen will be studios, and the remaining thirteen will be two-bedroom units. Three of the apartments will be sold as affordable housing.

The 80-foot structure will yield 21,270 square feet, with 18,120 square feet for residential use and 1,400 square feet for ground-level retail. The developers will also provide around 540 square feet of common residential open space with planters in the rear yard and a 725 square foot roof deck. Parking is included for 27 bicycles and no vehicles.

SIA Consulting is responsible for the design. The facade is clad with exterior fiber cement framing the resident windows, while the at-grade retail benefits from tall floor-to-ceiling windows . . . .





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https://sfyimby.com/2021/05/renderings-revealed-for-244-9th-street-soma-san-francisco.html

"Sold" - So apparently it's condo, not rental . . . with no parking and in SOMA so buyers will need to be serious transit users or bike riders who don't plan to age or develop any sort of disability.
     
     
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Old Posted May 24, 2021, 7:41 AM
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Two supervisors turn back reform of appeals process: 'This is a solution looking for a problem'
By Laura Waxmann – Staff Reporter, San Francisco Business Times
May 19, 2021 Updated May 19, 2021, 2:15pm PDT

Right now, one person can appeal a public project in San Francisco on environmental grounds and delay the project while the appeal is heard. Mayor London Breed and some supervisors want to change that, requiring 50 people or five supervisors' support to launch an appeal.

On Monday, their proposal effectively died. The Board of Supervisors Land Use and Transportation Committee tabled the proposed legislation on a 2-1 vote.

Supervisor Myrna Melgar voted in favor of it, while Supervisors Aaron Peskin and Dean Preston declined to move the proposed ordinance to the full Board of Supervisors, saying it would add barriers to public participation while doing little to thwart frivolous appeals.

Peskin said the appeal backlog in San Francisco is “virtually zero,” citing data provided by the Planning Department showing that less than 20 projects out of 21,000 that were subject to a California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) determination in a five-year period were appealed to the board. He said appeals are heard at the board within a six-week period from when they are filed.

"This is a solution looking for a problem," he said.

The ordinance received unanimous support from the Planning Commission in February, and Supervisor Matt Haney on Monday presented it to the panel Monday it as a “narrow common sense reform” aimed at preventing “costly delays of critical public projects” that advance the city’s goals. City staff say processing the appeals can involve hundreds of hours of staff time and tens of thousands of dollars, even if supervisors decline to hear them.

The ordinance, introduced last year by Mayor London Breed with the backing of Haney and various city departments, would have amended the city’s administrative code to allow certain projects to advance while an appeal of the project’s CEQA determination is pending before the Board of Supervisors. The ordinance would have only applied to public projects.

Projects allowed to proceed during an appeal would include those sponsored by the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency, Department of Public Works, San Francisco Airport, Port of San Francisco, Public Utilities Commission and Recreation and Parks Commission, as well as temporary activities that "will be removed or ceased in 180 days" and projects that are "reversible" and do not involve physical construction . . . .
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco...upervisors-table-ceqa-reform-effort.html
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2021, 1:59 AM
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a couple more from the train this week:

the City's Traffic Company and Forensic Services Division Facility at 1995 Evans



phase II of Rebuild Potrero, recently cleared (on side of hill in distance), looks like it hasn't gotten underway in earnest yet



1 de Haro from the train...



(on the left is the current Recology site that might become an Amazon distribution hub)



and, since I went by on my way to Trader Joe's today...

this is looking from approximately the same angle as the train pics, just closer



looking over the fence in the previous pic. I thought these were to become little patio areas, but I guess still in progress



while it's nice to have actual sidewalks on this side of Berry (and sometimes fairly wide ones at that), the building itself is heavy on the concrete and to me not pleasant to walk by. Berry also really needs a slimming-down - it is waaay too wide for what this area (Showplace Square) is becoming (you can see perpendicular parking on both sides, and still super wide). I was hopeful when the Recology site looked like it would become housing; now not so sure with the Amazon proposal.



the NW corner (and the other end of the ?patios)



another angle on the NW corner



standing at NW corner. generous sidewalks here have made this awkward intersection (King, Division, and De Haro) somewhat friendlier


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Old Posted Jun 7, 2021, 2:39 AM
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various things from my walk yesterday...

the one on Bryant near 8th that turned out not to be yellow





Harrison, also near 8th



looking into Berwick Pl on the SW side. the next-door building looks like it is being gutted





along Harrison. both Harrison and Bryant don't seem like ideal places to put housing, with their freeway-adjacent character, but this is a good-looking project



from Heron St, looking at where the street art piece will go back on display at some point



9th and Howard



relationship to 5M





looking along 9th



Trinity ground-level



median work on Van Ness has reached (and crossed) Market St!



... and seems to be moving along pretty quickly











the one at the former car mechanic place with the funny sign, on Turk



the one next to the YMCA on Turk



another crane is visible from the site...



... around the corner on Leavenworth, and it turns out both projects are related.



(by the way, as can be seen in these last few shots, the Tenderloin has some great bones. good-looking, human-scale buildings in a tightly-knit neighborhood close to downtown. it should be one of the more desirable areas of the City.)

Serif



Moscone Muni station. the public art piece has been mostly uncovered



oops, forgot one:


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Old Posted Jun 8, 2021, 5:30 AM
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timbad - Enjoyed your update #10852. The photos you posted of 1140 Harrison with the gray building on the left on the alley which you think is being gutted is 1176 Harrison, once the San Francisco Galvanizing Works. According to Socket Site

https://socketsite.com/archives/2018/01/...ng-soma-development-have-been-drawn.html

in 2018 there was a proposal to gut the interior of the building in a previous post in 2016 with the idea to add a second story. Details for those interested at Socket Site with discussions, some heated as usual! It is actually two buildings, the one built on the east in 1912 & the other built in 1929 at which time they became as one.

FOX PLAZA NEWS - today Polk & Hayes Streets were closed. for about 1 hour as high wind caused 13 metal panels between the ground & second floor on the Polk Street side of the building to partially or wholly come loose or fall from the building. A fire department hook & ladder truck with the ladder extended was seen making emergency repairs.
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^^The wind was really wicked today. It didn’t look like it was whipping the trees any worse than usual but when I went out I noticed even significant dust clouds were blowing from the work being done on the Van Ness BRT.
     
     
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various things from my walk yesterday...

Wow. nice shot.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2021, 9:46 PM
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timbad... the gray building on the left on the alley ... is 1176 Harrison...

https://socketsite.com/archives/2018/01/...ng-soma-development-have-been-drawn.html
thanks for that link, Jerry!
     
     
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Side note, has this area always been considered the TL? I thought it was Union Square, or at least close enough to it to be considered basically Union Square.

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Renderings Revealed For An Office Space At 2 Stockton Street, Tenderloin, San Francisco

By: Palak Japlot 5:00 am on June 9, 2021

A project introducing a seven-story office space makes progress; new renderings have been published for 2 Stockton Street in Tenderloin, San Francisco. The project proposal includes the vertical expansion of an existing four-story retail building by adding two floors of office space and a small penthouse office-level inclusive of outdoor terrace space.



https://sfyimby.com/2021/06/renderings-r...ton-street-tenderloin-san-francisco.html
     
     
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Side note, has this area always been considered the TL? I thought it was Union Square, or at least close enough to it to be considered basically Union Square.

https://sfyimby.com/2021/06/renderings-r...ton-street-tenderloin-san-francisco.html
ha, if you look at the link, I (and then someone else) commented the same thing below the article. Andrew Nelson gives an explanation in response
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2021, 6:53 AM
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Side note, has this area always been considered the TL? I thought it was Union Square, or at least close enough to it to be considered basically Union Square.
It IS Union Square. Did you read the comments section on SFYIMBY? They slammed Mr. Nelson for calling it Tenderloin and he blamed it on Google.
     
     
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ha, if you look at the link, I (and then someone else) commented the same thing below the article. Andrew Nelson gives an explanation in response
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It IS Union Square. Did you read the comments section on SFYIMBY? They slammed Mr. Nelson for calling it Tenderloin and he blamed it on Google.
Yes, I did see timbad's comment (although after I considered the question myself independently), and I thought I'd check here too since this is more of a discussion forum and was curious to hear further local opinion.
     
     
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