DENVER | Main Development Thread #7

[UrbanT]

Originally Posted by bunt_q

For what it's worth, I sort of agree with this. Sam Hill does not...

Huh? These posts make zero sense. Companies are not building big corporate HQs anymore because of woke cancel culture? That is word vomit filled with trigger words haha. Intolerant puritan roots?

[laniroj]

Originally Posted by bunt_q

For what it's worth, I sort of agree with this. Sam Hill does not...

guess I hit a "woke up" button because apparently my comment is now cancelled...

[laniroj]

Originally Posted by UrbanT

Huh? These posts make zero sense. Companies are not building big corporate HQs anymore because of woke cancel culture? That is word vomit filled with trigger words haha. Intolerant puritan roots?

My point is that companies are wanting to be low key nowadays, not flashy and sticking out. You aren't seeing the Equitable's of the 1900's building castles in the sky to impress everyone - not in this country at least though it is happening elsewhere in the world. Apple spent billions on an office that nobody can actually see - hell they spent more on landscaping to screen that beautiful gem from everyone than most tech campuses cost in total. Greed is no longer good my friends.

Glad you like my puritan reference, but I'm not sorry if that offends you.

[The Dirt]

I generally agree with most of what laniroj says, but that just felt like a non-sequitur meant to trigger "liberals". Sure, some on the left are super preoccupied with virtue signaling on their way down ther purity spiral, but it's a stretch to suggests that corporations that spent the 60s-90s measuring their dicks are somehow related. Trends change and the trend of flashy corporate HQs went away far before woke culture.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by UrbanT

Huh? These posts make zero sense. Companies are not building big corporate HQs anymore because of woke cancel culture? That is word vomit filled with trigger words haha. Intolerant puritan roots?

Agree; I'm totally lost over this whole discussion.

Originally Posted by laniroj

Glad you like my puritan reference, but I'm not sorry if that offends you.

No offense taken here since I couldn't even follow what your meaning was.

Puritanism

censorious moral beliefs, especially about self-indulgence and 🞵🞵🞵.

Would I be correct in assuming that having 🞵🞵🞵 at the top of a Super Tall building is totally "unwoke" so they no longer build them?

[TakeFive]

Thanks for you contribution and very well done.

Originally Posted by i4isoar

Denver and Its Peer Cities: Tallest and Largest Skyscrapers

Nice comment

Originally Posted by Brainpathology

Boy stats are fun.. I can't argue with the data I guess.. But I'll just say that Cale Makar and I are peers because we're both 5'11"

Would it be a troll to say a city can't be a peer of another if they don't have the equivalent complement of professional sports teams? That would actually erase most (I'd probably leave Portland on the list for reasons I can't verbalize) of the cities that make my eyebrows raise.

Maybe the equivalent complement of major cultural attractions (how fun would defining those be!!)? That one brings back San Diego, in my tiny head.. and I'm not sure what it does to Portland/Minneapolis/Austin.

Not trying to hate on Orlando or Tampa or any other cities.. I love it here in central FL. But damn.

Not the biggest fan of statistics normally because they don't talk, there's no context and they're not dynamic.

Different people tend to have different thoughts on what a peer city is, often based on their own subjective biases so I wanted to start from a more objective base.

I would join you in thinking of including sports and you're certainly right that San Diego has some of the best cultural facilities.

[Sam Hill]

Originally Posted by The Dirt

I generally agree with most of what laniroj says, but that just felt like a non-sequitur meant to trigger "liberals". Sure, some on the left are super preoccupied with virtue signaling on their way down ther purity spiral, but it's a stretch to suggests that corporations that spent the 60s-90s measuring their dicks are somehow related. Trends change and the trend of flashy corporate HQs went away far before woke culture.

Yes. Exactly. I hate cancel culture as much as the next guy but keep that 🞵🞵🞵🞵 out of this thread.

Puritan what? It’s nonsense that has nothing to do with office buildings.

[SirLucasTheGreat]

Not sure what cancel culture has to do with anything. I'm not a fan of it, insofar that it is a tangible social and institutional phenomenon that exists outside of the fevered rantings of right wing outrage merchants. I don't know. We're less than six months past a failed coup attempt so I can't say that I've committed significant attention to it or its effect on high rise development. At any rate, anybody see any cool retail open anywhere recently? I saw the new Choice Market in Golden Triangle and it looked dope.

[bunt_q]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

Would I be correct in assuming that having 🞵🞵🞵 at the top of a Super Tall building is totally "unwoke" so they no longer build them?

This would be totally dependent on the identity of the 🞵🞵🞵 in question. White-on-white, straight 🞵🞵🞵; definitely unwoke anywhere above the first couple floors on the poor-door side of the building.

[laniroj]

Originally Posted by SirLucasTheGreat

…At any rate, anybody see any cool retail open anywhere recently?…

I’ve recently heard the Glendale entertainment whatever thing by the rug company holdout is moving forward (without the rug company’s 2,000 foot super tall of course).

[The Dirt]

That whole development is like Benjamin Button. 15 years ago it was a fairly mature, if not boring and unimaginative proposal. Today, it's some sort of 60s strip mall / used auto dealership coked up fever dream. (If we put a Bugatti in the renderings, it'll look classy!) Should it have a housing component? Of course not! What do you think Glendale is, Buffalo?

[SirLucasTheGreat]

Yeah the new Glendale might be overdoing it in the movie theater department. Even in a prepandemic world, it seems like another movie theater there would be excessive. I mean you have the AMC in the Cherry Creek mall, the AMC at 9th and Colorado and the Goliath IMAX at Colorado and I-25. Speaking of which, is anybody aware of any more development around the Colorado Center near Colorado and I-25? From a transit standpoint, that's a much better location than 9th and Colorado or Glendale.

[Ndj]

Love that one of the premier features of the new Glendale Fun Zone is parking



This is just a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 strip mall with fancy marketing. Exactly what I would expect form Glendale.

Edit: I also love that all you can see on the website is aerial shots of the beautiful park they plan to replace with their downtown disney strip mall. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[TakeFive]

This Post is based on a True Story

The office market is so bad that a RiNo office building will be converted into a FARM.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/...-office-building-farm-market-denver.html

A vacant office building at the gateway to Denver's River North Art District is poised to be converted to a high-tech farm and fresh produce market following a sale to a local firm.

Breedlove Capital, a Denver-based family office, recently purchased the two-story office building and adjacent surface parking lot at 2401 Larimer St., along North Broadway, for $3.38 million, according to property records. The company plans to work with a yet-to-be-announced tenant to outfit the building with a hydroponic farm and associated retail space that will be used to sell the daily harvest directly to consumers.

An on-site chef will also be preparing food using the farm's produce — think salads, juices and healthy snacks, said Stephanie Breedlove, who co-founded Breedlove Capital alongside her husband, Bill.

I got a kick out of this

Originally Posted by The Dirt

That whole development is like Benjamin Button. 15 years ago it was a fairly mature, if not boring and unimaginative proposal. Today, it's some sort of 60s strip mall / used auto dealership coked up fever dream.

Originally Posted by SirLucasTheGreat

At any rate, anybody see any cool retail open anywhere recently? I saw the new Choice Market in Golden Triangle and it looked dope.

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All photos courtesy of Choice Market via ConvenienceStore News


Inside the New Frictionless Choice Market
04/21/2021 - Convenience Store News

DENVER — Choice Market is redefining the convenience store model with the debut of one of the world’s largest contactless and frictionless markets.

Located at 939 Bannock St. in Denver, the 5,000-square-foot market features the brand's revolutionary Choice: NOW shopping experience, an omnichannel platform that allows guests to step into the future via a fully frictionless grocery shopping journey powered by Aifi, according to Choice Market.

This article is from an industry publication for convenience stores and they are as pumped up as is SirLucasTheGreat.

"This is a huge moment, not only for us, but for the entire industry. We are beyond excited to partner with AiFi to launch our Choice: NOW shopping experience, which provides our customers a contactless, convenient and independent shopping option," said Choice founder and CEO Mike Fogarty. "In conjunction with our high-quality, personalized scratch kitchen, in-house native delivery, and click and collect options, we are providing our customers with choice in terms of how they shop and ultimately creating a disruptive business model that is reinventing convenience."

This is cutting edge stuff, apparently.

According to Steve Gu, co-founder and CEO of Aifi — provider of reliable, cost-effective and entirely contactless autonomous shopping with AI-powered computer vision technology — Choice Market Bannock is the largest camera-only store that the company has launched in the United States to date.

For those that are unaware, "Choice Market Bannock is conveniently located on the ground level of Parq on Speer."

[coolmandan03]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

This Post is based on a True Story

The office market is so bad that a RiNo office building will be converted into a FARM.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/...-office-building-farm-market-denver.html

Lets not pretend that this "office building" turning into a farm is like an actual office building or any sign of the office real estate market. I can't imagine how it houses offices in the first place... and it has been sitting vacant long before COVID.

[gopokes21]

Originally Posted by The Dirt

I generally agree with most of what laniroj says, but that just felt like a non-sequitur meant to trigger "liberals". Sure, some on the left are super preoccupied with virtue signaling on their way down ther purity spiral, but it's a stretch to suggests that corporations that spent the 60s-90s measuring their dicks are somehow related. Trends change and the trend of flashy corporate HQs went away far before woke culture.

Wait - you don't see how corporate greed is connecting to where liberalism is at today?

[TakeFive]

Denver is merely average and well behind other peer cities

Study: Denver worker burnout at an all-time high
Jun 10, 2021 by: Kevin Torres - KVDR

DENVER (KDVR) — There’s new research out showing Denver worker burnout levels are at an all-time high. The study conducted by the world’s largest staffing firm, ‘Robert Half’, shows a sharp uptick in burnout levels compared to this same time last year; and in many cases, the levels are considered severe.

According to the brand new data, 44% of Denver workers say they are more burned out now than in June of 2020; that’s up a jarring 34% (from June 2020).

Context please

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/more-w...other-places/V6TJWDCXWZDA7FUVO36AG3ZH3U/

And workers in the Queen City are feeling it more than their counterparts in most other parts of the U.S. Charlotte is tied with Chicago as the places where the largest share of workers — 55% — feeling more burned out than they did a year ago, according to staffing giant Robert Half International.

https://www.seattlemet.com/health-and-wellness/2021/06/in-seattle-pandemic-worker-burnout-is-real

Half of Seattle workers surveyed by global staffing firm Robert Half feel more burned out than they did a year ago... That number tied for third among cities in the U.S., ahead of pressure cookers like New York and DC.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...ate-among-phoenix-workers-in-top-10.html

....a new study by California-based staffing company Robert Half that shows 49% of Phoenix’s workforce is experiencing burnout. Phoenix tied for seventh with Houston among the 28 cities surveyed. Phoenix was behind Charlotte, Chicago, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Dallas, and Seattle, which all saw 50 to 55% burnout rates.

Thank you

So being merely average (44%) is a good thing.


Photo courtesy Visit Denver

[Sam Hill]

Originally Posted by gopokes21

Wait - you don't see how corporate greed is connecting to where liberalism is at today?

Please don’t anyone take this bait. ^ Let’s see if we can prevent this thread from becoming a 🞵🞵🞵🞵-show for the next 8 pages.

[Sam Hill]

The first phase of Hurley Place, two 12-story mixed-use towers in RiNo, will begin in 2022

[SirLucasTheGreat]

That part of RiNo between 38th, 35th, Brighton, and the Platte River is really exciting. This project will be a great addition along with the under construction RiNo promenade and The Current. Is the Watershed still going to be built?