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[zen-kz]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

The bike lanes serve mostly one demographic, white entitled males between the ages of 30-50, seriously any new Canadian didn't come here to ride a bike!

What a bullshit! Why on earth people now are adding racial component to anything. We are all equal and a race is just your skin tone and that’s it.

Is there any sign “white man only” on those bike lanes! It is built for everyone and everyone can use it. Moreover bikes are one of most affordable ways of transportation - you pay $150 for a bike and $50ish per year for repairs. If someone choose not to buy and use bikes it is their sole choice - no matter if you “white male between 30 and 50” or a new Canadian.

[3de14eec6a]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

I thought the plan was to put the fire/water ambulance or whatever station there. Anyone know what happened to that?

Also, that looks like it's cutting off the walking/bike path. I hope I'm just reading the scaling wrong. Because I imagine some people will feel murderous if that happens.

[EdwardTH]

Originally Posted by zen-kz

What a bullshit! Why on earth people now are adding racial component to anything. We are all equal and a race is just your skin tone and that’s it.

Is there any sign “white man only” on those bike lanes! It is built for everyone and everyone can use it. Moreover bikes are one of most affordable ways of transportation - you pay $150 for a bike and $50ish per year for repairs. If someone choose not to buy and use bikes it is their sole choice - no matter if you “white male between 30 and 50” or a new Canadian.

Hi you must be new to the forum, rrskylar's entire identity is thinly-veiled race-baiting along with making up false bullshit in his crusade against bike lanes. Pro tip, you can set it up to block his posts if you only want to see the posts from grown-ups.

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by 3de14eec6a

I thought the plan was to put the fire/water ambulance or whatever station there. Anyone know what happened to that?

Also, that looks like it's cutting off the walking/bike path. I hope I'm just reading the scaling wrong. Because I imagine some people will feel murderous if that happens.

Looks like the bulk of the funds from the sale will be transferred to the fire/ambulance expropriation account (i.e., the sale of this land will be used to fund the future purchase of land for the fire dept).

And, Public Works "confirmed their support of the sale if the redevelopment does not compromise Parks ability to maintain the riverbank path or impede use of the path. The boundaries of the Subject City Property were amended to provide sufficient space for the path"

So it seems like the path is safe.

[davequanbury]

Originally Posted by RAFS

This is incorrect thinking. Both directions have equal rights to the road and therefore either driver can give the right of way. It irks me to no end that many people do not know this.

When you are driving facing the same direction as the parked cars, you yield to the oncoming traffic. Very simple rule of the road. While not written in traffic law, it's just the easiest, most courteous thing to do.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

The bike lanes serve mostly one demographic, white entitled males between the ages of 30-50, seriously any new Canadian didn't come here to ride a bike! Certain politicians got hoodwinked by the overly vocal bike lobby group who thought emulating what they had in Victoria BC was a good idea here oblivious to climate constraints.

What's so hard to figure out that if you make it harder for someone to shop in a certain area because of a lack of parking they will choose to go somewhere else, this walkability bullshit is just that no one wants to shop and haul bags 7 blocks for the ambience of bike lanes or for the perceived pleasure of walkability never mind the safety factor. You want more people in the exchange, add more parking not less!

Post pandemic more people will choose to continue to work from home, good luck if you think things are going back to the way they were, downtown living is going to become less desirable not more. If you travel around the city and even outside the city you see more and more condo and rental properties popping up everywhere, guess why?

Its weird how Winnipeg has more downtown surface parking than any city in canada and also has the fewest storefront shops.....also weird that the area south of Portage has more parking than IKEA and is almost completely void of retail.

Almost like the economic model of a shopping mall and a downtown aren't the same.

Also....I think someone should spend some time watching who is using the Exchange District/West Alexander bike network.

That being said, my preference to the Exchange bike lanes would be to return all the streets to two way and reduce the speed limits to 30km/h. Then we can get rid of the protected lanes.

[Biff]

He can't...he is too busy yelling at clouds.

[buzzg]

Even in the middle of a pandemic there are always people using the bike lanes in the Exchange. And, while it may be surprising to some, there's a *gasp* wide range of demographics. Don't forget downtown and Exchange are surrounded my many low income and recent immigrant-filled areas, many do not have cars. Bikes are a great way to get around.

[3de14eec6a]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

So it seems like the path is safe.

Fantastic, thanks for the extra info

[esquire]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Even in the middle of a pandemic there are always people using the bike lanes in the Exchange. And, while it may be surprising to some, there's a *gasp* wide range of demographics. Don't forget downtown and Exchange are surrounded my many low income and recent immigrant-filled areas, many do not have cars. Bikes are a great way to get around.

Yeah, the idea that everyone in bike lanes is a MAMIL (middle aged man in lycra) who rides an expensive bike and looks like this guy is not realistic.



I see a lot of younger people, particularly women riding functional bikes, dressed for work and not exercise. I also see a lot of people who look to me (based on bike, clothes, etc.) like people of lesser means because bikes are an extremely affordable way to get around. So it's definitely a mixed bag of people riding bikes in the more central parts of the city.

[buzzg]

Ya, if there's any real issue with the bike lanes in the Exchange, it's that the signage is awful. Way too many signs aimed at drivers, and barely any signage for actual cyclists. No route info, little and unclear directional signage. There's always people riding the wrong way, but to be fair some of the lanes are quite wide – oh and the city decided to make them all one way but didn't make a NB one, so people always ride north on Princess.

[bomberjet]

Princess is bi-directional from William to Henry.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by davequanbury

When you are driving facing the same direction as the parked cars, you yield to the oncoming traffic. Very simple rule of the road. While not written in traffic law, it's just the easiest, most courteous thing to do.

It is written in "traffic law":

The Highway Traffic Act

Keeping to right when meeting

112(1)

The driver of a vehicle shall keep to his right when he is meeting another vehicle that is moving.

Yielding half of roadway

112(2)

The driver of a vehicle upon a roadway that has a width for only one line of traffic in each direction shall, when meeting another vehicle that is moving, give to the other vehicle at least one-half of the roadway as nearly as possible.

Passing on very narrow roadways

112(3)

If it is impracticable for drivers of moving vehicles that are meeting one another

(a) each to give to the other at least one-half of the roadway; or

(b) to pass each other on the right;

each of the drivers shall immediately stop his vehicle and before proceeding to pass the other shall take all reasonable steps to learn whether he can do so with safety to himself and others; and, if required, each of the drivers shall assist the other to pass in safety.

Obviously it is a reasonable step to pull in as much as possible to allow the car on the side of the roadway without parked vehicles to pass.


Winnipeg, and the Prairies in general, have VERY bad drivers who lack basic knowledge of the rules of the road, including the following:

Keeping right except to pass
Maintaining a reasonable speed, if you do like to drive slow keep right
Failing to signal
Inability to merge and to move left (obv. if possible) to allow traffic to merge
Not understanding the order of precedence at a 4 way stop
Speeding down residential streets
Honking horns when locking doors, this setting can be easily changed.

Far too many vehicles are modified and are in breach of the HTA as it relates to vehicle noise. The problem here of course is enforcement. Some motorcycles in particular are so loud as to be injurious to hearing. In Wolseley you can hear motorcycles on Portage Ave. from Palmerston Ave. I can't understand why this province is so lax in that regard.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Princess is bi-directional from William to Henry.

It most certainly is not. I think that's the plan for the future, but it is single direction SB currently.

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by plrh

Is this for 50km/h streets only? What happens on a highway? When you go into the left lane there I am certain you are taking liability. I took driver's ed in '97, and I think I was taught to yield to oncoming traffic if my lane was blocked. This is a good reason we should have mandatory refresher courses for driving.

A road with marked lanes is different. Residential streets down't have marked lanes. Just like Arlington between Portage and Notre Dame being 1 lane each way with parking space on both sides. Too many drivers treat it as a 4 lane street. Take this from a professional city driver. And when my 40' vehicle is coming at you and I have nowhere to pull out you're either going to wait by a space I can pull out into or you'll be backing up.

https://youtu.be/XGmFfmZd760

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by buzzg

It most certainly is not. I think that's the plan for the future, but it is single direction SB currently.

Oh sorry you're right. It's the next phase of work. For some reason I thought it was the work that was already done.

Whatever was done is staying as is. The drawings show it only being one way. I assume the NB people will access the 2 way on Princess via William. Seems a bit odd.

https://winnipeg.ca/publicworks/pedestri...essprotectedbikelane.stm#tab-preliminary

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by EdwardTH

Hi you must be new to the forum, rrskylar's entire identity is thinly-veiled race-baiting along with making up false bullshit in his crusade against bike lanes. Pro tip, you can set it up to block his posts if you only want to see the posts from grown-ups.

Thanks Edward, knew you’d chime with your reverse discrimination!

The left wing woke crowd here looks to have a new member!

[michelleb]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Whatever was done is staying as is. The drawings show it only being one way. I assume the NB people will access the 2 way on Princess via William. Seems a bit odd.

https://winnipeg.ca/publicworks/pedestri...essprotectedbikelane.stm#tab-preliminary

I don't travel it enough to remember, so I always end up biking the wrong way on Princess at some point. It's like a drunk frat party designed the bike lanes in that area.

Speaking of Osborne/Mulvey area...has anything been announced about either developing or selling the empty parcel owned by Winnipeg Transit on south side of Osborne between Glasgow and Woodward?

[BigG]

Originally Posted by Kinguni

Common misconception. Vehicles are to take turns. Neither direction has the right of way.

I guess my driver's ed instructor was wrong.

[BigG]

Originally Posted by davequanbury

When you are driving facing the same direction as the parked cars, you yield to the oncoming traffic. Very simple rule of the road. While not written in traffic law, it's just the easiest, most courteous thing to do.

This. Key word courteous.