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Old Posted Apr 16, 2021, 11:31 PM
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various things that didn't fit in their own threads (or whose threads have been closed)...
Thank you for the update! It's great to see progress on so many fronts.
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2021, 2:21 AM
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Plugging "mixed income communities" into low income communities IS gentrification and I was actually looking at it from the perspective of the new address on Jones St. and/or Golden Gate at Jones which IS a rough neighborhood. So actually is that part of Mid-Market no matter how "busy" it is (although now that it's private carless even that'll be interesting to see).

Actually, I don't think I even understand your point. If anything, Mid-Market and that part of the Tenderloin may have worse reputations than they warrant but they are rough. I find Mid-Market scarier than almost any other part of town.
The point is that it's sloppy and inadequate to use the term "gentrification" to describe new housing in the epicenter of densely populated San Francisco, on main streets where there's plenty of need for additional housing density, even if it's adjacent to a neighborhood that's considered lower-income. I find it hilarious (and slightly sad) that you'd insinuate that new residents will learn to deal with it by "calling the police".

Additionally, mixed-income isn't like a theoretical classification or a political term; it's literally just an indication of income variables within an area. Creating new housing in lower-income areas is in no way gentrification (compared to replacing low-income housing) and is in every way what every sober supervisor, mayor, planning, housing advocate is promoting in order to create healthier and economically mobile communities.

Also, I mean 'busy' as in economic traffic. People on the street, not cars, per se.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2021, 7:52 PM
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Hastings Law School Demolition is now down to the basement level - view from the Asian Art Museum. The demolition for those who don't know is for a taller building to be built there. In the foreground is the new terrace at the Asian Art Museum. (photo was taken through a dirty window!)

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Old Posted Apr 17, 2021, 11:15 PM
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Is that Vladimir Tatlin's Monument to the Third International in the foreground?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2021, 6:40 AM
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Is that Vladimir Tatlin's Monument to the Third International in the foreground?
thanks for the reference! since Asian Art Museum, maybe Ai Weiwei's Fountain of Light, which is based on it?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2021, 6:39 PM
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I forgot to post the shots of the little one next to the SFPUC building in Civic Center; not sure we'd seen it completely uncovered



     
     
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2021, 10:14 PM
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I was excited to see a proposal for the parcel at Third and Harrison on SFYimby. have literally been wondering for decades when something might go in there
     
     
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Is that Vladimir Tatlin's Monument to the Third International in the foreground?
Ha! Thought the same
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2021, 12:31 AM
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I was excited to see a proposal for the parcel at Third and Harrison on SFYimby. have literally been wondering for decades when something might go in there
Yes please!

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Man... I can't wait for Harrison Street to be developed
     
     
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timbad, unpermitted_variance - It is Ai Weiwei's Fountain of Light, based on Vladimire Tatin's Monument to the Third International. It will be clad in crystals & look like a chandalier. I'm not excited to see it - not my cuppa tea.
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I was excited to see a proposal for the parcel at Third and Harrison on SFYimby. have literally been wondering for decades when something might go in there
This has a thread: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246554
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2021, 8:54 AM
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^ Jerry, thanks for the confirmation

^ Pedestrian, thanks for making the thread

various things from a walk today...

the KQED building makeover is starting to show (Mariposa and Bryant)



(in the left foreground, you can barely see a bit of the large Muni yard that is also slated for a major makeover)

down the street, a little further into the NE Mission, this little project looks like it is about to get underway



... while across the street from that, 681 Florida is underway



the Florida St side





moving over a few blocks to the projects we are familiar with, starting with the one at 17th and Folsom



still working on the passageway that separates it from the park



on the right edge of the earlier pic you can glimpse this one on 16th St. looking west



east



in relation to the other one that recently went up at 16th and S Van Ness



the one on Mission just north of 16th



the former oil change place on Duboce and Valencia



2238 Market



couple of Van Ness... in this case S Van Ness, whose sidewalk is fully open again on the west side after undergoing its not-as-fancy-as-Van-Ness makeover



and the state of Van Ness in front of City Hall



the one where the witty sign used to be is still mostly a big black box



the one on Mission near 7th



the one on 7th near Mission (whose website you can see in the pic) looks finally complete after seeming to have dragged on for quite a while



and a little further down 7th, west side, I forget which one this is

     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2021, 2:57 AM
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Thanks for all the infill pics, timbad.
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SF, and SFYIMBY, for that matter, are killing it lately.

The Market Hall building in particular looks great. Very Seoul/Tokyo-like.

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Office Allocation Application Filed For Flower Mart At 610 Brannan Street, SoMa, San Francisco
BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON APRIL 20, 2021

Market Hall is a proposed nine-story 148-foot building with an oculus extending from the rooftop to the ground-level plaza. The distinctive design feature will become the oculus breezeway where pedestrians can cut through from Market Alley to Brannan Street. The building will yield 351,900 square feet.





https://sfyimby.com/2021/04/office-alloc...0-brannan-street-soma-san-francisco.html
     
     
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Great updates!

I'll be in town in May/June and was wondering what its like on the ground from a locals perspective. I've heard a lot of people saying its dooms day, apocalypse, etc- and others saying its not that bad but there are lots of closed stores/restaurants along the market/SOMA corridor.

I love SF but want to be prepared for what I see. Thanks for any input!
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2021, 10:28 PM
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Great updates!

I'll be in town in May/June and was wondering what its like on the ground from a locals perspective. I've heard a lot of people saying its dooms day, apocalypse, etc- and others saying its not that bad but there are lots of closed stores/restaurants along the market/SOMA corridor.

I love SF but want to be prepared for what I see. Thanks for any input!
Everything that didn't close due to the pandemic (including indoors stuff) is open at 50% capacity. There's still an excellent selection of dining options available, indoors or outdoors. Popular outdoor spots like the Embarcadero, Fort Mason, Dolores Park, Golden Gate Park, Patricia's Green, etc are pretty much back to pre-pandemic vibrancy levels. You can also catch a Warriors or Giants game in person as well.
     
     
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Great updates!

I'll be in town in May/June and was wondering what its like on the ground from a locals perspective. I've heard a lot of people saying its dooms day, apocalypse, etc- and others saying its not that bad but there are lots of closed stores/restaurants along the market/SOMA corridor.

I love SF but want to be prepared for what I see. Thanks for any input!
I'm not there now--returning this weekend. But when I left in November post-apocalyptic wasn't too far off. Many restaurants were operating in their outdoor "parklets" (the curb lane taken over with structures and amenities like heating of various quality) and I found those very pleasant for dining (my experience was mainly in Hayes Valley). I hope they stay. I'll choose to eat outdoors even if there's an indoor option--I did before the pandemic.

But what was missing was any form of indoor entertainment: movies, symphony, opera, ballet, any type of performances, bars, clubs, sports (Warriors) etc etc. I believe the movies are open again with reduced capacity but, again, I've learned to prefer watching at home. The Giants are playing ball to live fans again--but, again, fewer of them. I gather concerts and performances would now be allowed with smaller audiences allowing "distancing" if and when the performing arts want to get going but May/June is normally the season only for summer opera and I doubt they've had time to plan for that. There may be some events at Stern Grove (an outdoor performance space).

So things are getting better and I read that Marin County--across the Golden Gate--has or will soon move to the state's "yellow tier" which means a lot of business as usual over there. SF isn't that much worse off in terms of numbers of cases so we'll see. We could be yellow by the time you come (if the Mayor doesn't add restrictions as she has done before).

The worst thing to me about pandemic San Francisco, aside from the lack of its usual varied entertainment, was the CRIME. The lack of people on the streets in some areas gave free reign to criminals. I know of 2 drug stores that have closed because their shelves were literally stripped bare by shoplifters too often (thefts of value under $950 are now a misdemeanor in CA so the cops sometimes don't even come for petty shoplifting). There seems to be an ongoing wave of garage break-ins and package thefts from apartment lobbies (in spite of supposedly being accessible only to tenants). Quite a few muggings. But car break-ins are reportedly down if only because tourists were the favorite victims (they leave stuff in their cars) and there aren't any of those.

On the other hand, in my neighborhood, at least, we had fewer sidewalk tent campers because they were given hotel rooms no longer occupied by tourists or "safe spaces" for camping in parking lots no longer needed for workers in offices. As the offices reopen and the hotels want to try to entice tourists, I expect that to reverse. How it will be as soon as May/June I can't say.
     
     
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Great updates!

I'll be in town in May/June and was wondering what its like on the ground from a locals perspective. I've heard a lot of people saying its dooms day, apocalypse, etc- and others saying its not that bad but there are lots of closed stores/restaurants along the market/SOMA corridor.

I love SF but want to be prepared for what I see. Thanks for any input!
State restrictions are being lifted June 15th, so a lot will be open starting then. And whether May or June, dress in layers--it normally gets quite chilly and windy in the afternoon and stays chilly overnight.
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Thanks guys! Good thing to note Craigs, the first time I ever visited SF was during August, or colloquially ''Fogust'', and was pretty shocked at how cold it felt. New York in August is similar to setting yourself on fire while in a sauna.

My main concern isn't really entertainment options as it is safety. SF is kind of dicey on a good day (at least along Market/SOMA, where I'll be based) so hoping its not much worse than pre-pandemic. Pedestrian, I would appreciate an update when you return in regards to this. I'll be mainly doing client visits but might also pop into the odd gay bar (if open) lol.

Theres a chance I might relocate to the Bay Area, if that's the case then I'd be happy to provide periodic construction updates as well. Sorry for hijacking the thread.
     
     
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