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Old Posted Jan 14, 2021, 6:17 PM
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Here's a laugh on the Maple Grove proposal, Hubley makes his shpeel and one of his points is that the transit system is designed to get people downtown, and not around the Kanata area. YOUR THE DAMN TRANSIT CHAIR!!!! YOU HAVE THE POWER TO INFLUENCE CHANGE!!!!
The point is also factually incorrect. The development is 100 m from Terry Fox Dr, where there is a frequent transit route that does not go downtown, but provides service every 15 minutes to Kanata Centrum, Hazeldean Rd and the Hazeldean Mall.

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Planning committee endorses controversial Kanata South development, rejects 'Big Mac' argument

Jon Willing
Publishing date:Jan 14, 2021 • 2 minute read



MG4 Investments is proposing to build two three-storey apartment buildings to replace a single-family home at 33 Maple Grove Rd. in Kanata. The development application has caused a stir in the community, with residents arguing the proposal isn't suitable for the neighbourhood. PHOTO BY PROVIDED /MG4 Investments development application

The planning committee on Thursday voted in support of a controversial development application in a Kanata neighbourhood after hearing from bitter residents that two new apartment buildings are overkill for a property currently inhabited by a single-family home.

MG4 Investments Inc., the owner of a corner property at 33 Maple Grove Rd. in the Katimavik-Hazeldean neighbourhood, wants to replace the home with two three-storey buildings with six units each.

The zoning for the property and surrounding area has a height limit of 11 metres, but the neighbourhood is mostly made up of low-rise single-family homes and a hospice across from the site. The development application calls for buildings that are 11.5 metres tall.

Included among the seven residents who spoke in opposition to the proposal was Brad Hall, who said he noticed the development information sign at the property asked residents to let the city know what they think about the proposal.

“We’ve let you know,” Hall said. “Are you listening?”

Councillors on the committee listened, but overwhelmingly sided with the professional advice of their planning department, which recommended a zoning change to allow the two buildings since the proposal aligns with policies in the city’s official plan.

Another neighbourhood resident, Don Bell, said people will respect intensification if the development is “honest, respectful and fair,” qualities he didn’t see in the two-building proposal.

The city’s goal to increase residential intensification is at the centre of the controversy.

One of the property owner’s planning consultants, Murray Chown of Novatech, reminded councillors that they approved aggressive intensification targets last year and established a policy to have more than half of new homes be built in established communities.

There’s no avoiding it; the suburbs will need to absorb residential density, Chown said.

“You must accommodate additional units outside the Greenbelt in the communities of Kanata, Barrhaven, Riverside South and Orléans,” Chown said.

The community — like so many others across the city, and especially those inside the Greenbelt that see high-density development applications roll through city hall on a regular basis — doesn’t see how loading up homes on a single property is compatible with the neighbourhood’s fabric.

Matt Brearey, vice-president of the community association, compared the proposed development to piling a Big Mac with extra toppings and not being able to fit the burger into the standard Big Mac box.

The committee, through its 8-1 vote to approve the application, found the argument hard to swallow.

Kanata South Coun. Allan Hubley, who represents the area, was the only vote in opposition to the development application.

Council is scheduled to vote on Jan. 27.

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Old Posted Jan 15, 2021, 9:29 PM
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Had to reply just because that whole J Willing recount of the committee meeting got me riled up.

What a bunch of morons. What vague arguments. Laughably bad attempts to rationalize and justify their snowflake feelings. What little foresight they have. The facts are simple. This community was built out decades ago at bargain prices. Both in a long term sense and a short term sense, their apparent price has appreciated. The owners will get their fair share of return no matter when they bought.

Factor in further that a new development and future developments will likely BOOST local neighborhood value as more people typically means more services, more demand to live in an area.

The property itself? Did anyone seriously think their arguments would make sense on inspection of a map of the property?

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/33+Mapl...8522a21d8!8m2!3d45.3005505!4d-75.9011722

What does fabric of neighborhood even mean in this case? How can these buildings not fit in? Since when did morons get it in their heads that owning a land in a suburb meant they could exercise control over neighboring lands. Unless otherwise written in some agreement by a neighborhood association, your concerns are of no value beyond serving as a sanity check.

In this case, they have completely exhausted all good faith as far as I am concerned. Can't wait to see this apartment building get built. I will drive by to dance in front of the construction site.

Pathetic NIMBYS. I own a home in the east end and I would be ecstatic if they filled some nearby decrepit infills with higher density. We don't even have job centers out this way like those in Kanata do to boost our neighborhoods potential value added.
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Fight over Kanata apartment development is a glimpse into the future
City councillors might want to step back and ask themselves why they are forcing changes to neighbourhoods when people clearly don't want them.

Author of the article: Randall Denley
Publishing date: Jan 19, 2021 • 5 hours ago • 3 minute read


Ottawa city councillors are determined that most of the city’s future growth will be the result of intensification, whether the public likes it or not. If community reaction to a proposed apartment building in Kanata is any indicator, that goal will be easier to set than to achieve.

The Kanata proposal consists of two three-storey apartment buildings on what is now an unusually wide single family lot. There will be 12 apartments and parking for 16 cars. The new apartments will face a hospice. A small cemetery is kitty-corner from the development. The controversial site is on Maple Grove, a major entrance road into the Katimavik-Hazeldean neighbourhood.

This isn’t the kind of blockbusting apartment development that the city’s new Official Plan envisions being inserted in neighbourhoods right across the city. And yet, 150 people attended a virtual meeting on the proposal and 240 written comments were submitted, most of them negative. It’s an astounding response for a proposal that will affect few people directly. It ought to serve as a warning to city officials who believe there is a huge appetite for intensification.

It’s not difficult to see why the neighbours would be unenthusiastic. The house that’s there now is no prize, but it is a single family home. The apartment buildings will be turned sideways on the lot. That means people on Maple Grove will have a view of the side of an apartment building and a parking lot.

The development proposal falls a little short of the city’s policy of enhancing and complementing what’s already in the neighbourhood now. To be fair, the new buildings do emulate the architectural style of Katimavik-Hazeldean, which is a mixed blessing. The 1980s were perhaps not the peak moment of suburban architecture.

Nevertheless, neighbours raised every conceivable objection. The most novel was that the height of the buildings would result in more bird collisions. Perhaps closer to the mark was a concern over property values. City planning staff airily dismissed this with the statement that “There is no evidence to suggest that development applications and new construction adversely impact property values.” Perhaps what is being built might be the important factor.

While neighbours have a shopping list of concerns, the city’s response to all of them boils down to “but it meets all the rules.” That’s no surprise since the rules are designed to allow just the sort of development that’s being proposed. The plan has already been supported by the planning committee and will inevitably pass at city council next week.

Intensification seems sensible, on the face of it. Increasing density in existing areas means less suburban expansion. While expanding the suburbs is necessary to accommodate growth, even under the city’s ambitious intensification plan, it’s certainly not a good in itself. It’s a question of balance. The new city Official Plan that’s in the works imagines that intensification’s already ambitious 40-per-cent share of new growth can increase to 60 per cent by 2041.

To achieve that, councillors will have to ignore community protests of the type we are seeing in Kanata. Selling intensification in existing neighbourhoods is a tough challenge. Few people buy a home, then say, “Boy, I hope this street really changes in the future.” They are unlikely to be swayed by the argument that apartment buildings should be constructed next to their house to protect some unspecified piece of rural land somewhere else.

The push for intensification creates an interesting clash of rights. Property owners have the right to develop their property up to the limits of what the city allows. The public consultation that accompanies development proposals implies that owners of existing homes have a stake in the future of their neighbourhoods.

Perhaps most Ottawa neighbourhoods will welcome infill apartment buildings, although history would suggest otherwise. If they do not, councillors might want to step back and ask themselves why they are forcing changes that people just don’t want. Would they welcome such development next door to their own houses?

Randall Denley is an Ottawa political commentator and author. Contact him at [email protected]

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/denley...development-is-a-glimpse-into-the-future
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Imagine when the O-Train is extended to Kanata and we start seeing high-rise proposals,. That'll be something. The people of Kanata better express their opposition to Stage 3 now before it's too late.

Barrhaven's extension mostly goes through parking lots and big box stores, plus they already have significant TOD, so it should be an easier sell.

We've already see opposition in Orleans with the St-Joseph proposal and can expect more, but at least Trim, Place d'Orleans itself should be easier to develop. And I don't imagine too much opposition around Jeanne d'Arc or Orleans Boulevard for proposals similar to the Maple Grove project.
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Intensification seems sensible, on the face of it. Increasing density in existing areas means less suburban expansion. While expanding the suburbs is necessary to accommodate growth, even under the city’s ambitious intensification plan, it’s certainly not a good in itself.
Conveniently neglects that intensification will reduce higher cost associated with otherwise low density, highly sprawled, high quality city services. I think everyone can agree lower net tax growth is a good in itself, which is an outcome of intensification.


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[B]Fight over Kanata apartment development is a glimpse into the future

The push for intensification creates an interesting clash of rights. Property owners have the right to develop their property up to the limits of what the city allows. The public consultation that accompanies development proposals implies that owners of existing homes have a stake in the future of their neighbourhoods.
It implies that the City must transparently address all concerns, and the matter to which they are relevant depends on the rules as defined and the citizen holding them accountable. Neat and simple, we have given the City full rights to decide, barring successful legal challenges or political firestorms.
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Limits on housing in Ottawa can't just be left to homeowners
Planners aren’t cramming intensification down our throats because they’re evil commies. They're doing so to grow the city without utterly destroying our common habitat.

Brigitte Pellerin
Publishing date: Jan 24, 2021 • 4 hours ago • 3 minute read




There’s a line in Randall Denley’s recent column on the fuss about that modest development proposal in Kanata that really got my attention:

“Selling intensification in existing neighbourhoods is a tough challenge. Few people buy a home, then say, ‘Boy, I hope this street really changes in the future.’ They are unlikely to be swayed by the argument that apartment buildings should be constructed next to their house to protect some unspecified piece of rural land somewhere else.”

True. But why do we think it’s OK for housing to be such a heartless capitalist venture?

Two-thirds of Canadians are homeowners. It may sound like a lot but when you compare with other countries we’re nowhere near the top. Unsurprisingly, the higher the income, the more likely a person is to own a home. The Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation has details in beautifully coloured graphics, if you’re curious. For most homeowners, their house is by far the biggest asset they’ll ever own. So naturally they do everything in their power to protect that investment.

It’s understandable, but it has nasty side effects, the most important being that we inadvertently become selfish and short-sighted. We don’t want change, intensification, bus routes, homeless shelters or safe injection sites anywhere near our backyard. From an individual perspective, it makes sense. But when everyone reacts the same way, what does that do to our ability to offer decent housing and services to those of us who cannot or do not wish to become owners of a single-family home?

To paraphrase Denley, few people buy a house and think: Finally I’ll be able to make life harder for the young, the poor and anyone in a situation of vulnerability. But that’s what happens anyway. And of course as our appetite for more and better housing grows, we destroy thousands of acres of forest, swamp and farmland which were homes to a variety of wildlife that, absent a habitat, die.

And we haven’t talked about traffic yet.

Few homeowners think of themselves as privileged capitalists, but the laws certainly treat them as such, for instance by not taxing the profit they make selling their house.

Housing is a basic need we all have. We should all be free to choose what kind of housing we want and can afford. But that does not give anyone the right to make other people, or the environment, pay for their preferences.

That’s when planning comes in. It’s the only tool we have to protect that which cannot be commodified and used as an investment vehicle. Like public health, human happiness, compassion and protection for the natural environment we all share.

Ottawa’s new Official Plan predicts Ottawa’s population will keep growing. Someone needs to think carefully about how that growth should be managed so nobody pays an unfair price for it. As Denley implies, most existing homeowners don’t particularly want to make a sacrifice in order to protect some bits of green they don’t own, but if we’re all able to gain financial benefits at the expense of nature, we won’t have much nature left in pretty short order.

Hence, recent talk of a “gold belt” around existing boundaries, because evidently the previous attempt at limiting sprawl failed miserably. I don’t have much hope that gold will do it and would recommend immediately cranking up to Diamond or Platinum Belt to increase the odds that some of nature will survive unbuilt.

City planners aren’t cramming intensification down our throats because they’re evil commies. They do so because it’s the only way to allow Ottawa to grow to its full potential without destroying our common habitat or creating massively unfair housing conditions for those of us who cannot or prefer not to become homeowners. In society, property rights have their limits and those cannot simply be left to owners to enforce.

Brigitte Pellerin is an Ottawa writer.

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/peller...n-ottawa-cant-just-be-left-to-homeowners
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Well said. Many homeowners can't see beyond the end of their own nose and don't realize that their home at some point in time created a change for people nearby at the time or removed wooded areas or farmland from the supply.
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Kanata Maple Grove proposal passes, with Hubley, Kavanagh and Meehan voting no.

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529 residential units and retail space proposed for 6171 Hazeldean Road

by Lesley McKay, Stittsville Central Media
October 25, 2020


The City has received a Zoning Bylaw Amendment and Plan of Subdivision Proposal application from the Zayoun Group Inc. for 6171 Hazeldean Road – located just south of the Potter’s Key neighbourhood, east of Carp Road and on the north side of Hazeldean Road.

The mixed-use subdivision will be comprised of 529 residential units and one retail commercial space. The applicant is proposing a mixed-use subdivision comprised of 20 single-detached dwellings, 154 townhouse dwellings, 180 condominium units in five low-rise apartment buildings, and 175 units in a nine-storey mixed-use building.

The development will be served by a network of internal streets, which will be dedicated to the City of Ottawa as public rights-of-way. The unopened road allowance along the northern edge of the property, representing the current terminus of Samantha Eastop Avenue, will be extended through the property to Hazeldean Road. The extension will serve as a collector road to distribute traffic through the proposed subdivision, and may also provide direct access between Hazeldean Road and the Potters Key community to the north. The remaining proposed roads will be designed to a local street cross-section, in accordance with City of Ottawa standards.



The subdivision proposes to create two large blocks along Hazeldean Road, which will accommodate higher density development. The eastern block is proposed to accommodate five residential apartment buildings, each with underground parking. The western block is proposed to be developed with a 9-storey mixed-use building, containing 175 residential apartment dwellings and a retail commercial unit. All vehicular circulation within these blocks will be by means of private roads and driveways. The balance of the residential uses in the subdivision will consist of detached dwellings and townhouses. The detached dwellings will be located in the northwestern portion of the development, with the balance of the subdivision developed with two-storey townhouses. A 0.74-hectare park block is proposed for the centre of the development.



The site is currently zoned Arterial Mainstreet Subzone 9 (AM9). The zoning permits a broad range of uses including retail, service commercial, office, residential and institutional uses. The maximum building height is 15 metres.

The Zoning By-law Amendment application submitted proposes to rezone the property from DR Zone to the following zones:

Send your comments or register for future updates by November 25, 2020 to City Planner Stream Shen at [email protected]. Include the development application numbers D02-02-20-0097 and D07-16-20-0026 in the subject line.

Councillor Glen Gower has indicated that a virtual zoom meeting about this proposed development will take place in the coming weeks.

https://stittsvillecentral.ca/529-reside...-space-proposed-for-6171-hazeldean-road/
6171 Hazeldean Road was purchased by 11654128 Canada Inc. (Heafey Group) from Kavanaugh Family Investments Ltd. for $9,000,000 or $404,676 per acre. It is zoned Arterial Mainstreet and is to be developed with a residential project.

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École Secondaire Mont-Bleu was heavily damaged during the 2017 tornado due to a fire. The Government has now started the renos and released renderings of what it will look like once complete.


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Construction has resumed on the hotel (Hampton Inn?) across from the Hilton Lac Leamy. They've added 3 floors in about 2 weeks

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I need to hit up the construction on Lucerne now that the weather is getting nice.

3 cranes on rue Principale in Aylmer too. Methinks a walk is in order tomorrow.
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Construction has resumed on the hotel (Hampton Inn?) across from the Hilton Lac Leamy. They've added 3 floors in about 2 weeks

It's going up fast like that hotel near the Complexe sportif. All prefab I think.
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I need to hit up the construction on Lucerne now that the weather is getting nice.

3 cranes on rue Principale in Aylmer too. Methinks a walk is in order tomorrow.
The LibAylmer across from Galeries d'Aylmer is really taking form. I'll try to grab pictures next time I'm there
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Funding announcement for improvements to the Kanata Recreation Centre and Walter Baker Park.

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It's going up fast like that hotel near the Complexe sportif. All prefab I think.
What hotel near the Complexe sportif?
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I think he meant the Holiday Inn near Centre Slush Puppie, which was built a few years ago. All prefab, and that went up very quick.
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I think he meant the Holiday Inn near Centre Slush Puppie, which was built a few years ago. All prefab, and that went up very quick.
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