Vancouver Civic Election 2018

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Most of the NPA's Council members might be semi-progressive, but much of the voting base and party seems to be reactionary... that said, it's definitely a dumb idea to shift further right, where all they're doing is marginalizing themselves.

So are we looking at a centre-right splinter faction, or a bunch of independents? And would the current councilors survive, or get kicked out by an electorate that just ticks any box with "NPA" on it?

No idea. NPA would have owned council and the Mayor's seat if the board didn't pitch a big fit about Hector Bremner and forced him to form another party that bled some support away.

[Feathered Friend]

https://twitter.com/fabulavancouver/status/1379084308078419971?s=20

Since we're still over a year out from the next election it didn't seem worth starting a new thread for this.

[scryer]

Hmm... it will be interesting to see what his campaign promises.

CBC - Vancouver Park Board votes in favour of allowing overnight camping in parks

Commissioner John Coupar, who voted against the amended bylaw, said he believes this opens the door to more overnight camping in parks, something he says residents are concerned about.

"We want to be compassionate … but there comes a point where we have to say, we want to look after making sure families and kids are safe in our parks. And allowing overnight camping in parks, I just can't support it," he said.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://twitter.com/fabulavancouver/status/1379084308078419971?s=20

Since we're still over a year out from the next election it didn't seem worth starting a new thread for this.

I can't help but feel this is going to backfire on the NPA. Apparently they didn't even consult the NPA councillors (all women) about it. I always had the impression Sarah Kirby-Yung might make a run at it.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Coupar is also militantly pro-viewcone. Make of that what you will.

Originally Posted by whatnext

I can't help but feel this is going to backfire on the NPA. Apparently they didn't even consult the NPA councillors (all women) about it. I always had the impression Sarah Kirby-Yung might make a run at it.

Given the new crop of board members, the lack of feedback is a feature, not a bug. Though I doubt it makes a difference to the people who just mark "NPA" no matter who's on the ballot.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://twitter.com/fabulavancouver/status/1379084308078419971?s=20

Since we're still over a year out from the next election it didn't seem worth starting a new thread for this.

Lol.

I rather eat shit than vote for someone who sits on the Park Board for Mayor.

a Park Board tenure is a disqualifying feature. Unless part of his platform is to abolish the park board.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by rofina

Lol.

I rather eat shit than vote for someone who sits on the Park Board for Mayor.

a Park Board tenure is a disqualifying feature. Unless part of his platform is to abolish the park board.

That's interesting he's been pretty vocal about the safety issues and cleaning up the city, things you support, no?

[rofina]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

That's interesting he's been pretty vocal about the safety issues and cleaning up the city, things you support, no?

Yah. Vocal.

While being acting commissioner of the board that's enabled a large part of this debacle over the last 3ish years.

A board that shouldn't exist to begin with.

But now he has unique ability and understanding to help Vancouver. You know what would help Vancouver? The tax savings from abolishing the Park Board and its salaries.
Let council handle it, like councils do everywhere else.

No thanks. Next please.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by rofina

Yah. Vocal.

While being acting commissioner of the board that's enabled a large part of this debacle over the last 3ish years.

A board that shouldn't exist to begin with.

But now he has unique ability and understanding to help Vancouver. You know what would help Vancouver? The tax savings from abolishing the Park Board and its salaries.
Let council handle it, like councils do everywhere else.

No thanks. Next please.

The parks board salaries are only about $20K fyi. They're basically expected to be part-timers.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

The parks board salaries are only about $20K fyi. They're basically expected to be part-timers.

Fair enough.

However, my point stands. This an unnecessary added level of bureaucracy with very minimal gain for the tax payer.

At least Coupar was on the right side of the sleeping in parks vote, but that's really comparing things to the lowest common denominator.

I mean, doing your job, is part of your job. Hard to get too excited about that.

I'm being a little extra; Ill give him time to flesh out ideas. But the next Mayor and council needs to be partisan.

Yes - partisan. We need a council and Mayor to take this city in a direction. Any direction, even a direction I don't want to see it go, I don't need to be pleased long as the majority of people are.

The inability to make changes around here while things continue go to waste is devastating.

[Feathered Friend]

Sarah Kirby-Yung 楊瑞蘭 @sarahkirby_yung

Statement from myself and Councillors @LisaDominato and @CllrHardwick.
8:55 PM · Apr 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/sarahkirby_yung/status/1379643853867651081?s=20

Notably absent from this statement is Councillor De Genova, who earlier had "liked" a tweet from former Councillor Elizabeth Ball endorsing the board's selection.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://twitter.com/sarahkirby_yung/status/1379643853867651081?s=20

Notably absent from this statement is Councillor De Genova, who earlier had "liked" a tweet from former Councillor Elizabeth Ball endorsing the board's selection.

It's really early in the election cycle for all this to be happening. One NPA Councillor, Rebecca Bligh, already sits as an independent. In one scenario you could see these three, or at least one or two of them, joining her, and all of them supporting Ken Sim as a mayoral candidate.

Of course the current mayor doesn't have a party affiliation either. If it's confusing now in terms of who is going to support what on Council, it could get even more fragmented and unpredictable. Of course, some people endorse the idea of having no parties or groups at a municipal level, but that tends to create a really unpredictable and disjointed set of decisions. There's something to be said for all the bickering to take place in caucus, and Council meetings reaching decisions within reasonable time, and usually in a predictable way.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by rofina

Fair enough.

However, my point stands. This an unnecessary added level of bureaucracy with very minimal gain for the tax payer.

At least Coupar was on the right side of the sleeping in parks vote, but that's really comparing things to the lowest common denominator.

I mean, doing your job, is part of your job. Hard to get too excited about that.

I'm being a little extra; Ill give him time to flesh out ideas. But the next Mayor and council needs to be partisan.

Yes - partisan. We need a council and Mayor to take this city in a direction. Any direction, even a direction I don't want to see it go, I don't need to be pleased long as the majority of people are.

The inability to make changes around here while things continue go to waste is devastating.

Coupar is part of a 2 person minority on Parks Board. I'm not sure what you're expecting him to do. I don't support him, or the concept of a PB, but it just comes off as a weird view.

This is the guy, should he become Mayor, that shares your views, and would be much more able to act on them from the Mayor's chair.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by rofina

Fair enough.

However, my point stands. This an unnecessary added level of bureaucracy with very minimal gain for the tax payer.

At least Coupar was on the right side of the sleeping in parks vote, but that's really comparing things to the lowest common denominator.

I mean, doing your job, is part of your job. Hard to get too excited about that.

I'm being a little extra; Ill give him time to flesh out ideas. But the next Mayor and council needs to be partisan.

Yes - partisan. We need a council and Mayor to take this city in a direction. Any direction, even a direction I don't want to see it go, I don't need to be pleased long as the majority of people are.

The inability to make changes around here while things continue go to waste is devastating.

Fiascos like Strathcona are a result of the Green-COPE majority on the Parks Board.

[Feathered Friend]

Opinion: The 2022 Vancouver civic election could be the ugliest ever
We're already seeing "the first wave of knives in what is sure to be the bloodiest civic election in Vancouver history (metaphorically speaking)"
about an hour ago By: George Affleck

But an open process could have also divided the already uneven caucus and led to more bad press. A recent release by three of the four members of the NPA Council caucus denouncing the decision to appoint Coupar proves that point, and how splintered the caucus is, and how it is likely Coupar and board knew that ever getting them all on the “Coupar for Mayor” team would be unlikely. Melissa De Genova’s name was not one of the four to sign the release so it appears she already joined the Coupar mayoral train.

With their decision, Coupar and the board have both ostracized and outed his caucus naysayers, which makes it easier not to have them as part of the NPA team in 2022, and made it clear to failed candidates like Ken Sim that this time the NPA is not messing around. Coupar’s sending a message that he should be the only centre-right candidate to focus on in order to beat the current leftist mayor, Kennedy Stewart.

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/opini...ection-could-be-the-ugliest-ever-3612441

A few surprises here, especially since there were plenty of rumours that Affleck was gunning for the mayor's office himself.

Also the "you're either with us or you're against us" tone is striking. Then again, it's not a secret that Councilors Kirby-Yung and Hardwick were rumoured to be bidding for the mayor's job themselves.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/opini...ection-could-be-the-ugliest-ever-3612441

A few surprises here, especially since there were plenty of rumours that Affleck was gunning for the mayor's office himself.

Also the "you're either with us or you're against us" tone is striking. Then again, it's not a secret that Councilors Kirby-Yung and Hardwick were rumoured to be bidding for the mayor's job themselves.

If Affleck was gunning for it, he seems muted in his criticism. Maybe because he remembers that the NPA annointed mayoral candidates Kirk LaPointe in 2014 and Suzanne Anton in 2011 without going to a vote (which I'd forgotten).

[rofina]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Coupar is part of a 2 person minority on Parks Board. I'm not sure what you're expecting him to do. I don't support him, or the concept of a PB, but it just comes off as a weird view.

This is the guy, should he become Mayor, that shares your views, and would be much more able to act on them from the Mayor's chair.

I for sure overreacted with my initial comment. I despise the park board and the fact it exists and I let that get the best of me.

Ill give Coupar a chance, but definitely a skeptical one.

[GenWhy?]

I think Sims is still working on his team / support. Haven't heard much since last summer. Development folks love the NPA, but they seems too preservationist to be supportive by developers.

[Feathered Friend]

New Vancouver party called A Better City to launch Wednesday, as Liberal strategist Mark Marissen plans run for mayor

Author of the article:Tiffany Crawford
Publishing date:Apr 14, 2021 • 4 hours ago • 3 minute read

Ken Sim, a businessman and former mayoral candidate for the Non-Partisan Association, says he would like to lead the party.

The news comes at the same time as a longtime Liberal public affairs strategist, Mark Marissen, announced he is going to run for the mayor of Vancouver.

Marissen’s announcement is not connected to the new party.

https://vancouversun.com/news/liberal-st...n-planning-to-run-for-mayor-of-vancouver

I still say it's too early to start a 2022 thread, but conditions on the ground may change that opinion in the next few weeks, as there are rumours that Councillor Carr, and former Councillor Reimer are also considering bids.

[GenWhy?]

If Carr were elected city staff would be studying everything forever so she wouldn't have to offend anyone ever.