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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 7:37 PM
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There is a north station entrance to Algonquin Station just on the west side of the ACCE building. No pedestrian bridge required but you do have to go outside briefly.

That said, the Algonquin Station bus loop and bus integration is garbage compared to the simplicity of Arbutus Station.
This. ACCE was clearly designed to accommodate a bridge out the west side of the building, in line with the bridge over Woodroffe and attached to the public (not access controlled) part of the building. Instead, the bus terminal is a hike south, and the bridge connects to the building where there are currently a bunch of offices, requiring renovation. That station makes no sense.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 7:55 PM
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This. ACCE was clearly designed to accommodate a bridge out the west side of the building, in line with the bridge over Woodroffe and attached to the public (not access controlled) part of the building. Instead, the bus terminal is a hike south, and the bridge connects to the building where there are currently a bunch of offices, requiring renovation. That station makes no sense.
I agree. The bridge west to the north station entrance would better distribute the passenger load by separating Algonquin students from Barrhaven transfers. Not to mention the more direct route for Algonquin students.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 7:42 AM
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I'm not entirely sure why they chose that configuration, but maybe it's because the north entrance would cause too big of an inconvenience for those going to the bus terminal from the ACCE? It would be a longer walk outside to reach the south entrance and, to avoid the elements, people would have to descend to the train platform at the north end, walk all the way down the platform to the south end, and then ascend again to reach the bus terminal. Can't really think of any other reason for it.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 12:48 PM
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I'm not entirely sure why they chose that configuration, but maybe it's because the north entrance would cause too big of an inconvenience for those going to the bus terminal from the ACCE? It would be a longer walk outside to reach the south entrance and, to avoid the elements, people would have to descend to the train platform at the north end, walk all the way down the platform to the south end, and then ascend again to reach the bus terminal. Can't really think of any other reason for it.
That's plausible. If that's the case, it's too bad they couldn't do both.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 9:10 PM
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I'm not entirely sure why they chose that configuration, but maybe it's because the north entrance would cause too big of an inconvenience for those going to the bus terminal from the ACCE? It would be a longer walk outside to reach the south entrance and, to avoid the elements, people would have to descend to the train platform at the north end, walk all the way down the platform to the south end, and then ascend again to reach the bus terminal. Can't really think of any other reason for it.
This makes some sense in the short-term, but long-term the train will be extended, and all the customers will have to walk down the south end to access the station, or go outside.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2021, 12:54 AM
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This makes some sense in the short-term, but long-term the train will be extended, and all the customers will have to walk down the south end to access the station, or go outside.
True. Not sure if other bus routes and the Baseline BRT would keep the bus terminal busy enough to justify that configuration post-extension. It's also possible they didn't want to operate under the assumption that the extension would be funded and built anytime soon.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2021, 1:40 PM
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New Lincoln Fields renderings. Well, August 2020. I stumbled across them by accident on Theresa Kavanaugh's website yesterday evening when looking for something else related to the station. Again, this shows how the City does a terrible job at informing citizens of recent changes and providing information on the project. Just another example after comparing ourselves to Vancouver.

Kavanaugh is does some excellent work informing her constituents on Stage 2.

The August 2020 renderings are similar to the previous renderings, only with more detail and the new platform configuration.

August 2020 east entrance plaza.

https://otrain.railfans.ca/transfer-station/lincoln-fields

February 2019 east entrance plaza.

https://www.westsideaction.ca/phase-2-western-stations/

August 2020 platform level.

https://otrain.railfans.ca/transfer-station/lincoln-fields

Summer 2019 platform level.


August 2020 east entrance interior.

https://otrain.railfans.ca/transfer-station/lincoln-fields

August 2020 west entrance plaza.

https://otrain.railfans.ca/transfer-station/lincoln-fields
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O-Train Fans submitted a list of questions to the Stage 2 team a few weeks ago. The responses have been received.

Here is the list of questions:
  1. When do we expect the Stadler FLIRT trains to be tested and seen on the Line?
  2. What is the maximum speed anticipated to be on Line 2, and where you expect this to occur?
  3. Are there any renders of the interior of the FLIRT trains at this time or is the design still being finalized?
  4. Line 2 and 4 will have a new signalling system by Siemens, do you know the model that is being used? Will the existing Indusi system be completely removed?
  5. Montreal Station on the Eastern Extension has the new highway overpasses open and in place. Will the current spacing between the Eastbound and Westbound overpasses be maintained after Stage 2 opens or will the alignment be narrowed? Do we expect an additional lane on the highway in the interior?
  6. Do the longer term plans for Bayview Station include vertical circulation to the new Line 2 eastern platform?
  7. Will the pedestrian plaza as shown in the early renders at Corso Italia still exist as previously depicted?
  8. In regards to Pinecrest Station, the current Transitway is level with the highway until it dips a bit for Bayshore. Will the train guideway be trenched after Pinecrest?
  9. At Carleton Station, is station access from the north or south underpass being protected for (similar to how there is a station entrance in the underpass at uOttawa)? In addition, is there any connectivity being designed or implemented between the station and the Carleton University tunnel system? If so, how is it envisioned, and where would it be?
  10. Is a MUP between the Rideau River and Mooney's Bay bundled into the project
  11. Is there a rough timeline that can be shared that highlights major work or milestones being started or completed?
  12. Is there any update on the Stage 2 Confederation Line vehicles?
  13. Is there any data on the percentage of people within reasonable walking distance of an O-Train Station, and the percentage of jobs within reasonable walking distance? (Reasonable Walking Distance as approximately 800m).
  14. Would you have an update on when we may see LRV units 1106, 1107, 1126, 1136 and 1141 and above in service or testing?

As it relates to the west extension, the trains will run in a trench from the Connaught tunnel to just past Pinecrest station.

Visit O-Train Fans for the full Stage 2 team responses.
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Work on the Byron Linear Park tunnel continues! After a year of relocating utilities and then carefully excavating, the #Stage2LRT crews have dug almost 10 metres down – the full depth of the future New Orchard station



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Old Posted Mar 16, 2021, 1:38 PM
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Another shot of the Byron tunnel construction.


https://twitter.com/OttawaCitizen/status/1371773302654570499
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2021, 1:42 PM
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Will they bury the hydro lines along the Byron strip while they're at it?


https://kitchissippi.com/2019/04/15/cleary-station/
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2021, 2:01 PM
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Moving Cleary (or now Sherbourne) from underground on the north end of Richmond to the Byron Strip only saved $10 million. I didn't think the savings were so little considering the bid came in at nearly 600 million over the estimate.

http://kitchissippiward.ca/content/cleary-station-move
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2021, 7:14 PM
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Will they bury the hydro lines along the Byron strip while they're at it?
That would make sense, but when does the city ever do things that make sense?
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2021, 8:25 PM
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O-Train West Extension: Construction Activities and Community Impacts

Ward 15 – Tunney’s Pasture to Sherbourne Stations

90-Day Lookahead - March to June 2021

The O-Train West Extension is one of the three major extensions to Ottawa’s Stage 2 O-Train Light Rail Transit (LRT) Project. The extension will add over 15 km of new rail and 11 new stations between Tunney’s Pasture to Moodie Drive and to Algonquin Station. The O-Train West Extension will eliminate approximately 450,000 annual bus trips from the Sir John A. MacDonald (SJAM) Parkway. It also comprises a maintenance and storage facility, 10 new bridges, 14 rehabilitated bridges and 2 tunnels.

Important progress will be made this year on this exciting project. Construction crews and equipment are continuing work to complete drainage, utilities relocation, structural and road works, and tunnel construction in the areas surrounding the future sites of Westboro, Kìchì Sìbì and Sherbourne stations.

This notice provides an overview of construction activities that will take place in Ward 15 as well as the expected community impacts including traffic, pedestrian and cyclist detours, increased noise and vibrations from construction crews, vehicles, and equipment as well as intermittent weekend and overnight work.

MAJOR WORKS

Tunney’s Pasture Station area

Construction work continues on the deck of the Goldenrod Bridge at Tunney’s Pasture, which will be followed by the installation of parapets and railings. The bridge is expected to be completed in July 2021. Once completed, the bridge will remain open for pedestrians, cyclists, and bus only traffic during construction.



Westboro Station area

At Churchill Avenue North at the SJAM Parkway, road and pedestrian detours will be maintained for the continued construction of the Churchill pedestrian underpass which is expected to be completed in the Spring 2022.



Kìchì Sìbì Station area

The Roosevelt Pedestrian Bridge, connecting Workman and Roosevelt Avenues will be demolished in May. Pedestrian detours, east to Churchill Avenue and west to the SJAM parkway, will be maintained once the bridge is removed. Work to install these detours as well as utilities relocation will begin in March.

At Kitchissippi Lookout, the following work will be taking place until June: utilities relocation at Atlantis Avenue, drainage work, widening of the SJAM Parkway westbound lane and intersection roadwork at the median turning lanes. Motorists can expect temporary lane closures.

Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway (SJAM)

Installation of excavation support is ongoing for the SJAM Parkway tunnel between Cleary Avenue and Rochester Park. The tunnel will eventually travel between Kìchì Sìbì and Lincoln Fields stations travelling underneath the SJAM and Byron Linear Park. The slurry plant near 655 Richmond Road is producing slurry required for the construction of slurry walls, which will support tunnel excavation. Several trucks per day will bring materials to service the slurry plant, accessing the site from the SJAM Parkway. The excavated material from the slurry walls will be hauled to slurry pits at Rochester Field, and then loaded out and transported to an approved landfill site. The slurry plant will remain operational into 2022.



COMMUNITY IMPACTS

Typically, most work is scheduled to occur from 7:00 am to 6:00 pm, Monday to Friday. There will be requirements for overnight work across the entire corridor, and some intermittent weekend work.

Noise and vibration from trucks and heavy equipment is expected. In addition, noise and vibration levels resulting from this work are monitored and reported to the City to ensure they are within limits established for the Project.

Site lighting for overnight work will be required.

Motorists should adhere to detours, traffic control signage, posted speed limits, and use extra caution as traffic patterns change. Motorists should use caution and allow for added travel time when moving through active construction corridors.

Pedestrians and cyclists should use extra caution when localized detours are in place. The safety of workers and the public is paramount. Construction zone signage and fencing must be respected at all times.

Your patience during construction is an integral part of the success of the project.

CONTACT US

This notice provides an overview of activities expected to occur until June 2021. Specific timing of activities, including road closures or detours, overnight activities or other major works, will be communicated in advance via the Stage 2 project e-newsletter.

For other accommodations, or any questions, please contact:

Jessica Maxwell
Stakeholder Relations, Rail Construction Program
City of Ottawa
[email protected]
www.ottawa.ca/stage2
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Looks like the level of activity has picked up at Moodie. They will soon close the WB 417 on-ramp until November 30.
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Lincoln Fields Station



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This will be an absolutely massive station. It's too bad we could not have maintained the Stage 1 elaborate station structure for Lincoln Fields at the very least.
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This will be an absolutely massive station. It's too bad we could not have maintained the Stage 1 elaborate station structure for Lincoln Fields at the very least.
One really has to wonder if they really will have as many buses serve the station as they are planning for. I expect route 11's detour to Lincoln Fields will no longer be necessary because of New Orchard station, the need for Route 57 to extend beyond Bayshore will be eliminated, and route 51 might even be re-routed along Richmond Rd instead of Carling.
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One really has to wonder if they really will have as many buses serve the station as they are planning for. I expect route 11's detour to Lincoln Fields will no longer be necessary because of New Orchard station, the need for Route 57 to extend beyond Bayshore will be eliminated, and route 51 might even be re-routed along Richmond Rd instead of Carling.
I hope that with the addition of bus lanes, Carling's service will increase. The more connections with the rail network at Dow's Lake, LF and Bayshore, the better.

Of those routes, I could see route 11 skip over LF, but maybe not the others (though I'm less familiar with them).
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