[Saint John] Uptown Thread

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by nwalbert

It is truly remarkable the amount of investment and growth happening uptown SJ right now. I am not sure we have ever seen anything like this in NB before.

A few years from now we may not recognize many parts of the Peninsula.

Can anyone remind me how bad the contamination is at the Lantic Sugar Refinery site or what the ownership situation is? If growth continues like this development will either have to push towards that direction or north through Waterloo Village, Crown, or Main. I know there's still plenty of infill sites remaining in the Uptown (looking at you, block situated between Union, Coburg, Dorchester, and Carleton).

[cdnguys]

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[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by JHikka

Can anyone remind me how bad the contamination is at the Lantic Sugar Refinery site or what the ownership situation is? If growth continues like this development will either have to push towards that direction or north through Waterloo Village, Crown, or Main. I know there's still plenty of infill sites remaining in the Uptown (looking at you, block situated between Union, Coburg, Dorchester, and Carleton).

It would require a 1 m thick slab on grade only concrete pad and not suited for residential. Warehousing type property ok. No basement or foundation permitted. Beneath surface soil has hydrocarbons attached to soil and heavy metals. As for who owns it, I believe in 2008 Irving Oil bought it for $10 M, then swapped it with port in exchange for Long Wharf property.

[ColSJ]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

it’s official - 300 Sydney St (TCB) is location of new large scale development - coming before PAC and council in April. Source - Amy Poffenroth of city (presentation to growth committee today). Also announced, the city is working with developers on 7 LARGE scale projects in the preliminary stage, not including already planned announced/unannounced projects. Appears city is on cusp of a boom.

How did you get a hold of this information?

[cdnguys]

https://youtu.be/NVh67Rp1Aik

Originally Posted by ColSJ

Go to 57:20 for update from Amy

How did you get a hold of this information?

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

It would require a 1 m thick slab on grade only concrete pad and not suited for residential. Warehousing type property ok. No basement or foundation permitted. Beneath surface soil has hydrocarbons attached to soil and heavy metals. As for who owns it, I believe in 2008 Irving Oil bought it for $10 M, then swapped it with port in exchange for Long Wharf property.

Thanks. So development will naturally have to push north of Union, then.

[cdnguys]

7th floor steel starting to be installed on The Wentworth. Windows are mostly installed on the front part of The Telegraph

[ColSJ]

Telegraph Journal is reporting the The Wellington will break ground Monday.

[cdnguys]

public hearing April 19th to change zoning at 300 Sydney St to RH - which is high-rise residential

[cdnguys]

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[homebody]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

public hearing April 19th to change zoning at 300 Sydney St to RH - which is high-rise residential

This is good news! I thought due to soil contamination that it was not possible to put anything more than a concrete slab down there.

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by homebody

This is good news! I thought due to soil contamination that it was not possible to put anything more than a concrete slab down there.

Another poster mentioned this was just old army grounds. I don’t see any record either of industry on that lot. If rumour is true it’s a 180 units, it will either have to be a 14 - 16 story building, or two 6 - 8 story buildings

[cdnguys]

The Wentworth starting to poke out - another story to go

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[cdnguys]

Not sure what to think of The Atlantic now. The metal siding that’s being installed looks meh IMO and nothing like the rendering at all. It’s roofing material being installed by the developer’s metal roofing company.

[darkharbour]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Not sure what to think of The Atlantic now. The metal siding that’s being installed looks meh IMO and nothing like the rendering at all. It’s roofing material being installed by the developers metal roofing company.

Looked at this on Wednesday and the metal cladding so far is really bad, looks like a storage shed. Hopefully the upper cladding or the facade clad is much higher quality.

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by darkharbour

Looked at this on Wednesday and the metal cladding so far is really bad, looks like a storage shed. Hopefully the upper cladding or the facade clad is much higher quality.

Haven’t we learned our lesson from Agar place? Hopefully it somehow pulls together in the end but I cringe when I see it. Maybe he wants the same style as Victor Train & Sons building nearby. I know if I reserved a unit I wouldn’t be happy. Looks like he is also forgoing the architectural details on top too.

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It was supposed to look like this

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[NewIreland]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Haven’t we learned our lesson from Agar place? Hopefully it somehow pulls together in the end but I cringe when I see it. Maybe he wants the same style as Victor Train & Sons building nearby. I know if I reserved a unit I wouldn’t be happy. Looks like he is also forgoing the architectural details on top too.

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It was supposed to look like this

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That looks horrible! The ole bait and switch.

[homebody]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Another poster mentioned this was just old army grounds. I don’t see any record either of industry on that lot. If rumour is true it’s a 180 units, it will either have to be a 14 - 16 story building, or two 6 - 8 story buildings

Does a 6-8 story building fall into RH classification? Just wondering.

[adamuptownsj]

That's not even close to what the PAC signed off on. Wtf

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by adamuptownsj

That's not even close to what the PAC signed off on. Wtf

The mayor should be contacted