Atlanta Project Thread IV - Page 280

DNR · #**5581** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 2:18 PM**

Very Nice! I would welcome that any day!

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**5582** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 2:19 PM**

ATL3k had shared it before and also the one above. I would like to know how accurate FAR-wise this is, because it looks much larger than what I've come to expect the FAR would allow.

edit: On closer inspection, it looks like the reason it works is because it is consuming not just the FDA but also the little yellow office building to the right of it. In the bottom render you can see the parking deck treatment on that property.

NYbyWAYofGA · #**5583** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 2:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Both proposed towers in the rendering

What is it about development in Atlanta and those dead spaces and blank walls that turn their backs to streets? It's like the developers focus all of the attention and details on one side of the buildings and the opposite side is just neglected and active uses are not even considered many times. It's frustrating to see.

alco89 · #**5584** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 3:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYbyWAYofGA

What is it about development in Atlanta and those dead spaces and blank walls that turn their backs to streets? It's like the developers focus all of the attention and details on one side of the buildings and the opposite side is just neglected and active uses are not even considered many times. It's frustrating to see.

Yea it seems that way in all the newer Sunbelt cities unfortunately.

But here, which part are you referring to? The Beltline facing building's podium already exists today with active uses/leasable space.

arctk2014 · #**5585** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 3:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

ATL3k had shared it before and also the one above. I would like to know how accurate FAR-wise this is, because it looks much larger than what I've come to expect the FAR would allow.

edit: On closer inspection, it looks like the reason it works is because it is consuming not just the FDA but also the little yellow office building to the right of it. In the bottom render you can see the parking deck treatment on that property.

They could also be looking to buy the air rights/FAR from several nearby properties (Margaret Mitchell House and the Academy of Medicine).

Libertarian · #**5586** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 3:55 PM**

How many times can they sell Margaret Mitchell House air rights?

arctk2014 · #**5587** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 4:16 PM**

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How many times can they sell Margaret Mitchell House air rights?

Until they sell off all the rest of their air rights/development rights.

Trillist was proposing to use this for their Crescent Ave tower proposal back in 2020. Curbed noted even with that potential transfer they would still have 25,000SF of residential rights left to transfer.

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2020/1/27/21083421/midtown-atlanta-gone-with-wind-trillist-peachtree

NYbyWAYofGA · #**5588** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 4:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by alco89

Yea it seems that way in all the newer Sunbelt cities unfortunately.

But here, which part are you referring to? The Beltline facing building's podium already exists today with active uses/leasable space.

The side pointing towards North Ave...I think. The part that appears to be a screened deck.

tinyslam · #**5589** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 5:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYbyWAYofGA

The side pointing towards North Ave...I think. The part that appears to be a screened deck.

Yea unfortunately that is already there.

Ant131531 · #**5590** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 5:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYbyWAYofGA

The side pointing towards North Ave...I think. The part that appears to be a screened deck.

How long has it been since youve been to ATL? How do you not know that the bottom part is already there?

Martinman · #**5591** Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

ATL3k had shared it before and also the one above. I would like to know how accurate FAR-wise this is, because it looks much larger than what I've come to expect the FAR would allow.

edit: On closer inspection, it looks like the reason it works is because it is consuming not just the FDA but also the little yellow office building to the right of it. In the bottom render you can see the parking deck treatment on that property.

There are also "bonuses" for mixed uses. That's how 1125 Peachtree is able to do a 50-story proposal by applying the FAR for each different use. The FDA site is larger than 1125 Peachtree but that rendering is probably a bit exaggerated for what would be allowed.

Street Advocate · #**5592** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 12:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by tinyslam

Yea unfortunately that is already there.

I’ve never walked into the base of that deck. I’ve always wished the base would be repurposed. If it could be repurposed, seems like a nice spot in addition to the BeltLine facing space for retail that’s been empty for years.

NYbyWAYofGA · #**5593** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 12:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ant131531

How long has it been since youve been to ATL? How do you not know that the bottom part is already there?

It's been over a year too damn long. That needs to change soon, because I need to see my family.

ATLonthebrain · #**5594** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 12:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYbyWAYofGA

It's been over a year too damn long. That needs to change soon, because I need to see my family.

Hope that happens for you in the coming weeks, NY!!

ATLotb

montydawg · #**5595** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 1:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Street Advocate

I’ve never walked into the base of that deck. I’ve always wished the base would be repurposed. If it could be repurposed, seems like a nice spot in addition to the BeltLine facing space for retail that’s been empty for years.

I just walked through PCM a half hour ago (in town this week). The deck they are planning on building on looked nearly empty, despite the food hall being full of people. I also noticed they have converted some of their parking in the main building into offices. The parking on the Beltline access level was converted to offices recently, and the situation where cars crossed the pedestrian area leading to the Beltline has been eliminated

shivtim · #**5596** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 5:38 PM**

An employee at the Midtown post office (1072 West Peachtree) told me they are moving out in April. They'll relocate to the Loews building at 12th and Peachtree. Anyone have updates on what developer bought this land or any proposals?

ATLarchitect · #**5597** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by shivtim

An employee at the Midtown post office (1072 West Peachtree) told me they are moving out in April. They'll relocate to the Loews building at 12th and Peachtree. Anyone have updates on what developer bought this land or any proposals?

I forgot the details (behind paywall) but it was The Rockefeller Group who has a stake in the 1105 Selig Development. From what I recall it was near record price for land in Midtown.

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...up-pays-near-record-price-for-prime.html

3yonce · #**5598** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 5:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by shivtim

An employee at the Midtown post office (1072 West Peachtree) told me they are moving out in April. They'll relocate to the Loews building at 12th and Peachtree. Anyone have updates on what developer bought this land or any proposals?

The Rockefeller Group bought it back in July. They also worked with Selig on 1105 West Peachtree.

smArTaLlone · #**5599** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 9:30 PM**

https://whatnowatlanta.com/792-bed-midtown-student-housing-tower-nears-groundbreaking/

Street Advocate · #**5600** Posted **Mar 19, 2021, 9:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by shivtim

An employee at the Midtown post office (1072 West Peachtree) told me they are moving out in April. They'll relocate to the Loews building at 12th and Peachtree. Anyone have updates on what developer bought this land or any proposals?

Would be wild if we see a proposal here, 1105 WP phase 2, Portman 10th St, and Toll Bro’s nearby go under construction around the same time.